Found this posted and thought it might be of interest.
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2012/08/passive-vaping.html
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2012/08/passive-vaping.html
Interesting New Study on Passive Vaping
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Sounds like concrete evidence that there is no such thing as second hand vapor to me.
If we could only pass a cotinine test and be declared non-smokers for life insurance and employment screenings.
Alright, another study to help support the Clearstream Air Study
Thanks for posting!
Thanks for posting!
This is the type of stuff that won't make the press unfortunately. There is just something too different about what we do for people to ever accept it.
I get asked all the time about if I am scared that my e-cg will blow up in my face, but if you google or youtube exploding e cigarettes, all that can be found was the 1 vet in Florida that was injured. I'd say that is a good record to go 6+ years with e cigs being used and 1 real story of damage, and he was stacking batteries in some sort of homegrown way.
I get asked all the time about if I am scared that my e-cg will blow up in my face, but if you google or youtube exploding e cigarettes, all that can be found was the 1 vet in Florida that was injured. I'd say that is a good record to go 6+ years with e cigs being used and 1 real story of damage, and he was stacking batteries in some sort of homegrown way.
i love the idea but where is the link or title of the actually study? i don't discredit the study but this kind of third hand reporting is what created all the hype over e cigs in the first place.
its no more helpful than an ancedotal rumor.
if we are really going to change public opinion snout vaping we need facts. no more "my cousins dad is an expert" kind of hearsay.
its no more helpful than an ancedotal rumor.
if we are really going to change public opinion snout vaping we need facts. no more "my cousins dad is an expert" kind of hearsay.
When people ask you about ecigs exploding, it's good if you can explain why and how to prevent it. People still think ecigs contain anti-freeze and carcinogens, also. Education is key to acceptance.
There are several cases where ecigs using lithium ion batteries went into meltdown or actually exploded. All of these to date have been stacked mods with two batteries. When you stack batteries, they have to be at equal charges or the higher one will reverse charge into the lower voltage battery. This happens rapidly and li-ion batteries like only slow state changes, such as what a charger provides. If they experience a shorted condition or a rapid reverse charge, the electrolyte heats up and venting occurs. If the vents can't release the pressure fast enough, the case expands and explodes. This can happen in a couple of seconds.
IMR batteries can take short term high current discharge without failing ... up to 10 amps or more. There have been no cases where IMR batteries failed with disastrous results. They produce high heat, but only a small amount of venting. Because of that, I'm an IMR fan these days.
In any case, whatever battery you use, it should be a single cell, not multiple stacked cells. This is just good safety advice. The flashlight forums are a good place to read about battery safety, as is Battery University.
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It's Funny how a Thread about a Mod that someone put a Balloon on has 100 Posts and 20 People Viewing it currently.
Where this thread, which May prove to be a Pivotal piece of Research with Ground Breaking Implications on has 14 Posts.
Where this thread, which May prove to be a Pivotal piece of Research with Ground Breaking Implications on has 14 Posts.
excellent. thank you. thats what happens when you read on phone. i appreciate the link
Good god couldn't they have found a better picture. That woman looks goofy as hell.
Of course this is WHO. Their second hand smoke study also showed no causal effect of second hand smoke (even showed a vaccine effect on kids raised around smokers) and that didn't stop them from ignoring the study and giving the results they wanted it to say.
That is Exactly why I believe this Study is Important, because the WHO did it.
I feel, as many others do, that the WHO has been Involved in some Controversial Study Outcomes. They have an Army of WHO Haters and WHO Lovers, no Dr. Seuss reference intended.
By the WHO coming out and Saying that Passive Vape is Harmless, I think it will spur the WHO-Hater’s to Challenge the Results. This will lead to More Peer Reviewed Studies.
If the WHO study is found to be False, well, the e-Cigarette Community isn't really any worse than before the Study. The Non e-Cigarette people have been say'n it since Day One.
But what if the WHO Study has some Merit?
If East Overshoe Wisconsin Community College publishes a Passive Vape Study, who cares? But if the WHO does, it is bound to Generate Interest.
If the sale/use of e-Cigarettes and e-Liquids is going to continue in a Relatively Unregulated Market, there will be Some Regulation, More Peer Reviewable Studies have to be Published.
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There have been others although not as bad. You'll find them if you search far enough back in this forum. If memory serves, unprotected batteries were involved. There is some risk inherent in using Li-ion batteries. The solution is to either improve the technology or to ban all products that use them (e.g. electronic cigarettes, some flashlights, cell phones and laptop computers.)
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