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    I have been vaping with a 510 for about a month and a half and am thinking about something new. I like the TH and vapor from the 510 but the atty seems to get hot fast, the batteries don't last that long, and it seems like I am constantly topping off the cart. The ptb cart filler helped a little. I am thinking about making a box mod or buying a janty stick. I was wondering how the JS is with the classic atty? I think that I have read that it is the same atty as the dse801. Anyway, I am not sure which way to turn at this point but would be thankful for some advice.
     

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    Hi Hittman,
    Only been vaping about 7 weeks myself but have the 510, 901 and have just got the Jantystick v2. The 510 has all the traits you mention. The 901 has great flavour and the batteries seem to last a bit longer to me. Have had the stick for only a couple of days but seems excellent. Battery life is around the 5 or 6 hour mark, throat hit is good (vaping different flavours not just tobacco based ones) and the carts are quite large so don't seem to need topping off so much. I'm using the Janty atty which is the same as the low bridge 801 afaik. All is good so far but as I say, it's early days so can't really give a definative answer for the long term. I'm very pleased so far though:thumbs:
    Hope that helps a bit;)
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    The 801 atomizer is the largest on the market and thus the largest cart as well. I have found that the only way to get good throat hit from it, however, is to use it with a 5 or 6 volt device. So I think you are moving in the right direction. The Janty Stick is well liked on the forum. It is a 3.7 volt device, however but it still might be just fine for you. Several other options are the Prodigy (5 volt) or the GG (6 volt) or as you mentioned, make a box mod but I would suggest going 5 or 6 volt if you do that. Most of these premiere devices get between 5-7 hours on a charge and of course the batteries only cost about $2 which is quite a savings. Here are some links for the devices mentioned:

    Prodigy: PureSmoker.com - Home of the USA Built PV !!!
    GG: SmokeJuice - HOME
    JantyStick: Janty USA - Janty USA

    Note: if you switch to an 801 device, many of us really like www.bestecigs.com BE112 atomizer which fits any 801 device. I think it is the best atomzier for dripping.
     

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    The problem I have with the high voltage models is the price. I have already spent quite a bit on the 510's and accessories that I have and have a really hard time spending another $150 on a new kit that I don't know for sure if I will like. However, Thank you very much for the info
     

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    The problem I have with the high voltage models is the price. I have already spent quite a bit on the 510's and accessories that I have and have a really hard time spending another $150 on a new kit that I don't know for sure if I will like. However, Thank you very much for the info

    You ought to see if there are any vapers in your area who would be willing to meet with you and let you play with some different models.

    I have a standing offer to anyone who wants to make the trek to west county St. Louis (Wildwood) . . . for the price of a cup of coffee, I'll bring my Prodigy, GG, Screwdriver, 401, 510, 901, 801, Kissbox, and JantyStick. :D
     

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    Hi Hitman,

    I figured I would pipe up here as a Janty Stick owner. I have had it for a little over a month, and absolutly love it!
    Vapor Production
    The vapor production is awesome. Granted I was using a 4081 (NJoy NPro) prior to that, but I was impressed with the vapor production.
    Batter Life
    For me the batteries last about 12 - 18 hours with my normal usage which is 1 session of about 10 - 15 puffs every hour. Now if I am using it as a passifier and constantly puffing on it I am looking at around 5 - 6 hours.
    Other Benefits
    *Built in USB Passthrough!!! I love this! I can vape via the passthrough and charge a battery at the same time. Very conveniant!
    *The carrying case that comes with it is really nice! Its very durrable and holds the JS pretty tightly without activating the the switch.
    *The device itself looks nothing like a a cig so you dont get alot of nasty looks.

    There ya go, I hope that helps.
     

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    The problem I have with the high voltage models is the price. I have already spent quite a bit on the 510's and accessories that I have and have a really hard time spending another $150 on a new kit that I don't know for sure if I will like. However, Thank you very much for the info

    Would be much cheaper to go with a Mod for the higher voltage.
     

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    The problem I have with the high voltage models is the price. I have already spent quite a bit on the 510's and accessories that I have and have a really hard time spending another $150 on a new kit that I don't know for sure if I will like. However, Thank you very much for the info

    I would suggest you do a little comparison. You are spending $12-$20 on batteries for your small device. You will be spending $2 for batteries on a premiere device and the batteries last 3-4 times longer than the small batteries. Over time, the premiere devices pay for themselves. Plus when there is a ban, at least you will never have to worry about stocking up on batteries.
     

