Is Innovaper FAke?

[Palmetto]

To be fair, the implications of the title of this thread are varied. If you'd wanted it to be neutral, you should have titled it something more like:

Please respond to counterfeit 510 accusation.

Or something similar. As it is, you're impugning the whole company by implication when all you (evidently) wanted to do was ask about the atomizers.

SM, you are quite an interesting study.

First, you felt compelled to state on the TW forum thread about this matter (in bold type no less):

Be aware:

I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH INNOVAPOR OR ANY OTHER VENDOR IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.


I'm just a consumer of the product, exactly like the rest of you. The information I posted in that thread came from reading InnoVapor's posts on the topic. Also, note that dietSMOKES is selling the same atomizers.

If these turn out to be fraudulent product, I'll be just as ticked off as everyone else, and probably more so than many since I've been a big booster of InnoVapor in the past.

And your first post on this thread, in Innovapor's forum:

I'm not ready to jump to any conclusions yet, but I would like an explanation from SleepHater on this issue.

And now, with no (public) explanation from SleepHater, or anyone else from InnoVapor, you are on the attack, three hours later, questioning not only the concerns of other members, but the title of the thread to which you orignally posted the above.

Aside from the forum owner, I'm guessing (without having the time or inclination to tabulate) that you're the most prolific poster of positive feedback on this vendor forum -- and you do it all out of the goodness of your heart?

How touching.

 

[dperino]

i'll tell ya what. there appear to be some who are awfully nonchalant about that addict thing. and it really comes through when some say they don't care if an ecig is counterfeit or not, just as long as it works. no doubt. never mind whether or not someone put all of their efforts in development and production to get something out to market. not the addicts problem, they just want their drug. so is that the name of the game for the ecig user as well? screw ethics and conducting oneself with honor and integrity? oh i forgot, let's just blame that kind of stuff on the disease.

 

[Surf Monkey]

There's absolutely no inconsistency in what I've posted. If you're implying that I have some vested interest in InnoVapor, you're completely out of line because it's not true.

 

[Twinkie]

There's absolutely no inconsistency in what I've posted. If you're implying that I have some vested interest in InnoVapor, you're completely out of line because it's not true.

Oh, come on! Rampant shill paranoia is one of the best aspects of ECF!

Why, just this month, I've worked for Blu and InnoVapor. I suspect I'll be working for Johnson Creek soon, having posted that I received their liquid in a reasonable amount of time and enjoyed it.

 

[auritribe]

Oh, come on! Rampant shill paranoia is one of the best aspects of ECF!

Why, just this month, I've worked for Blu and InnoVapor. I suspect I'll be working for Johnson Creek soon, having posted that I received their liquid in a reasonable amount of time and enjoyed it.

well that's what happens when you have eleventy billion suppliers with relatively questionable reliability...its hard to know who to believe...

 

[Twinkie]

well that's what happens when you have eleventy billion suppliers with relatively questionable reliability...its hard to know who to believe...

Seriously. I spent hours going through the different vendors before I bought my first PV.

It took another week of Blu playing "Maybe tomorrow, maybe next week" before I was ready to pull the trigger. Were it not for that, I would have stuck with my original "Screw this. Blu is the path of least resistance."

 

[Palmetto]

There's absolutely no inconsistency in what I've posted.

No, I'm afraid it's quite inconsistent.

If you're implying that I have some vested interest in InnoVapor, you're completely out of line because it's not true.

Actually, your post on the TW forum raised the implication. And what exactly is a "vested interest?" Is it investment in the company? Or simply reward and/or expectation of freebees for boosterism?

An interesting question.

 

[Slo Ryd]

Greetings to all,
It has been brought to my attention that claims have been made concerning our affiliation with Joye Technologies. Rumors that we have not made any purchases directly through Joye Technologies are correct. We purchase our Joye 510 products from Eastmall in China. Their product availability and service is outstanding. We have also purchased from Totally Wicked-E Liquid in Florida. They have been very supportive in helping us with our inventory and offer our customers an option in atomizers (Titan).
Mark Campopiano
InnoVapor, LLc

 

[pillbox38]

dperino>>>great post.. Not much integrity in supplying anothers product without permission fake or real..Its unethical..

And im not trying to say im mr moral, but i would not want to sell anothers product.

