Information overload: How should I upgrade?

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I started with (and still use) a Volcano Inferno battery with the included tank and replaceable cartos. I've been looking to upgrade for months now, yet I still can't decide what else I should take into consideration. My current standards are for a large-capacity tank (I work upwards of 10 hour days, and as I tend to use it heavily and often, I usually use up two 4ml tanks a day) and a battery that lasts longer. Money isn't a huge concern, and I like the idea of playing with different voltage/wattage to find out what I like.

My biggest issue came with using a carto/tank system vs. an atty/tank system. Volcano recently came out with their new BCT, however it seems that the low resistance of the replaceable atomizer is giving the tell-tale burnt taste (I'm guessing by not wicking as much juice as I'm using...?). I actually switched back to using the regular 510 cartomizers and my 4ml tank within a few days because of the horrible flavor and quality of the vapor.

Naturally, I was drawn to the eVic. I'm not a bells-and-whistles kind of person, however everything I've read and the little experience I've had with using a friend's was satisfying. My main concern is this: while 510 threaded, should I just buy a bigger tank and keep using 510 threading cartomizers? I have no objection to replaceable atty's in general, although I have no interest in rebuildable atomizers or a whole lot of modification (hey... I'm not lazy, I'm busy! ;)). Is my issue with the replaceable atty's from Volcano due to their low resistance and/or horrible quality (IMO, Volcano is ridiculously overpriced and their products are shi... crappy), or am I just too "spirited" of a user to work with an atomizer/tank system? The cartos aren't horrible, considering I generally use only one or two flavors, and the only inconvenience is having to replace it every 3-4 days. Really, I just want less work and more vapor! Any advice is greatly appreciated!

P.S. -- Is the software that's included with the eVic actually related to the use of the device itself, or is it just a gimmick that logs information? And is it Apple/Mac compatible?
 

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I was sort of where you are now having issues with burnt carto's and low capacity tanks, I've since switched to the full size Kayfuns and haven't looked back. Build time for one of these usually only takes me about ten minutes and I don't need to change the wick for a couple of weeks, bear in mind I am vaping around 10 ml of juice a day.
 

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So, for a simple, long-lasting battery setup with a large tank, I'd 100% recommend an MPV 2.0 and Kayfun Lite+. That is if money is no object. The KFL+ is about $100 and you can find the clones for around $50. The Kayfuns hold about 4.5 mLs and are literally one of the best vapes out there. If you are looking into a larger capacity tank that uses Kanger replacement heads, I'd go for a Hypertank as it holds up to 5mLs. Good luck!

Hypertank Pyrex Glass BCC - Viper Vape Inc
 

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Thewarmth88 - I agree that it's overrwhelming when trying to decide what the next step should be.

As for tanks you could try looking at a hypertank - HyperTank 5ml bottom coil tank that takes the Kanger evod/protank coils (which by the way are cheap to replace or easy to rebuild).

As for the EVIC, I have no opinion other than I take it the size does not dissuade you from using it at work. Personally I have a Itaste MVP2, it is a self contained 2600mah variable voltage/variable wattage box mod. IMO it is the best investment in vaping for around $40! 101vapes.com usually has the best deal but they are sold out at the moment. There is an ebay seller that has "fancy" MVP2's and the standard colors here: Authentic Innokin Itaste MVP 2 0 Energy with New iClear 16B Starter Kit | eBay

Just my :2c:

Oh and the MVP2 is a lot smaller than it looks in pictures. I can almost hide it in my hand...
mvp2closedhand.jpgMVP2openhand.jpg
 

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So, for a simple, long-lasting battery setup with a large tank, I'd 100% recommend an MPV 2.0 and Kayfun Lite+. That is if money is no object. The KFL+ is about $100 and you can find the clones for around $50. The Kayfuns hold about 4.5 mLs and are literally one of the best vapes out there. If you are looking into a larger capacity tank that uses Kanger replacement heads, I'd go for a Hypertank as it holds up to 5mLs. Good luck!

Hypertank Pyrex Glass BCC - Viper Vape Inc

Beat me to the punch! :oops:
 

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So, for a simple, long-lasting battery setup with a large tank, I'd 100% recommend an MPV 2.0 and Kayfun Lite+. That is if money is no object. The KFL+ is about $100 and you can find the clones for around $50. The Kayfuns hold about 4.5 mLs and are literally one of the best vapes out there. If you are looking into a larger capacity tank that uses Kanger replacement heads, I'd go for a Hypertank as it holds up to 5mLs. Good luck!

