Is it really worth it. LR306 Mod

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I know some people de-wick and or debridge their atty's. With the cisco spec LR306 specifically is it worth the hassle? Are the results more psychological than anything? What about leakage? If there is a benefit worth modding the atty, is it worth the headache of having to clean up your battery more often? And lastly......does the joye LR 510 hang with the cisco (vapor production, TH, flavor)? Does the joye use less juice? Does the joye last longer? If I had to choose the order of importance I would say 1.) TH, 2.)Flavor is a very close second. And 3.) vapor.

Am I using the wrong atomizer? To be quite honest, I got the cisco 306 because of all the hype. How could I have not! But I gotta say it's the only atomizer I have ever used that leaves the back of my throat feeling like I gargles with battery acid. It has great vapor production and TH but definitely diminishes flavor to almost half IMO.

I'm not a newb to vaping by any stretch but I have a great idea for an atomizer. Make one like a regulated PV. It heats up when u press the button and internally adjusts to factors like draw, kind of liquid, wicking speed, and temp of coil so u get a perfect vape even if you suck for 20 seconds. This last part was an afterthought. I don't even know if it makes sense.
 

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I dewick my cisco 306's brand new. I don't even wet them. It is definitely worth the hassle to me. Gives me pure clean vape for an average of 1 month or longer. Just my 2 cents

Thank you. Your $0.2 is what I wanted. Maybe I'll try it after I burn out my next 306 so as not to go virgin on a brand new one. If I screw up at least I'm at no loss.
 

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Personally, I like to debridge/dewick all of my atomizers. On a 306, it's just so nice for dripping. You just drop the liqud straight in to the coil reservoir. No point in the bridge unless your using a cart, anyway

I never carted with a 306. Just drip. I guess that's true about the bridge now that u mention it
 

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I'm not a newb to vaping by any stretch but I have a great idea for an atomizer. Make one like a regulated PV. It heats up when u press the button and internally adjusts to factors like draw, kind of liquid, wicking speed, and temp of coil so u get a perfect vape even if you suck for 20 seconds. This last part was an afterthought. I don't even know if it makes sense.

There is something close to this, but it is not the atomizer itself. It will do this for any atty you attach to it. It is a mod called Darwin. Here's a general idea of how it works.

You set with a dial something affectionately deemed the Pixie setting by Darwin users. It's a "Power" setting, similar to watts.

Darwin automatically and constantly reads the resistance and amprage of the atomizer and adjusts the voltage to keep a stable heat level. You can adjust this power in real time while you draw if you like.

The Pixie setting remains constant whatever atomizer or cartomizer you screw on. If you like a juice at a setting 8.5, any atty you throw on it...keep the same setting (perhaps with minor adjustments). LR, HV, Regular...it does not matter!

As your atty ages, or you use different viscosities of juices...you draw air over it, etc...the resistance of atomizers will change.

Darwin constantly monitors and changes things to keep the consistant heat that you've dialed in as you vape. It'll crank out from around 3v up to 12v to do this :)

I'm really loving my Darwin :)

Check out the Nhaler website, as they are a US distributor of this mod. It retails for around $230...that includes the built in batteries. 2year warranty on the mod. 1 year on the battery. It charges via USB and you can charge it while vaping. Depending on atomizer/carto type...folks are reporting battery life upto and over 12 hours between charges.
 
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well this moronic 3 word response totally changes my point of view

Sorry but its dumb. The bridge and wick hold liquid so good. After you debridge and dewick your left having to drip alot more and alot of juice gets wasted not to mention there is no change in flavor if you debridge. Also there's a good chance you will break your atty trying to debridge. I dont doubt that some people will truly believe its a good idea I just think its dumb.
 

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I don't think de-bridging is a good idea but I always de-wick my 306's. I'll sometimes try it with the wick in it first and see how it goes, but in the end I always end up taking it out. The last 306 I did this to was an IKV HV 306. When I first got it I was vaping it with the wick and it kept making a funny sound when I hit it and the flavor just wasn't coming through for me. At first I thought "this atty just isn't for me", but then I de-wicked it and now it works like a champ!

I wouldn't remove the bridge because then it's going to be very easy to flood the atty. The metal mesh bridge holds excess liquid so you can still drip 5-6 drops without making it gurgle.
 

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I don't think de-bridging is a good idea but I always de-wick my 306's. I'll sometimes try it with the wick in it first and see how it goes, but in the end I always end up taking it out. The last 306 I did this to was an IKV HV 306. When I first got it I was vaping it with the wick and it kept making a funny sound when I hit it and the flavor just wasn't coming through for me. At first I thought "this atty just isn't for me", but then I de-wicked it and now it works like a champ!

