I'm going to throw something

[HMav]

The flashing on the display indicates that the Hanna cannot fire at the selected setting with the current coil resistance, and is instead firing at battery voltage (unregulated, like a mech). the dna chips have historically been unable to reduce the output voltage below battery voltage, so it should not have been possible to actually be firing the coil at the lower power setting you had previously been vaping at.

Potentially this could be related to your vaping style. How do you vape?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

You misunderstood or you were told wrong.
When your hana flashes it is telling you it is unable to down regulate power output to the level you set it to.
It is using straight battery voltage to power the coil when it does this. similar to a mechanical.

Vaping an Atlantis at too low of a power will cause flooding/spitting/ low flavor & vapor production and coil gunking which leads to reduced wicking ability & odd/off/funky tastes and reduced head life. Using one at too high power can result in dry hits continued use without power reduction will result in a distinct burnt taste.
Dark or sweet or colored juices tend to gunk coils and clog wicking material which reduces wicking ability rapidly and head life considerably.

A .5 resistance head will reduce battery life ( between recharge cycles) compared to a higher resistance head, no way around it.

Remove Atlantis from power device, replace head, Prime the head with around 4 - 6 drops of juice, fill tank and secure base & tank together just tight enough to prevent leaks do not over tighten, install on power device, take 3 to 5 primer puffs without pressing fire button, let it sit for a couple minutes, give it a few more primer puffs. You can put you finger over the air hole blocking it to assist getting juice into head while doing the primer puffs.
Set power device to 20w press button & vape, adjust power to your liking.

If it is still doesn't work to your satisfaction, I'd suggest trying a delivery device with a higher resistance head/coil, rumor is aspire offers 1 ohm coils for the atlantis, I haven't seen any.

 

[Noraj1067]

Can you explain what "down regulating power" means ?
Also, what is too low of a voltage for the Atlantis?

You misunderstood or you were told wrong.
When your hana flashes it is telling you it is unable to down regulate power output to the level you set it to.
It is using straight battery voltage to power the coil when it does this. similar to a mechanical.

Vaping an Atlantis at too low of a power will cause flooding/spitting/ low flavor & vapor production and coil gunking which leads to reduced wicking ability & odd/off/funky tastes and reduced head life. Using one at too high power can result in dry hits continued use without power reduction will result in a distinct burnt taste.
Dark or sweet or colored juices tend to gunk coils and clog wicking material which reduces wicking ability rapidly and head life considerably.

A .5 resistance head will reduce battery life ( between recharge cycles) compared to a higher resistance head, no way around it.

Remove Atlantis from power device, replace head, Prime the head with around 4 - 6 drops of juice, fill tank and secure base & tank together just tight enough to prevent leaks do not over tighten, install on power device, take 3 to 5 primer puffs without pressing fire button, let it sit for a couple minutes, give it a few more primer puffs. You can put you finger over the air hole blocking it to assist getting juice into head while doing the primer puffs.
Set power device to 20w press button & vape, adjust power to your liking.

If it is still doesn't work to your satisfaction, I'd suggest trying a delivery device with a higher resistance head/coil, rumor is aspire offers 1 ohm coils for the atlantis, I haven't seen any.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Down regulation has been explained several times in this thread already, but I'll try again.

Some power devices do not have 'buck' circuitry which reduces battery voltage / steps down voltage from say 4.2v downwards, meaning the voltage output minimum going to the delivery device is dependent on battery charge status.
Some flash the display or an icon on the display or give some sort of visual indication some don't give any indication that the power range the user selects is outside of the power regulation capability of the chip set.
When this happens straight battery voltage +/- 4.2 ish volts is sent to the delivery device... No matter what the display reads in watts or volts.

If you're using a vv/vw device you should be using watt mode not voltage mode to make stuff simpler for you.

I wouldn't use an Atlantis at less than 3.2v / ,5 = 20.48w & 6.4a , but,,, because your power device isn't capable of down regulating power output / stepping down voltage below battery voltage you dont have the option of using less than battery voltage.
4v / .5 = 32w & 8a.
So if 30ish watts is too hot, strong or harsh for you or you're using a liquid (pg/vg ratio, nic mg, flavoring etc)that likes/needs lower power to obtain a satisfactory vape you're going to have to change something.
Keep in mind when going from a 'normal' resistance range to sub ohm (.5 ) like the Atlantis you will need to reduce nicotine level in the liquids you vape , usually by quite a bit. Like from 12mg to 6mg or less.

There are hana's with evolve dna chips, and various hana clones with at least 3 different clone dna chips.
One of the clone chips is an outstandingly poor design that eats battery life and struggles to function properly at any resistance range or power setting.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Not to hijack but this is a very common misconception. The dna30 chip along with many others do not down regulate power output below battery voltage.
The dna30 specs show a minimum output of 4v.
So no matter what the screen shows (22w) it is outputting at least battery voltage to the coil. 4v / .5 = 32w & 8a

There are literally dozens & dozens of boats loads of folks that think they are vaping at much lower wattage's than they actually are.