Hypertank Pyrex Glass BCC - Viper Vape Inc

great, now i want one of these! right as i thought i'd be ok without ordering stuff for another week or two :evil:
 
I see the advantage to all of them, but with my lack of experience (and maybe lack of motivation), like I said, I'm trying to avoid RBA's. As someone with little time, motivation, or experience, do they take a lot more effort? I don't mind a little bit of tweaking or effort (hell, I actually do a lot of that just by flavoring my own juice), but I'm drawn to how fast and easy it is to replace cartomizers. I'm even more drawn to how fast and easy it is to switch replaceable atomizer heads, but like I said, the only experience I had with those was almost mortifying.
 

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The EVIC comes with some really pointless software, unless you are a hardcore numbers junky and you like EVERYTHING to be recorded...it really isn't worth the 100+$ you will spend on it. You can get much better pv's elsewhere for that price.

Check out things like; the Zmax, the Vamo, the MVP2, the VTR, the SID ect ect. Take a glance over at the APV section of the forum or in the new members forum there is a post your device thread. Look at peoples devices, see if that's what you want from a visual standpoint and research into it. I still find great mods through those methods. I would recommend a VV/VW mod for your next choice, mechanical would be the step after. The VV/VW mods are great because you can really customize your vaping experience and take advantage of your gear to the fullest extent.

If you are hesitant to spend the 100+ on a tank, which is COMPLETELY understandable, try looking at a vivi nova for starters or a kanger pro tank or a jtank. I went bottom coil and I never want to go back, however I do love my vivi nova's. KFL+'s are nice, but to be honest, unless you are able to financially drop that money at the time..I don't think I would recommend it to someone who is just starting out, it's more of a 'next step' area in vaping after you get your feet wet with APV's. To each their own though! Just sharing my opinion
 

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The EVIC comes with some really pointless software, unless you are a hardcore numbers junky and you like EVERYTHING to be recorded...it really isn't worth the 100+$ you will spend on it. You can get much better pv's elsewhere for that price.

Check out things like; the Zmax, the Vamo, the MVP2, the VTR, the SID ect ect. Take a glance over at the APV section of the forum or in the new members forum there is a post your device thread. Look at peoples devices, see if that's what you want from a visual standpoint and research into it. I still find great mods through those methods. I would recommend a VV/VW mod for your next choice, mechanical would be the step after. The VV/VW mods are great because you can really customize your vaping experience and take advantage of your gear to the fullest extent.

If you are hesitant to spend the 100+ on a tank, which is COMPLETELY understandable, try looking at a vivi nova for starters or a kanger pro tank or a jtank. I went bottom coil and I never want to go back, however I do love my vivi nova's. KFL+'s are nice, but to be honest, unless you are able to financially drop that money at the time..I don't think I would recommend it to someone who is just starting out, it's more of a 'next step' area in vaping after you get your feet wet with APV's. To each their own though! Just sharing my opinion

I'll agree with you on the Evic having pointless software. That thing is so silly. I'd go MVP 2.0 all day long over the Evic.

Now, as for my recommendation of the Kayfun, the OP said money wasn't a huge concern, so I went for the big guns. I also recommended the HyperTank, that has a large capacity, which is what the OP was asking for. They Hypertank is only $18 from Viper Vape, so not too expensive at all and uses replaceable heads.
 
Thanks Ahoy! A friend of mine uses the Vamo and said to go for that versus the eVic, and said the exact same thing about the unnecessary BS. I've looked at the kanger pro tank a lot but I don't know what the resistance options are for their atomizers. I have a habit of double-puffing and taking a lot of long, heavy drags in a short period of time (what can I say? Welcome to the service industry) so I'm still unsure of it since that was my issue with the 1.8 ohm heads that Volc-lame-o came out with. Is there a higher resistance replaceable atty available? Or is that even what I should be looking for?

Edit: Thanks to you too, ruby. The hypertank seems great (plus it looks awesome!), and I actually spotted it on Viper Vape. The same issue came up, though, with their comparison to the protank. I just saw where I can choose different resistance for the atty's, but I'm not sure what to look for. Should I just go with one of each and experiment to see what works best?
 
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Now, as for my recommendation of the Kayfun, the OP said money wasn't a huge concern, so I went for the big guns. I also recommended the HyperTank, that has a large capacity, which is what the OP was asking for. They Hypertank is only $18 from Viper Vape, so not too expensive at all and uses replaceable heads.