The adventure is in creating your own. Ok its an ECig but at least try and put some thought and care into how its presented and sold.

As always i live or die as a business by my products. I brand them not only because i love my imagery but i imprint myself in them.

I see them as my baby, i will stand behind my goods into the gates of hell.

Thats why im p...ed by this whole saga..I dont care who sells what unless its my stuff falsely sold.

 

[NoMorButts4Me]

Oh, come on! Rampant shill paranoia is one of the best aspects of ECF!

LOL! Thank you! A GOOD LAUGH was just what I needed!

Is there a Topic for "Best of ECF"?? I nominate Twinkie's line above.

 

[Surf Monkey]

No, I'm afraid it's quite inconsistent.

I stand by what I said.

Actually, your post on the TW forum raised the implication. And what exactly is a "vested interest?" Is it investment in the company? Or simply reward and/or expectation of freebees for boosterism?

An interesting question.

Complete hogwash. They'd have to send me a f-ing boat load of free stuff to get me to compromise my values and prop their product under false pretenses.

Look, you're welcome to think whatever you want about me. That's your prerogative, but I'm telling you flat out that I have no connection to InnoVapor whatsoever beyond being a (up to this point) satisfied customer.

 

[Robert_]

Oh, come on! Rampant shill paranoia is one of the best aspects of ECF!

Lol Definitely one of my favorite posts.

I got my 510 through Innovapor and it was painless for me.

I think their only problem is they are supplying addicts. If every business treated my like they did I'd be one happy f**k.

 

[Twinkie]

Complete hogwash. They'd have to send me a f-ing boat load of free stuff to get me to compromise my values and prop their product under false pretenses.

Noah, if you're reading this, you'd better give me a raise right now.

I was pimping you out for sending me stuff on time. I had no idea you were giving Surf Monkey a boat full of free stuff.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Never mind.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Noah, if you're reading this, you'd better give me a raise right now.

I was pimping you out for sending me stuff on time. I had no idea you were giving Surf Monkey a boat full of free stuff.

Too bad no one is paying you to be a tool, because you're doing a fantastic job of it.

 

[Surf Monkey]

i'll tell ya what. there appear to be some who are awfully nonchalant about that addict thing. and it really comes through when some say they don't care if an ecig is counterfeit or not, just as long as it works. no doubt. never mind whether or not someone put all of their efforts in development and production to get something out to market. not the addicts problem, they just want their drug. so is that the name of the game for the ecig user as well? screw ethics and conducting oneself with honor and integrity? oh i forgot, let's just blame that kind of stuff on the disease.

For what it's worth, I supported the idea of "if it works, who gives a damn who made it" initially, but on reflection, you're correct. It's an ethics issue. There's no reason to support companies who are essentially living off the work of others. I know I'd be up in arms if someone started using my graphic design or photography in an unauthorized way.

 

[pillbox38]

Ok Im at fault her for not contacting patti and reacting to an EMail from Joytech. A guy called Noah Minskoff apparently buys from Patti, i was led to believe he sold in bars at the weekend...

In fact he is from Innovapour.

So in a nutshell rightly i will get slated and i am sincerely sorry innovapour this blew up today..

I just called patti after reading a post from Twinkie...innovapours atomisers are joytechs latest and of excellent quality.
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[Twinkie]

Too bad no one is paying you to be a tool, because you're doing a fantastic job of it.

Do you really think he'd promote me to your job?

Ladies and Gentlemen... please enjoy tonight's 24mg ECF rendition of William Golding's Lord of the Flies.

 

[Robert_]

Ok Im at fault her for not contacting patti and reacting to an EMail from Joytech. A guy called Noah Minskoff apparently buys from Patti, i was led to believe he sold in bars at the weekend...

In fact he is from Innovapour.

So in a nutshell rightly i will get slated and i am sincerely sorry innovapour this blew up today..

I just called patti after reading a post from Twinkie...innovapours atomisers are joytechs latest and of excellent quality.
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A very understandable misshap.

But now I want to read back just because I think it makes it that much funnier to read all the posts from people going nuts against Innovapor.

This particular bandwagon of haters has run out of gas, but I'm sure there will be more.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Do you really think he'd promote me to your job?

Ladies and Gentlemen... please enjoy tonight's 24mg ECF rendition of William Golding's Lord of the Flies.

Case in point.