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    I have a couple questions about the prodigy. I have read a little about it and wasn't sure about how it works. I take it that it has a manual switch. Does it run at 5v all of the time? How long do your batteries last? I just can't decide. I like the price of the stick but I also like the idea of 5v on the prodigy. I read somewhere on either the prodigy or screwdriver that you can run it at high or low voltage. Is that true?
     

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    I have a couple questions about the prodigy. I have read a little about it and wasn't sure about how it works. I take it that it has a manual switch. Does it run at 5v all of the time? How long do your batteries last? I just can't decide. I like the price of the stick but I also like the idea of 5v on the prodigy. I read somewhere on either the prodigy or screwdriver that you can run it at high or low voltage. Is that true?

    The Screwdriver is 3.7v only. The Prodigy (PD) is 5 volt or about 3 volts if you use one battery and a spacer (fake battery) instead of the two 3 volt batteries that it is ment to use. It has a resister that reduces the 6 volts down to 5 volts because the maker feels 5 volts is the perfect power output for vaping. And it is quite good, in fact it is probably one of the top two PV's made.

    And yes, it has a manual switch so you can heat the atomizer as much as you want. You can use the 901, 801 or 510 atomizer depending on what adapter you request when you purchase it. Or you can purchase all three adapters and use all three atomziers. Many of us feel the PD does best with the 801 or the BE112 (801 type atomizer) atomizer because it is bigger, with a bigger coil and the cart holds much more liquid. Although it really is made for dripping.

    You can't go wrong with the Prodigy. The batteries last from 5-7 hours depending on how you vape. I've used about 10 different PV's and nothing is better.
     

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    wv2win, I want to say thank you. I really appreciate your advice. I just wish that the prodigy wasn't so expensive. It sounds like the best of both worlds. I would really like to have one that I could use at both voltages. Perhaps I should just wait to buy anything until I can afford the prodigy. If you have time to answer, I am also wondering how the 5volts affects the flavor of your liquid? I seem to vape 555 menthol most of the time. Does the high voltage change or enhance the flavor of your liquids?
     

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    wv2win, I want to say thank you. I really appreciate your advice. I just wish that the prodigy wasn't so expensive. It sounds like the best of both worlds. I would really like to have one that I could use at both voltages. Perhaps I should just wait to buy anything until I can afford the prodigy. If you have time to answer, I am also wondering how the 5volts affects the flavor of your liquid? I seem to vape 555 menthol most of the time. Does the high voltage change or enhance the flavor of your liquids?

    Thanks for the acknowledgement, hittman. One thing you might have missed on the initial cost, is you can get the Prodigy without the atomizer and batteries for I believe $95. You could then get non rechargable batteries (rcr 123a) to use with it or order the batteries and charger for less from Deal Extreme which offers free shipping.

    I'm not a menthol vaper so that part would be hard to answer for me. I have not noticed any significant difference in taste one way or the other. I think you might get a little more flavor from a PV such as a 901 but not enough to matter, IMO.
     

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    Thanks again for some more good advice. I will try pricing it that way. However, I tried the link for bestecigs that you left and it doesn't work. Is it bestecig.com?

    I get BE112 (801 type) atomizers from BestEcigs because if you buy 10 or more they will drop the price to around $4 each. I get my juice from Ruyan Direct or Rocky Mountain and of course the Prodigy is from puresmoker. Here are the links:

    http://www.bestecig.com/products.asp?bid=2&sid=7
    http://shop.rockymountainvapor.com
    http://www.ruyandirect.com
    PureSmoker.com - Home of the USA Built PV !!!

    I use the Kent and RY4 flavor juice from Ruyan. Both are quite good.
     

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    I have been vaping with a 510 for about a month and a half and am thinking about something new. I like the TH and vapor from the 510 but the atty seems to get hot fast, the batteries don't last that long, and it seems like I am constantly topping off the cart. The ptb cart filler helped a little. I am thinking about making a box mod or buying a janty stick. I was wondering how the JS is with the classic atty? I think that I have read that it is the same atty as the dse801. Anyway, I am not sure which way to turn at this point but would be thankful for some advice.