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to take a shot at you or anything. I didn't even read that money wasn't an issue XD that was my fault. I guess I just jumped to the gun a bit without really reading.
 

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I'll agree with you on the Evic having pointless software. That thing is so silly. I'd go MVP 2.0 all day long over the Evic.

Now, as for my recommendation of the Kayfun, the OP said money wasn't a huge concern, so I went for the big guns. I also recommended the HyperTank, that has a large capacity, which is what the OP was asking for. They Hypertank is only $18 from Viper Vape, so not too expensive at all and uses replaceable heads.

Desetvapes.com sells the hypertank for $11.95 HyperTank
 

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Thanks Ahoy! A friend of mine uses the Vamo and said to go for that versus the eVic, and said the exact same thing about the unnecessary BS. I've looked at the kanger pro tank a lot but I don't know what the resistance options are for their atomizers. I have a habit of double-puffing and taking a lot of long, heavy drags in a short period of time (what can I say? Welcome to the service industry) so I'm still unsure of it since that was my issue with the 1.8 ohm heads that Volc-lame-o came out with. Is there a higher resistance replaceable atty available? Or is that even what I should be looking for?

Edit: Thanks to you too, ruby. The hypertank seems great (plus it looks awesome!), and I actually spotted it on Viper Vape. The same issue came up, though, with their comparison to the protank. I just saw where I can choose different resistance for the atty's, but I'm not sure what to look for. Should I just go with one of each and experiment to see what works best?

Kanger heads come in 1.8, 2.2 and 2.5 Ohm. Or you could get some 28, 30 or 32 gauge wire and cotton and make whatever resistance coil you want! I've rebuilt 4 in the last two days at 1.3 Ohm in 28 gauge, two 2.3's and a 2.7 in 32 gauge.
 
Viper Vape has heads for the Hypertank up to 4 ohm. I feel like it's worth an extra 10-15 bucks to get a few different resistance heads and play around with them to see how well they behave.

Edit: You guys have been awesome! I appreciate all the help. I'm leaning towards the Vamo V5... it's on myvaporstore with 7 different battery options, so of course my next question is about those. Naturally, the panasonic 3400 mAh appeals to me since I'm usually going upwards of 16 hours without an opportunity to charge it. Do you guys know if it's a button-top or flat-top? I've read on here that button-top batteries tend to seat better with the Vamo, but I'm not sure if it really actually matters. Also, feel free to let me know if I should move this to the APV forum, senior guys/mods.:toast:
 
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So I've been combing other threads for the past hour or so, and everybody seems to enjoy getting more vapor from lower resistance heads, but I had to stop because of the horrible performance. Does the type of juice really affect it that much? 1.8 ohm heads with the 3.7v battery I'm using gave me a burnt taste that wouldn't go away after the first few drags, but I'm using 100% PG juice.
 

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So I've been combing other threads for the past hour or so, and everybody seems to enjoy getting more vapor from lower resistance heads, but I had to stop because of the horrible performance. Does the type of juice really affect it that much? 1.8 ohm heads with the 3.7v battery I'm using gave me a burnt taste that wouldn't go away after the first few drags, but I'm using 100% PG juice.

If you go with a Kanger head, I'd definitely go for the 1.8 Ohm head as it will give you a much better vape in the long run. The Vamo is a great APV and so many people on ECF use them. Just remember in your cost analysis, that you will have to factor in buying batteries and a decent charger. A lot of times, if you get a Vamo kit, the charger and batteries it comes with are total crap. So stick with the AW IMR, Panasonic, Sony, or Efest batteries. I have Efests that I use in my mechanical mod, and they work great. Also, be sure you are using high drain batteries.

Now, as far as your heads tasting bad, how long has it been since you've changed it? Sometimes the Kanger heads only last about a week, or even just a few days if you are vaping a lot of juice through them. Also, be sure to give your tank a few unpowered primer puffs every once in awhile to get the vacuum going in your tank, especially if you just filled it. Short, fast draws, without pressing the button, should work well. If you see the bubbles rising in your tank, you know it's wicking correctly. Juice really does affect how long your heads will last. If you've been using the same head for awhile, you can soak it in vodka or ever clear for a few hours, then dry burn it to clean off all the gunk. When I am vaping higher VG, sweeter juices, or dark juices, they tend to gunk up coils really fast.

Hope all of this helps. :)
 
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