Atlantis/rDNA 40 - I just go by what shows on the display. I'm one of the few people who could care less about numbers. I let the people who care about that stuff argue it to death. I'm a set it 'n forget it kind of girl.

 

[NancyR]

I don't really care what watts someone is vaping at so long as they are being safe.

That being said OP, before you turned the watts up did you enjoy the vape you were getting? Was the device working? Was the tank working?

If the answers are yes, then don't worry about what others say and put your wattage to where you want it. The device in question has safety features that will stop it from firing if it needs to.

Yes, it is a good idea to learn about ohms law, watts, ohms and voltage if you are going to be using anything past a basic ego and clearo, but the best vape for you is what you like at a temp YOU like, not what everyone else is running..

 

[Ryedan]

Atlantis/rDNA 40 - I just go by what shows on the display. I'm one of the few people who could care less about numbers. I let the people who care about that stuff argue it to death. I'm a set it 'n forget it kind of girl.

The DNA40 does down regulate.

 

[Ryedan]

I'm trying to figure out how to make the best of the set up that I was sold rather than having to start from scratch.

At 25 - 30 watts you will definitely do better by opening the air flow all the way and doing lung hits. This means you inhale right into your lungs, instead of draw into your mouth and then inhale. The difference is you will get a lot more air flow through the atty and that will cool the vape, possibly getting rid of the plastic flavor and also giving you more flavor.

If you're not doing this, try it and see how it goes, you have nothing to loose. Start slow with short lung inhales and increase your drag time and speed a step at a time.

 

[ThunderDan]

You misunderstood or you were told wrong.
When your hana flashes it is telling you it is unable to down regulate power output to the level you set it to.
It is using straight battery voltage to power the coil when it does this. similar to a mechanical.

Heh, that may have been my bad, I didn't explain it well I guess. I said under 4v its just dumping battery, and not regulating a thing, or something along those lines.




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[smacksy]

Heh, that may have been my bad, I didn't explain it well I guess. I said under 4v its just dumping battery, and not regulating a thing, or something along those lines.




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That happened once to me too..lol

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[crxess]

Have you(Op) tried just vaping at a setting YOU enjoy?
That is all that really matters.

I am not vaping plastic no matter who says what about how I'm doing it.

 

[Noraj1067]

Thank you for the clarification. I apologize for asking again, but obviously I missed something. I think I'm just going to stay over 20 watts and hope that resolves the flooding and burning through coils. 17 watts was working for a while and then I ran into all my issues. Now that I'm using the Atlantis, I tried going back nautilus and it was like sucking through a straw. I've changed coils and have been running at 24 watts with success. Thank you all again for the help. Now I don't have to throw anything.

Down regulation has been explained several times in this thread already, but I'll try again.

Some power devices do not have 'buck' circuitry which reduces battery voltage / steps down voltage from say 4.2v downwards, meaning the voltage output minimum going to the delivery device is dependent on battery charge status.
Some flash the display or an icon on the display or give some sort of visual indication some don't give any indication that the power range the user selects is outside of the power regulation capability of the chip set.
When this happens straight battery voltage +/- 4.2 ish volts is sent to the delivery device... No matter what the display reads in watts or volts.

If you're using a vv/vw device you should be using watt mode not voltage mode to make stuff simpler for you.

I wouldn't use an Atlantis at less than 3.2v / ,5 = 20.48w & 6.4a , but,,, because your power device isn't capable of down regulating power output / stepping down voltage below battery voltage you dont have the option of using less than battery voltage.
4v / .5 = 32w & 8a.
So if 30ish watts is too hot, strong or harsh for you or you're using a liquid (pg/vg ratio, nic mg, flavoring etc)that likes/needs lower power to obtain a satisfactory vape you're going to have to change something.
Keep in mind when going from a 'normal' resistance range to sub ohm (.5 ) like the Atlantis you will need to reduce nicotine level in the liquids you vape , usually by quite a bit. Like from 12mg to 6mg or less.

There are hana's with evolve dna chips, and various hana clones with at least 3 different clone dna chips.
One of the clone chips is an outstandingly poor design that eats battery life and struggles to function properly at any resistance range or power setting.

 

[tj99959]

Did you ever think:
There is no law that says everyone has to like the Atlantis.

 

[Noraj1067]

Is there a better box mod with a better chip?
I vape throughout the day and then heavily(chain vape) at night. I've reduced my nic from 12 to 6 for the Atlantis but I might need to go downto 3 still. I think I'm now a lung hitter but I was a mouth to lung with the nautilus. I like sweet juice which I know causes gunk up on the coils.

The flashing on the display indicates that the Hanna cannot fire at the selected setting with the current coil resistance, and is instead firing at battery voltage (unregulated, like a mech). the DNA chips have historically been unable to reduce the output voltage below battery voltage, so it should not have been possible to actually be firing the coil at the lower power setting you had previously been vaping at.

Potentially this could be related to your vaping style. How do you vape?

