I'm not sure what's going on...trouble shooting

[pennysmalls]

Ok, I've got three Grands, two of which I just got recently (black wrinkly and a white) and my TRA. The two that I bought recently were straight from Reomods and one is a blem. When I got them they were both working fine as was my TRA but something is going on and I'm only able to use my black wrinkly blem Grand at this time. My TRA Grand that I've had for a couple of months and my brand new white Grand aren't firing right. Both Grands will fire but only very weakly.

I've cleaned both of them thoroughly with hot water, opened them up to check for leaks and to check the firing pin and nipple, everything looks as it should, nothing is loose and there is no leaking going. Both springs looks perfect. So I thought it's either the 510's on both units or it's my atties, which are all Odins and a cloned Mephisto bf'd by chowder. My one Grand which is working will fire all of these atties right up and I get good strong power but when I put them on my two that are giving me trouble I get very little power so am not getting good vapor production at all. Both 510's look fine, they are both clean and the gaskets look as they should. So my atties all work on my one Grand but not on the other two, at least not like they should be working. I'm not getting any power through to the atties.

All of my batteries are brand new AW IMR 2200's and 1600's from RTD vapor and after charging are reading at 4.19.

I've rebuilt all of these atties several times over several days now and no matter what gauge kanthal I use (27g, 28g, 29g) and no matter what ohmage I end up with none of them are firing right on these two Grands but will fire on my third Grand. I am totally stumped. I even ran all of my atties through my ultrasonic cleaner to see if that would help and nada.

What's weird is every now and then one of the two Grands will start firing right for a couple of minutes and then go back to firing weakly.

I honestly don't think it's the 510's but I don't know what else it could be. Any thoughts on what else I can do or check?

 

[tmel]

Got any Noalox or deoxit gold?

 

[pwheeler]

I have the same problem with one of my grands. What I found is that the door magnets are pulling the battery slightly towards the door making the contact point of the switch make minimal contact with the button. Try taking the door off and position the battery and fire it. If you get a strong hit, that's the problem. It is on mine. I have to loosen up the firing pin and pull it a little forward and lock it down. Yours may be a different issue, but worth the try.

 

[pennysmalls]

Oh, yeah I forgot to mention that! I use noalox regularly and have tried everything from none to light coats to totally gooping it on and none of those amounts change the way the atties are firing on the two Grands that are being poop heads.

 

[pennysmalls]

I have the same problem with one of my grands. What I found is that the door magnets are pulling the battery slightly towards the door making the contact point of the switch make minimal contact with the button. Try taking the door off and position the battery and fire it. If you get a strong hit, that's the problem. It is on mine. I have to loosen up the firing pin and pull it a little forward and lock it down. Yours may be a different issue, but with the try.

Geez, I'm bad with details! I actually did watch for that too. And at one point thought that was it on one of the Grands but then tried vaping it without the door on and still the same result. I have not however moved the firing pins, I just didn't want to mess with them unless I absolutely had to. I worry about loosening the nipple and causing problems there. Ok, I think I'll revisit this door thing and mess around with a shim and see if that does anything and then try to adjust the firing pins if not and see what happens. Argh, I miss having multiple Grands to vape, I've become quite spoilt!

 

[Rule62]

One thing to check is the threads on the screw that holds the spring, and the hole in the bottom of the Reo. This is the contact point for the negative connection. Remove the screw, clean up the threads, and clean out the hole in the bottom of the Reo. A Dentek brush and some alcohol work well for this. Put some Deoxit Gold, preferably, or some Noalox, if you don't have Deoxit, on the screw threads, and in the hole.

 

[pennysmalls]

Hmm..I didn't think of that, thanks Rule, will do. I have noticed that I'm getting some buildup from our hard water around my springs bases, which I clean off regularly but I've not removed the springs to check for the buildup underneath, I think I should.

 

[pwheeler]

I hadn't thought of that one either. I'll check that out as well. The spring area looks clean, but can't tell if there's anything underneath. Although, my particular problem is a slight misalignment of the firing pin.

 

[pennysmalls]

While I'm at it, I think I'll remove the white paint from under the spring, I figure that can only help. Can anyone think of a reason I should not do that?

 

[super_X_drifter]

While I'm at it, I think I'll remove the white paint from under the spring, I figure that can only help. Can anyone think of a reason I should not do that?

That can help but you want to do so the finished product is as smooth as possible. Flat contact surfaces are optimal. Once done, put a coat of noalox there.

 

[pennysmalls]

Check, SuperX, I've got my sand paper ready to go!

 

[pennysmalls]

There is some build up under the spring on my TRA, I'll bet that's the problem. I'm stripping the white one under the spring now and there was no build up on this one, I didn't have it long enough. I sure hope removing the paint and adding the noalox solves this.

