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Gargula

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Hey guys and gals, thanks for having me.

I'm genX, vaping saved my life, currently living in Portugal, but I have lived in Australia too a few years ago.

I started with a little pen rebuildable vape (from Kanger tech??) thanks to a friend that got me into it and taught me how to work with rebuildables.
Currently using a Paranormal and a Kylin mini 2, my wife uses a Thelema Solo with a Blaze RTA.

Kinda wondering if vaping will survive the new regulations, as all european stores seem to have stopped stocking good quality equipment and focusing on disposables... which IMO is an awful idea considering the extra plastic and batteries in the trash, but thats what we have to live with. I guess.
 

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Hey guys and gals, thanks for having me.

I'm genX, vaping saved my life, currently living in Portugal, but I have lived in Australia too a few years ago.

I started with a little pen rebuildable vape (from Kanger tech??) thanks to a friend that got me into it and taught me how to work with rebuildables.
Currently using a Paranormal and a Kylin mini 2, my wife uses a Thelema Solo with a Blaze RTA.

Kinda wondering if vaping will survive the new regulations, as all european stores seem to have stopped stocking good quality equipment and focusing on disposables... which IMO is an awful idea considering the extra plastic and batteries in the trash, but thats what we have to live with. I guess.
You’re ahead with the new regs. Most of them asr about disposables. It’s pretty hard to regulate rebuildables. You may want to look at diy as that is another way to get around things. Bright side is it’s easier than cooking and can save TONS of money. Also you can put in EXACTLY the amount of nic you want and can even titrate off nic completely without discomfort (though that road is long) the only downside is more equipment is needed.
basically just an accurate liquid measuring device and a good scale. The scale i have i got for $13 or so on amazon. I mostly use it for measuring cat food now. I’ve also got a 10ml syringe with no tip i got free with some cat meds. I do have graduated cylinders but i basically dont use em. The only thing they can really even regulate is Attis and liquid nic, but there are lots of places to get both and an atty can be made with a lathe. The nic can be harder. A lot of people (including me) bought lifetime supplies before there were any bans, but it’s usually still available. Im waiting for it to be sold as a last-ditch herbicide. It already is that for emerald borer beetles (you actually inject the tree with a drill). This may yet happen, depending on what invasive species appear where.

So currently you’re more-or-less immune, depending on where you are.
 
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Gargula

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Oct 28, 2013
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Portugal
You’re ahead with the new regs. Most of them asr about disposables. It’s pretty hard to regulate rebuildables. You may want to look at diy as that is another way to get around things. Bright side is it’s easier than cooking and can save TONS of money. Also you can put in EXACTLY the amount of nic you want and can even titrate off nic completely without discomfort (though that road is long) the only downside is more equipment is needed.
basically just an accurate liquid measuring device and a good scale. The scale i have i got for $13 or so on amazon. I mostly use it for measuring cat food now. I’ve also got a 10ml syringe with no tip i got free with some cat meds. I do have graduated cylinders but i basically dont use em. The only thing they can really even regulate is Attis and liquid nic, but there are lots of places to get both and an atty can be made with a lathe. The nic can be harder. A lot of people (including me) bought lifetime supplies before there were any bans, but it’s usually still available. Im waiting for it to be sold as a last-ditch herbicide. It already is that for emerald borer beetles (you actually inject the tree with a drill). This may yet happen, depending on what invasive species appear where.

So currently you’re more-or-less immune, depending on where you are.
I've been making my own juice since i started vaping, about 10yrs ago. I used to get 72-100mg/ml nic, that stopped being available (i get it, its dangerous), now I only have access to 20mg/ml nicshots which are 5 bucks a pop out here. So, what I'm reading into this is that as far as equipment itself, I can pretty much forget about new rtas/mods? all I can find in shops is pretty much new old stock, and only the stuff that didnt sell that well.
 

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I've been making my own juice since i started vaping, about 10yrs ago. I used to get 72-100mg/ml nic, that stopped being available (i get it, its dangerous), now I only have access to 20mg/ml nicshots which are 5 bucks a pop out here. So, what I'm reading into this is that as far as equipment itself, I can pretty much forget about new rtas/mods? all I can find in shops is pretty much new old stock, and only the stuff that didnt sell that well.
B&Mshops and manufacturers dont like to sell mods with rtas on them. They would much prefer you use coil cartridges as they make a lot more money long term.
Often the mods are only available as kits with a useless coil cartridge atty. i generally buy the mod i want and if I can’t do it i just buy the kit and leave the atty in the box (which I save). Online ordering is usually the only way to get stuff. I dont know what the rules are in Portugal.
The 100mg\ml base is only really dangerous if a baby drinks it. It’s already cut down 1/10, pure nic is a tiny bit heavier than water. So 1000+mg/cu. The actually pure stuff is a white powder and IS really dangerous. You gotta wear a bunny suit to handle it. It usually comes in drums.
If 20mg/ml is all you can get its all you can get though. Could be an EU thing. If you can order EU wide though you should be OK.
The best EU stuff used to be German, with the occasional bright spot coming out of Russia. The latter doesn’t happen much now of course. Europeans as a rule tend to be much better with multiple languages, so you may get lucky there. If not there i always machine translation. AliExpress is also a good bet, with the mods being sold as battery powered soldering irons. Theres this cute little soldering tip that fits in a 510. They even work pretty well.
Maybe try Ireland. Britain has a lively market but they're not EU anymore. There may be trade though.
 
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