Is it OK to use UR18500 Sanyo batteries in my mechanical mod?

[Thrasher]

So why the AW's at home only? Because they don't hold their charge as long?

yea thats the only reason. its nice at work to know im not stopping to change a battery, as i have to grab a puff here nandd there when i can, dont get a real break and a dying battery would bum me out.

I actually started just using them for my provari but i tried it in my mech and said wow love the duration.

I do not think panasonic makes any 350 size, the best i would think is the aw 900mah can only get so much life crammed in that little body, and so far aw seems to be the highest and closest to the rating on the label.

 

[Baditude]

The only 18350 batteries I've ever seen have been those made by AW and Efest. Between those two, AW's are superior IMO.

 

[Thrasher]

after seeing the pics of the exploded flashlight you couldnt pay me to use an efest imr or not. opinions and results vary but thats all i needed to see. there is no way in ell im gonna risk pulling 20 watts out of one.

it wasnt even a vent and then built up gases. he pressed the button and POP! destroyed the coffee maker with shooting batteries everywhere.

 

[Vwls]

Scary - I just want to know I'm safe. After all, I quit smoking so I'd live longer and live without harm. How crazy would it be to get injured by vaping?

 

[Baditude]

I had to shake my head when your original request was for a quality battery for cheap. Like a Provari, you often get what you pay for, and you usually have to pay a little more for quality regardless of what it is. These batteries that we use in our mods pack a lot of stored energy, and in a sense they are an accident waiting to happen. No battery is completely safe. Some are safer than others.

I see people on ECF bragging about the deals that they "found" on Ebay or Fastech. Cheap no-name batteries of questionable quality with a dubiously high mAh rating. Buying batteries that should never be used in a mod. Sound familiar?

People need to educate themselves on which batteries to buy for the application in which they will be used. I'll never forget the guy who was using a new mod. He had just received it after the B&M vendor had built his new RBA with a sub ohm coil. The kid had no idea what he had or what he was doing. He promptly destroyed two hot springs and wondered why his power switch was so hot. He was lucky that he didn't have a more serious incident. This was so wrong on so many different levels.

The number one priority for choosing a battery IMO should be safety, and then safety. This is why I no longer use protected batteries. Within a month of receiving my first mod using Trustfire protected batteries, I had one vent violently and almost cause a fire. Since that incident I did more research and now use only IMR safe chemistry batteries in both my mechanical and regulated mods. For over a year I've had no problems using AW IMR batteries in both my mechanical or regulated mods.

 

[Vwls]

Well I didn't mean cheap - I just meant that of the good ones, what site has the best deal...

 

[Vwls]

I contacted Fasttech and told them they are endangering people's lives selling those crappy Sanyos. LOL I wonder what they will say.

 

[Baditude]

I contacted Fasttech and told them they are endangering people's lives selling those crappy Sanyos. LOL I wonder what they will say.

I assume that they do have a pratical application. Maybe a flashlight? I dunno if I would even want one in mine.

It would be nice if they offered a precaution that those batteries should not be used in APV's. Then again, maybe they don't know better. Makes me wonder how many people are using those same batteries in their mech mods. Thank goodness you had the good sense to ask here if they were safe.

 

[Thrasher]

I contacted Fasttech and told them they are endangering people's lives selling those crappy Sanyos. LOL I wonder what they will say.

well to be fair FT sells gadgets long before they thought up an ecig section,been getting pc and electronic junk their for a long time.
our needs are so specialized and too many people are running off without informing themselves. in their defense they have upped the selection of high drain batteries for our needs.

it's really up to us to do the research and know what we need to order. so really unless they specifically mislabeled the battery as a vaping battery it's not really their fault.. it's no different then walking into a battery depot and saying " i need an 18650" without specifying the requirements.

what gets me is these vape shops handing people whatever they have on the shelf and saying "it should work ok"

 

[WattWick]

Some of my first batteries were the Efest 18350s. They lost their zing quite fast and is basically useless now. The AW IMRs I got just a couple weeks later are still going strong. Costs more? Yes. More "expensive" in long term use, definitely no.

