Informative video for your analog-smoking friends, family, love ones.

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94_FLSTN

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Just made my first video with the intent that it be informative, entertaining and short (with blatant advert at the end). Like everyone else on the forum, I've lost lots of family & friends to big tobacco and one of the main reasons for my opening an e-cig business was to educate smokers about ecigs v analogs. This video was made for that purpose in mind. I appreciate all feedback. Pls leave a msg here and/or on youtube, to let me know what you think.

Turn up the speakers ... it's got a good soundtrack.

WhyQuitSmoking.mp4 - YouTube




BTW, (Moderators) I'm not sure if this is the best sub-forum to post this link in. I've looked all over the forum and couldn't find a perfect fit. If there's a better place for it, please move to correct forum.
 
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94_FLSTN

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That test needs done with equivalent delivered nicotine level via e-cigarettes.

Yeah do it with an ecig, I would love to see the difference.
Love the Floyd btw.

Thanks for the views and the comments. Original plan was to do it with Marlboro and e-cig side-by-side but, when I got set up to shoot, I realized all of my e-cigs had a built-in safety cutoff and would only allow the button to be pressed for a max of 10 seconds, so I just did a comparison between high-tar and low-tar analogs instead. I plan to shoot again with an e-cig but I'll have to build a mod first that will keep firing and feeding juice for the 5-10 mins that it takes to burn through two packs of analogs.

Also, I realize the video is a little weak (inadequate lighting, I think) but this was my first production so the whole thing was a bit of a learning experience. I've got some other shoots planned for analog comparisons and quality should be better on the next ones.
 

94_FLSTN

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Now THAT was outstanding! Brief, to the point, and not filled with horrific pictures that always infuriated me when I was smoking. You got something really good here, kid!

Thanks for the kind response. That was my intent ... inform, entertain but not to shock or preach. Sounds like we may have hit the mark on that. Never wanted to be preached to myself.
 

94_FLSTN

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I agree here,would like to see the diff. too I be willing to bet the cotton (or white fill) would stay white with the e-cig.


I would fully expect to see the polyfil stay a pristine white. I'll be working on that video when I get the mod built as mentioned in the previous post.
 

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Thanks for the views and the comments. Original plan was to do it with Marlboro and e-cig side-by-side but, when I got set up to shoot, I realized all of my e-cigs had a built-in safety cutoff and would only allow the button to be pressed for a max of 10 seconds, so I just did a comparison between high-tar and low-tar analogs instead. I plan to shoot again with an e-cig but I'll have to build a mod first that will keep firing and feeding juice for the 5-10 mins that it takes to burn through two packs of analogs.

I've got a bunch of USB PT mods lying around I can send ya if you'd like. They'd probably be the best option for something running that long. My only concern would be the carto drying out...perhaps a homemade tank mod to go with it. Think about it, let me know.
 

94_FLSTN

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I've got a bunch of USB PT mods lying around I can send ya if you'd like. They'd probably be the best option for something running that long. My only concern would be the carto drying out...perhaps a homemade tank mod to go with it. Think about it, let me know.

Yeah, a PT might be a good way to do it. I hadn't thought about that. The tank mod was exactly what I was thinking for a box mod but I think the PT is a better idea. If you'll loan me one, I'll add you to the credits.
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I've got a tank mod, on an ego LR dual coil, ready to go. I think I'd need to get one of those 2 amp usb power supplies to run it though. Would your PT mod pull that kind of load? I was thinking of building a hefty box mod so that I didn't have to worry about turning the batteries into rockets, lol.
 

94_FLSTN

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Love the Video!! Just makes me think.... I would do that to myself every day and a half... So glad I found e-ciggs.

Same here frosting. Congrats on the 60-day mark for being smoke free. BTW, your avatar makes it a little tough on someone trying to stay on an atkins diet!
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Yeah, a PT might be a good way to do it. I hadn't thought about that. The tank mod was exactly what I was thinking for a box mod but I think the PT is a better idea. If you'll loan me one, I'll add you to the credits.
:)

I've got a tank mod, on an ego LR dual coil, ready to go. I think I'd need to get one of those 2 amp usb power supplies to run it though. Would your PT mod pull that kind of load? I was thinking of building a hefty box mod so that I didn't have to worry about turning the batteries into rockets, lol.

Yeah 2A USB-AC jacks work best for them. I build mine with 3A rated switches, or if you'd like I can whip up a quick slide switch model so you don't have to worry about holding down a momentary switch.