    The problem I have with the high voltage models is the price. I have already spent quite a bit on the 510's and accessories that I have and have a really hard time spending another $150 on a new kit that I don't know for sure if I will like. However, Thank you very much for the info

    hittman, you've already been given a lot of really good advice. IMO, if you have the ability to, I think you should try your hand at battery mods (like the box mod). This will allow you to try your 510 at both standard 3.7 voltage (since you're already happy with the throat hit and vapor production) as well as trying a high voltage version to see if you like higher voltage with very small expenses and a lot of personal satisfaction at building your own battery mod. You can use this as an inexpensive way to determine whether you are good at the current 3.7 volts or whether you need higher voltage. Once you've determined that, you will be in a better position to consider some of the aftermarket battery mods that are out there. Unfortunately, this will not satisfy your issue with having to constantly top off your atty. As previously suggested, the best way to resolve this would be to try the 810 atomizer due to the large size of it's cartridge. However, to get similar levels of throat hit and vapor production, you will probably need to run the 801 atomizer at a "high voltage" versus the standard 3.7 volts.

    I would suggest you do a little comparison. You are spending $12-$20 on batteries for your small device. You will be spending $2 for batteries on a premiere device and the batteries last 3-4 times longer than the small batteries. Over time, the premiere devices pay for themselves. Plus when there is a ban, at least you will never have to worry about stocking up on batteries.

    The only thing to keep in mind w/ this concept is that the savings is indeed a long term savings. If an average vaper goes through 4 x 510 batteries per day or 1 x 880maH with both having a minimum capability of 500 recharge cycles, you would spend (according to the high side of your quote) $80 for the 510 batteries or $2 for the 880maH battery plus the cost ($150 average) for the high end battery mods for an expenditure of $152 (and really, such a person would have extra batteries, so you would probably want to add a few more dollars to that number). Therefore, you would not see the savings benefit until after 1 1/2 years. Just want to keep that in perspective. However, like I said previously....a good idea would be for the OP to try his hand at some of the battery mods vice just shelling out the money for the high-priced battery mods. This would be kind of a happy medium between wv2win's thoughts and mine.
     

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    The only thing to keep in mind w/ this concept is that the savings is indeed a long term savings. If an average vaper goes through 4 x 510 batteries per day or 1 x 880maH with both having a minimum capability of 500 recharge cycles, you would spend (according to the high side of your quote) $80 for the 510 batteries or $2 for the 880maH battery plus the cost ($150 average) for the high end battery mods for an expenditure of $152 (and really, such a person would have extra batteries, so you would probably want to add a few more dollars to that number). Therefore, you would not see the savings benefit until after 1 1/2 years. Just want to keep that in perspective. However, like I said previously....a good idea would be for the OP to try his hand at some of the battery mods vice just shelling out the money for the high-priced battery mods. This would be kind of a happy medium between wv2win's thoughts and mine.

    If you can do your own mod, I agree that would save money and get you into a better performing vaping option. A couple of points, though, you can get the base Prodigy for $95. Another point to consider, the small ciggy type batteries can be recharged approximately 200 times (if they last that long). The batteries that come with the Prodigy state on the Tenergy web site they can be recharged 2000 times. There is some additional savings there.

    Good Luck
     

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    Hi Hittman,
    Only been vaping about 7 weeks myself but have the 510, 901 and have just got the Jantystick v2. The 510 has all the traits you mention. The 901 has great flavour and the batteries seem to last a bit longer to me. Have had the stick for only a couple of days but seems excellent. Battery life is around the 5 or 6 hour mark, throat hit is good (vaping different flavours not just tobacco based ones) and the carts are quite large so don't seem to need topping off so much. I'm using the Janty atty which is the same as the low bridge 801 afaik. All is good so far but as I say, it's early days so can't really give a definative answer for the long term. I'm very pleased so far though:thumbs:
    Hope that helps a bit;)
    All the best

    This is the one I am buying next. VAPRLIFE, VP1, VP2, E CIGARETTE, E-CIG, VAPOR, BATTERY How cool is that? I have a Janty Stick, but I really do not like the look. This one, however is exactly what I have been looking for.
     

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