Got a couple of those Sanyo 18500s as well. I use them with a fuse. Been planning to short one to see how it reacts. Just haven't gotten around to it yet. This experiment would NOT be inside a mech mod, mind you.

Sanyo is far from crap. They're the worlds largest Lithium battery manufacturer. Currently a subsidiary of Panasonic. So, it's fairly safe to assume that the revered Pannies are in fact made by Sanyo. However, the chemistry of these UR18500FK batteries in particular may not be considered good for vaping uses.

 

[Myrany]

I was actually wondering if it was my imagination that my Efest 18350s were not lasting as long as they did when I got them in May. Glad to know I am not loosing it.

 

[Vwls]

well to be fair FT sells gadgets long before they thought up an ecig section,been getting pc and electronic junk their for a long time.
our needs are so specialized and too many people are running off without informing themselves. in their defense they have upped the selection of high drain batteries for our needs.

it's really up to us to do the research and know what we need to order. so really unless they specifically mislabeled the battery as a vaping battery it's not really their fault..

I have to respectfully disagree. when you buy a mechanical mod on their site, in the drop down list on the page advertising the mod, they offer you the batteries. They are saying these are the batteries that go with this mod - buy them together. That is what I did and if I hadn't questioned the look of them when I opened the package (they of course arrived with the mod), those things would be in my mod being fired right now. Fasttech is absolutely accountable for this.

 

[SissySpike]

I wont buy from fasteck again. I ordered one of their RBAs just to check it out see how bad or how good it is and it would not screw in to 90% of my Mods I tossed it in the trash and I'm satisfied I don't want the type of quality they sell.

I only buy batteries from RTD Piece of mind is worth a few extra dollars to me. I take it back I grabbed some Sony 30 amp batteries fron Ebay cause RTD dose not carry them.

 

[Baditude]

I have to respectfully disagree. when you buy a mechanical mod on their site, in the drop down list on the page advertising the mod, they offer you the batteries. They are saying these are the batteries that go with this mod - buy them together. That is what I did and if I hadn't questioned the look of them when I opened the package (they of course arrived with the mod), those things would be in my mod being fired right now. Fasttech is absolutely accountable for this.

I would have to agree with you on this point. Unfortunately, not everyone will educate themselves on which batteries are safe to use with a mod. You assume if the batteries are suggested in a drop down menu for a mechanical mod that those are the correct batteries for that mod. Recommending a Lithium Cobalt Li Ion battery is inexcuseable in my mind. A customer needs to accept some responsibility themselves, but so does the vendor.

I guess I need to update my blog on mod batteries to include this precaution.

 

[Jimi D.]

I wont buy from fasteck again. I ordered one of their RBAs just to check it out see how bad or how good it is and it would not screw in to 90% of my Mods I tossed it in the trash and I'm satisfied I don't want the type of quality they sell.

I only buy batteries from RTD Piece of mind is worth a few extra dollars to me. I take it back I grabbed some Sony 30 amp batteries fron Ebay cause RTD dose not carry them.

Yeah, I got the Sony 30 amp batteries from Ebay. It took forever receiving them from China. I also ordered them from Fast Tech. They were half the price at Fast Tech, and were the identical battery. Fast Tech is surely a hit and miss with products. Just like anywhere else in the vaping industry. RTD gets their batteries from China. Too bad Fast Tech doesn't carry IMR batteries. RTD has very good prices. So does Lighthound.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I would have to agree with you on this point. Unfortunately, not everyone will educate themselves on which batteries are safe to use with a mod. You assume if the batteries are suggested in a drop down menu that those are the correct batteries for that mod. Recommending a Lithium Cobalt Li Ion battery is inexcuseable in my mind. A customer needs to accept some responsibility themselves, but so does the vendor.

I guess I need to update my blog on mod batteries to include this precaution.

Not only is FastTech recommending Lithium Cobalt batteries, they are shipping them with the Vamo kit. Mine came with two DKI 18350 ICR batteries. I was horrified.

Granted, the Vamo is not a mech and has the requisite protection circuitry, but an ICR in any high drain situation is a hand grenade looking for a place to go off.