I wouldn't remove the bridge because then it's going to be very easy to flood the atty. The metal mesh bridge holds excess liquid so you can still drip 5-6 drops without making it gurgle.

Me too. I dewick when new--one less thing to burn and taste nasty. I just debridged a 306 that was gunky and it really helped to clean out the black build up, but I don't regularly do it.
 

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Sorry but its dumb. The bridge and wick hold liquid so good. After you debridge and dewick your left having to drip alot more and alot of juice gets wasted not to mention there is no change in flavor if you debridge. Also there's a good chance you will break your atty trying to debridge. I dont doubt that some people will truly believe its a good idea I just think its dumb.

And I truly believe there are idiots that walk among us. Don't tell me that the wick does not burn in some cases and can totally ruin a 10.00 attie and the ONLY solution is to dewick. So save myself the trouble and do it up front. If you wanna keep throwing the word "dumb" around,,,,,,,, do so elsewhere or just say you don't have a f#$@#$ clue of what you're talking about
 

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Silica used in the wicks doesn't burn till in the thousands of degrees F.
However, they can trap yukky flavors or hold juices that will burn.

Usually when folks taste burn on a new atty...it's just the shine burning off the coils.

If it's a well broken in atty....yeah, the wick can lead to some taste issues...but in theory it shouldn't. That stuff isn't going to burn.
 
I've never broken an atty by debridging.

And 306s are all about the inner reservoir. So once you pull the bridge off, you just drip right in there. Flooding is only a problem if you overfill, which i dont really do, ever.

I drip because the flavor is great, and because it's easy to switch flavors. Having to deal wth a big fat wick and bridge in the way of the coil just makes everything more complicated.
 

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And I truly believe there are idiots that walk among us. Don't tell me that the wick does not burn in some cases and can totally ruin a 10.00 attie and the ONLY solution is to dewick. So save myself the trouble and do it up front. If you wanna keep throwing the word "dumb" around,,,,,,,, do so elsewhere or just say you don't have a f#$@#$ clue of what you're talking about


No the wick doesn't burn It feeds juice to the atty. I'm sorry but dewicking is not good. Its not as bad as debridging though. If you only dewick your only ruining your atty halfway.

When you get that really nasty taste in your atty it doesnt go away just becasue you dewick or debridge. IME

Good for anyone who likes to dewick and bridge. I just think its dumb.
 
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No the wick doesn't burn It feeds juice to the atty. I'm sorry but dewicking is not good. Its not as bad as debridging though. If you only dewick your only ruining your atty halfway.

When you get that really nasty taste in your atty it doesnt go away just becasue you dewick or debridge. IME

Good for anyone who likes to dewick and bridge. I just think its dumb.

I agree with u on the fact of the wick not burning. I have torched my wicks with a butane bernzomatic butane torch on removable wick atty's and that doesn't burn them. It cleans them. The juice that gets over heated builds up and creates a thick gunk and that burns. If a torch doesn't burn the wick, the heating coil definitely won't. I know a lot of people already know that, I was just posting that for the ones that don't.

I get the debridging thing I guess. Some people state the juice gets down in there better. But the wick holds juice an keeps it from running through the bottom hole. If you don't abuse the button on the battery (3-4 second draws, on the LR 306's that's plenty. You diminish the atty's life if u hold the button down real long), and clean your Atty every so often, that hunky build up will not happen.

All in all I started this thread to obtain info from others experience so I value all opinion's no matter what they are, and appreciate anyone who took the time to stop by and add to the post. I have never de-wicked/debridged any Atty yet let alone a 306 but I will try it so I can see if I get the same results as u that swear by it.
 
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I dewick my cisco 306's brand new. I don't even wet them. It is definitely worth the hassle to me. Gives me pure clean vape for an average of 1 month or longer. Just my 2 cents

Someone please explain to me how to dewick and debridge a 306. I'm not even sure what the wick and bridge is. I'm fairly new to vaping (three months) and I've seen this mentioned a lot. I have a two week old Cisco 306LR atty that seemed to have suddenly quit.
 

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Someone please explain to me how to dewick and debridge a 306. I'm not even sure what the wick and bridge is. I'm fairly new to vaping (three months) and I've seen this mentioned a lot. I have a two week old Cisco 306LR atty that seemed to have suddenly quit.

Try this link, however videos are all over you tube on how to do this

YouTube - Removing The Bridge (mod)
 
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