 

[smacksy]

Is there a better box mod with a better chip?
I vape throughout the day and then heavily(chain vape) at night. I've reduced my nic from 12 to 6 for the Atlantis but I might need to go downto 3 still. I think I'm now a lung hitter but I was a mouth to lung with the nautilus. I like sweet juice which I know causes gunk up on the coils.

Nora I stated before that even 20w is way too low ..its only 3v..it causes flooding and bad hits because it simply does not have enough power to vape the juice completely.. Turn it up to 30w..don't puff..do a couple hard deep lung pulls without firing the button to help prime the coil..2 or 3 will do the trick..let it sit a few minutes then do a deep lung hit firing the button (don't puff)..after a couple pulls it'll wick fast and produce a good thick vape, first time every time..simple!
Even works for my little sister, and if she can do it so can you! [emoji39]
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[Spirometry]

Nora I stated before that even 20w is way too low ..its only 3v..it causes flooding and bad hits because it simply does not have enough power to vape the juice completely.. Turn it up to 30w..don't puff..do a couple hard deep lung pulls without firing the button to help prime the coil..2 or 3 will do the trick..let it sit a few minutes then do a deep hit firing the button..after a couple pulls it'll wick fast and produce a good thick vape, first time every time..simple!
Even works for my little sister, and if she can do it so can you! [emoji39]
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How do you get 20w with a 0.5 coil on a DNA-30?

 

[smacksy]

How do you get 20w with a 0.5 coil on a DNA-30?

I don't think you can..that's my point of turning it up to 30w..about 4.1v on the .5 ohm coil...mine vapes fantastic at 35w on my 150w IPV3.. these .5 ohm coils really need higher wattages ..its a sub ohm tank..they really shine at 30-35w..
Can lead a horse to water but certainly can't make'um drink...lol

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[Noraj1067]

I'm running at 25 watts and my screen says 4 volts. The screen isn't blinking and it's running well with no spitting. Others have stated that as long as I run it over 4 volts I should be fine. Am I wrong? I understand that if I run it lower that my mod can't down regulate. I'm sorry to disappoint you with not catching on quicker. I'm not trying to be difficult. I have a store telling me to run it at whatever, websites and people saying they run it at say 22 watts, and then others saying I have to turn it up. I like the Atlantis. I want to use it within its limits but also to my liking.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I don't think you can..that's my point of turning it up to 30w..about 4.1v on the .5 ohm coil...mine vapes fantastic at 35w on my 150w IPV3.. these .5 ohm coils really need higher wattages ..its a sub ohm tank..they really shine at 30-35w..
Can lead a horse to water but certainly can't make'um drink...lol

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I agree, vaping an Atlantis .5Ω head below 20w will usually cause more problems than it is worth. I also understand what you're saying about increasing the power, I prefer one flavor at 36w ~ 40.5w, another at 35w ~ 38.5w still another at 24.2w ~ 26.4w.
But,,, the OP most likely would not like the vape from any of them at all. Some folks prefer or have a different definition of vape quality.

You seem to fail to understand not everyone likes the same thing or vapes the same way and that pg/vg ratio, flavoring, nicmg, airflow setting, draw technique, preferred temp of vapor and most importantly each individuals personal preference with all the variables makes a large difference in what power levels one may chose to use.
Your personal preference might be 30w+ due to your specific pg/vg ratio, flavoring, airflow setting, draw technique and your preferred temp of vapor, someone else may prefer 22w with theirs, there is no right or wrong. Talk about leading a horse.

The manufacturer (Aspire) suggests a power range between 20w - 30w, you can go to their site and confirm this for yourself or just look at the head itself, right beside .5Ω is (20w-30w).
3.163v / .5Ω = 20w & 6.32a ~ 3.873v / .5Ω= 30w & 7.74a which equals a voltage setting of 3.2v ~ 3.9v because most devices do not adjust in such small increments.

Just me, I think the OP's problem stems from their device not being able to step down / down regulate voltage.
On a freshly charged battery = unsatisfactory vape for their specific preference, as the battery drains the power output drops which of course lowers the power going to the coil as this takes place the vape quality improves for this particular person .
When the battery is drained then recharged the problem reoccurs until the battery voltage drops back down into the voltage/watt range the OP prefers.

Which IMO, boils down to use a power device that is capable of accurately supplying the power range you prefer at .x Ω range or use a different delivery device with an Ω range that suites the power device you have.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I'm running at 25 watts and my screen says 4 volts. The screen isn't blinking and it's running well with no spitting. Others have stated that as long as I run it over 4 volts I should be fine. Am I wrong? I understand that if I run it lower that my mod can't down regulate. I'm sorry to disappoint you with not catching on quicker. I'm not trying to be difficult. I have a store telling me to run it at whatever, websites and people saying they run it at say 22 watts, and then others saying I have to turn it up. I like the Atlantis. I want to use it within its limits but also to my liking.

It really is as simple as set the power to where ever you like the vape quality the best and enjoy it.

Too low make cause flooding/spitting and reduced head life, too high may cause dry / burnt hits / tastes and reduced head life.