 

[Spydro]

So it appears to be Reo specific and intermittant since the 2 particular atty's only fire strong sometimes on the 2 Reos in question (?), yet always fire on the Reo you're not having any trouble with?

FWIW, I thought one of my 18650 Woodies died... turned out to be the particular RM2 I had put on it that time was not screwed down the extra tight enough it needed to make good contact with the Reo's 510. IOW, the centerpins are not all created equal in my 8 RM2 atty's for sure.... maybe not in all my Reos either.

I have both a 1/2 ounce tube of Noalox and a 7-8ml bottle of Deoxit. Have never used the Noalox on any of my mods/batts, heard bad things about it long ago right after i bought it (don't remember what the cons were now)... saw no difference at all with the Deoxit when tried, so I don't use either of them on my Reos or batteries. Both the Reos and the batts have consistently hit just fine by just keeping them clean.

 

[Rule62]

I sanded the finish off, down to bare metal, on my 3 Reos when I first got them. I don't know if it helps or not; but it certainly doesn't hurt. But the important thing, IMO, is cleaning the hole and the screw threads.

 

[pennysmalls]

So it appears to be Reo specific and intermittant since the 2 particular atty's only fire strong sometimes on the 2 Reos in question (?), yet always fire on the Reo you're not having any trouble with?

FWIW, I thought one of my 18650 Woodies died... turned out to be the particular RM2 I had put on it that time was not screwed down the extra tight enough it needed to make good contact with the Reo's 510. IOW, the centerpins are not all created equal in my 8 RM2 atty's for sure.... maybe not in all my Reos either.

I have both a 1/2 ounce tube of Noalox and a 7-8ml bottle of Deoxit. Have never used the Noalox on any of my mods/batts, heard bad things about it long ago right after i bought it (don't remember what the cons were now)... saw no difference at all with the Deoxit when tried, so I don't use either of them on my Reos or batteries. Both the Reos and the batts have consistently hit just fine by just keeping them clean.

I suspected my atties right away but they were working on my TRA for a as long as I had the TRA, it's just been recently the TRA has been acting up. So I cleaned the my 3 Odins and Mephisto as well as can be cleaned, rebuilt then all several times over and they all work fantastically on my black Grand but not well at all on my TRA, which had been firing them up great until lately. So I don't think it's the atties...I just don't know. I also tried using no noalox and it was no different than using some or even tons of it.

 

[redeyedancer]

If you cant find the problem send them in I will


Please put
a note with your email address and a brief description of the problem . Also
empty any e juice in the mod and remove the bottle .It helps to put a tissue or napkin around the tube . Please clean the mod if its a mechanical mod flush the mod with hot water and soap .

Reos Mods LLC
120 Ida Jim Rd
Alfred Me 04002

 

[pennysmalls]

Here's what I found under my spring...



So yeah, there was a ton of crap under there and the screw was caked and of course the base of the Reo inside was as well. We have a horrible time with our hard water and now I'm wondering if it hasn't done it's work on my TRA's 510. I wash my Reo's at least once a week if not twice a week.

I sanded the spring area, got it nice and smooth, noaloxed it, cleaned the screw good and noaloxed it and cleaned the screw hole as best I could but nothing has changed. I'm going to take it apart and recheck everything. It has to be my water damaging this Reo, I wonder what the bottom of the 510 and nipple look like inside the tube. Pfft! This sucks.

 

[pennysmalls]

If you cant find the problem send them in I will


Please put
a note with your email address and a brief description of the problem . Also
empty any e juice in the mod and remove the bottle .It helps to put a tissue or napkin around the tube . Please clean the mod if its a mechanical mod flush the mod with hot water and soap .

Reos Mods LLC
120 Ida Jim Rd
Alfred Me 04002

Thank you Rob! I'm gonna try to solve this myself first but just may need your assistance. Have you heard of or seen any problems with Reo's and hard water?

 

[JetMac]

If the spring fix doesn't work, have a look at your center pin on the 510, compare it to the center pin on your working grand and make sure they aren't pushed down lower than the one that's working fine. It could be the center pin just seated to far down to where it's barely making contact when you screw the atomizer down onto it.

When I got the rm6 for my wife's grand, I went to screw it down and noticed it wouldn't fully seat down on the 510 and at first it wouldn't even fire. I had to persuade it to get it all the way down, hoping the entire time I wasn't cross threading it or going to break anything. Luckily I was successful and got it down seated and it finally started working.


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[pennysmalls]

Thanks Jet, I did check that. All three center pins look to be in the same position depth wise. And the atties will fire up on the two trouble Reo's intermittently so there's contact being made, I don't know though that the center pins aren't moving after an attie has been screwed on.