But yeah, I have no problem sending you one, just PM me the address and I'll stick one in the mail.
 

94_FLSTN

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Yeah 2A USB-AC jacks work best for them. I build mine with 3A rated switches, or if you'd like I can whip up a quick slide switch model so you don't have to worry about holding down a momentary switch.

But yeah, I have no problem sending you one, just PM me the address and I'll stick one in the mail.

Sent you a pm with a link to the power supply to make sure it will work with the PT. Thanks again.
 

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Make sure to operate the e-cig with the tip down. Don't run it inverted as is done with tobacco cigarettes. An e-cig is a gravity-fed liquid-feed device and has to be held with the tip below the mouthpiece at least some of the time. The best attitude for testing is downward at 45 degrees.

All the photos I've seen of clinical trials / lab tests of e-cigs show the equipment being operated incorrectly (inverted). It explains why some of the tests showed vapor ingredients that are not present in the e-liquid, such as the fumes from melted plastics.

The ideal gear for this sort of test is a clear tank running a carto of about 3 ohms, as you can see the liquid refill level, and a 3 ohm carto is less likely to burn the wick or anything else during an extended operation period.

The liquid used should be a clear or minimum-flavor variety. Dark liquids will stain the test filter and look bad even though the color is biodegradable, unlike the tar in tobacco smoke.
 

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Make sure to operate the e-cig with the tip down. Don't run it inverted as is done with tobacco cigarettes. An e-cig is a gravity-fed liquid-feed device and has to be held with the tip below the mouthpiece at least some of the time. The best attitude for testing is downward at 45 degrees.

All the photos I've seen of clinical trials / lab tests of e-cigs show the equipment being operated incorrectly (inverted). It explains why some of the tests showed vapor ingredients that are not present in the e-liquid, such as the fumes from melted plastics.

The ideal gear for this sort of test is a clear tank running a carto of about 3 ohms, as you can see the liquid refill level, and a 3 ohm carto is less likely to burn the wick or anything else during an extended operation period.

The liquid used should be a clear or minimum-flavor variety. Dark liquids will stain the test filter and look bad even though the color is biodegradable, unlike the tar in tobacco smoke.

Good points roly. I did plan to run it with carto up for the gravity feed but had planned to us a 1.7 ohm. I can see your point about the 3 ohm not overheating as much so I'll give both the 1.7 and 3.0 a test run before shooting video to see if there are any probs with either. My tank rig is clear and plan for the liquid to be clear as well, to not introduce staining. Now that I think about it, I believe I'll go ahead and order some clear cartos as well, so that I can see if the poly starts to singe.


I'll test the liquid at an 80/20 PG/VG mix to make sure it's got enough flow through the poly to keep up with the draw down. Hopefully that will still provide enough vapor. If not, I'll dial back the PG until I can find a good balance. Always fun to tinker with this stuff :)
 

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Don't worry about the e-cig being cut off by the power supply. Explain the difference and just put the same mg of delivered nicotine through the e-test. And use the potentially worst scenario like a carto with the poly fill or whatever. We've seen carto's pulled apart and all discolored. Use a tobacco only juice on the clear side of things. Even if you could do it like the analog test I',m 100% sure the coil would fry or the wicking/fill would burn. Pull the carto guts out as part of the end result.
 

94_FLSTN

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Don't worry about the e-cig being cut off by the power supply. Explain the difference and just put the same mg of delivered nicotine through the e-test.

The problem is that, on the eGO batts that I use, the micro-controller cuts out every 8 to 10 sec (safety feature) so I'd either have to reach in and hold the button or set up some kind of intermittent push-rod to do same, in order to get vapor from the e-cig for the same amount of time that it takes to go through a pack of analogs. Using a PT with a slide switch will alleviate that problem. Interesting point about just delivering the same mg of nicotine as the analog for the test, though. With the e-cig running for the same amount of time as it takes to burn the analogs, I'll have to use a really low dosage juice. With Marlboros at about 1.5 mg per stick, or 30 mg per pack, I should set the juice dosage so that it delivers 30 mg over the same time frame. Or I could double it and say "look at this, twice the nicotine with zero tar/chemicals", something to that effect.


Even if you could do it like the analog test I',m 100% sure the coil would fry or the wicking/fill would burn. Pull the carto guts out as part of the end result.

I'm hoping that, running a large tank-carto with a large enough feed hole will prevent the coil/wicking from burning up. That'll take a little trial and error though to see if that's the case. I'd like to be able to pull the carto apart and show little to no discoloration.
 
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