is high wattage obtainable with vv?

[Ebertshay]

Hello
It seems that most vv devices have a max on watts too low for my liking... With my mech I generally build to .7 ohms or lower, so on a fresh battery I vape at 25ish watts. My evic maxes out at 11 watts, even Provari and reo grand vv I believe max out around 15 watts. For someone like me who prefers higher wattage is a regulated or vv device just out of the question? Basically I'm just tired of swapping out batteries but don't wanna sacrifice the power....
Thanks!

 

[yzer]

You can't vape very long at 25 watts on a mech. When the battery drains from 4.2V to 4.1V you have already lost more than one watt. The amp limits on regulated VV or VV/VW are going to keep you from getting anywhere near 25 watts. I don't know of any exceptions that can hit 25 watts.

 

[Thrasher]

you just need to learn how to tailor your build to a vv device.
watts alone do not make the vape. wick setup, type of wire, wraps, resistance, etc. can change things drastically.
I can achieve almost the same vape at 9 watts using ribbon wire in my dripper on a vv that i can with 28g round in the same dripper at .8 ohms on a mech

 

[UncleChuck]

There are some newer devices coming out which have more power than your older generation variable device, DNA 20 seems to be the most popular, and China is evidently cloning the DNA 20 so we'll see how that goes.

If you want high power with the current crop of devices I'd suggest getting something like a Vamo or Zmax and running it in dual 18350 mode, in voltage mode (not wattage mode), with a 28g coil around 1.3-1.5 ohm.

A 1.5ohm build at 6v will be about 24 watts of power. These devices are not limited by wattage (unless in wattage mode) but by amperage. This 24 watts of power will be 4 amps, within the 5 amp limit of the device. The reason you want to use dual 18350s is because the chip cannot boost a single battery up to 6v at that load.

Doing this I got a vape that matched my subohm builds and still had regulation and protection. It's also huge with the dual 18350s, and run-time sucked. But that's the trade-off getting high power with an APV, without getting into the more expensive ones.

 

[minimalsaint]

I accidentally built a .8 ohm coil on my MVP 2 and it fired at 5 volts. That's 31.25 watts of pure scary.

 

[UncleChuck]

I accidentally built a .8 ohm coil on my MVP 2 and it fired at 5 volts. That's 31.25 watts of pure scary.

Does the MVP actually refuse to fire if overloaded, or does it just automatically down regulate to the highest possible power if overloaded?

The Provari, for example, just won't fire if you are driving it too hard, it will throw an error code. Many of the cheaper mods don't do that, they fire just fine, but under the hood are automatically down regulating to a save level. In other words you'd think you are getting full power but you aren't.

Because if the MVP is actually able to provide 5v to a .8ohm coil I'll be very very impressed and perhaps rethink my distaste of boxmods

 

[Rader2146]

There aren't any single battery "mainstream" devices that will go above 20W. Dual battery box mods with a buck regulator open some options up to 50 watts, or more if you build your own.

 

[minimalsaint]

Does the MVP actually refuse to fire if overloaded, or does it just automatically down regulate to the highest possible power if overloaded?

The Provari, for example, just won't fire if you are driving it too hard, it will throw an error code. Many of the cheaper mods don't do that, they fire just fine, but under the hood are automatically down regulating to a save level. In other words you'd think you are getting full power but you aren't.

Because if the MVP is actually able to provide 5v to a .8ohm coil I'll be very very impressed and perhaps rethink my distaste of boxmods

I was shocked not to see an error code when I hit the button.
I have no idea to be honest- I didn't vape it, only fired it to the 10-second cutoff a couple of times out of disbelief. I suppose I should try again and test the voltage to see what is actually pushing to the coil.
The MVP is my first VV / VW device and I hate it, so I don't feel bad making it a guinea pig.

 

[Dan Knight]

Never mind.

 

[minimalsaint]

So it appears the voltage is automatically dumbed down by the MVP. Set at 5 volts with a 1.2 ohm coil, the voltage only read 3.3 at the coil. That's just a hair over 9 watts and less than 3 amps.
Auto regulated vs. error.