is there a carto without filling?

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mwa102464

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How can there possibly be a carto you dont have to fill ? unless of course your talking about a pre-filled carto which obviously there are ! one way or another the only way to produce vapor is to fill a carto with juice or buy a pre-filled and then re-fill the pre-filled carto !!!
 

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    Yes but these
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    are as bad as it gets
    See all those droplets surrounding them? That's what happens to your juice.
     
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    Leothwyn

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    I didn't like the CE2s much, but a couple of the others that Gotvapes sells were pretty good: Vision and Sapphire. I guess of the different ones that I've tried, I liked the Gotvapes Vision the best. If you're using a slim battery, it'll look ridiculous though. It's meant to go on a fatter one like an eGo.
     

    FantWriter

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    I love my CE2s, to the point that I ordered half a dozen packs just in case they suddenly disappeared as the Vortex (which I also kinda like) did.

    The only bad things, in my not-so-humble opinion, is that they're a pain to fill and there are some juices you can't use (certain ingredients cloud or crack the tube).

    Those aren't serious minuses when set against knowing how much juice is left, lasting practically forever (if you burn the gunk off the coil regularly), wicking even pure VG juice properly when I chain-vape, no danger of overfilling, no flooding, and a host of other admirable traits.
     

    Greeny

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    The CE2's work great for me too.

    However, there's a bit of tweaking if you
    want CE2's to wick & vape great for ya.

    By the way, why are you asking?...lol

    Are you getting a yucky taste from some cartomizer polyfill batting?
    (that's the interior fluffy stuff that looks like cotton)

    If so (if that's all it is), just use a better cartomizer.

    The Cartos most raved about in here are the Boge Low-Res Cartos and Ikenvape's Low-Res Cartos. Try one of each to see which you prefer...both are nice and both let your flavors come through cleanly. However, there are good folks in here that are better qualified than me to tell you more about them...(ie: I've been mostly a CE2 guy because I hadn't found anything better, until I tried an IkenVape 901 LR Atty yesterday...wow!!...but that's a different animal and requires dripping unless you're willing to use an additional feeder system with it).

    As for non-polyfill cartos, the Sapphire, the Vortex, and the G4's (pictured above) are super easy to re-fill, but their performance is lacking compared to a tweaked CE2. With the G4, and its predecessor the Vortex, you must use the supplied mouthpiece it comes with to make a proper seal, however, they tend to come off rather easily which can cause spills (moreso with the Vortex). Yet, you can still get better performance than any of these even from a moderately tweaked CE2.

    I'm also not sold on the "Smokey-miser CE3" due to poor internal design and lack of vapor production. While their tubes are better than clear CE2's, filling them is also more of a chore. Fortunately, CE2's are popularly available in metal tubes as an option, so it doesn't get any more durable than that (the clear CE2's are easier to start with though).

    If you tweak a CE2 and take care of it (clean it after 5-10 refills, or sooner depending on the juice you use), a tweaked CE2 can vape really well for you, as good as a low-res atty, and it can last for a few months too. I still have & use the very 1st CE2's that I bought over 2 months ago, and I get about 8-10 refills out of each one between cleanings. The CE2x (aka: fat-wick/revision-4) by RoyalSmokers are the ones I trust (you can get them from --> GotVapes.com and they're now called FluXomizer Deluxe Cartos). But be prepared to tweak them and clean them periodically if you want the best performance out of them...and they will deliver.

    So, among affordable non-polyfill type cartos you're asking about, the CE2 is as good as it gets. And because of their performance when allowed to wick well, CE2's are also used in the higher performing Tanks like the 5ml MapTank or the nicer 5ml or 2.5ml TorpedoTanks.

    However, if the taste of the poly-fill batting is the issue here (this is common), then you won't go wrong by switching to an Ikenvape IKV Low-Res Carto or a Boge Low-Res Carto which are great for overall ease of use, and produce great flavor and vapor production. These Cartos definitely rank in performance among low-res atties, and can out-perform dual-coil cartos as well, and are easier to use than CE2's.

    Hope this helps,
    Greeny

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    Tweaking your CE2's
    by Greeny

    The key to a great working CE2 is how well you tweak it.
    I've tried many different tweaks, yet some of those tweaks
    can cause leaks and/or are just too troublesome for many.

    The easiest CE2 tweak is simply to replace the CE2's ceramic cup-gasket for the thick top-gasket

    IE: The top-gasket is the same thick gasket most people throw away to replace with a drip-tip; it has groves along the bottom that fits perfectly over the CE2's ceramic cup. For one, (1) it creates a perfect seal, yet allows for optimal wicking without any leaks. (2) It keeps the ceramic cup firmly in place which prevents the wicks from getting pressed against the tube's interior walls. And (3), if you use a really thick juice (like I do), this especially works well. In addition, (when using thick juices) you can also sand off about 0.5mm from the groved-end of this thick gasket for superior wicking, and it still won't leak. Use this little thick gasket instead of the one on the ceramic cup, and your CE2 will wick GREAT without letting juice run down the center tube and/or spittling up into your mouth).

    On a standard ecig or eGo type batteries, the 2.4-2.6 ohm rated CE2's produce more vapor & flavor with those batteries than the higher-ohm rated CE2's. The higher-ohm rated CE2's are better on higher voltage PV's and Mods.

    The clear-tube CE2's are easier to start with (and work with) because you can see the internals & how the gasket is seated on the little ceramic cup when you replace it with the thicker top-gasket. You can also see your juice and know when to refill. This is easier to start with...until the tubes start breaking (which are replaceable). The metal-tubed CE2's are thus more durable, and these come in stainless steel or with a black wrapping around a stainless tube.
     
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    Nomoreash

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    Another fan of the Clearos. They are by far the cleanest tasting, easiest to maintain and longest lasting carto I've found.

    These things have went through numerous revisions and for the most part each revision has improved on the last. The past few have been pretty good but still had the cheap tubes that either come cracked or crack soon after used. The latest revision has an improved tube and some other changes that are supposed to take care of that issue. Gotvapes has those in stock right now so if you want some with the best chance of working out of the box I'd recommend getting those. The previous version to it works great also with the syringe mod.
     

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    curious because i am not quite sure i have found what i need. I am using smoketech dcc 1.5ohm clearos on my kgo battery. they are ok but want to keep spending money i guess lol mostly im having problems with my Quicknic watermelon which tastes like heaven usually but doesnt seem to like these DCC's


    will these work with my kgo system? 3.7v 1100ohm batt?

    watched some youtube on the got vapes delux fluxo blahblah ones and hes recommending a 3.0-3.2 on 3.7v does that sound about right?
     
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    Nomoreash

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    DCC cartos really like higher voltage better so it's not surprising your not getting the same effect at 3.7 with your juice.

    Clearos, Fluxomizers, CE2 clears, whatever you want to call them will work with your battery. If your vaping at 3.7 I'd suggest getting somewhere around the 2.4-2.6 ohm ohm, they should rock at 3.7. Even the 2.6-2.8 should be ok, ce2s are a bit warmer anyway due to the coil being on top. Gotvapes has the new ones in which are called FLuXomizer DeLuXe.
     

    Greeny

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    curious because i am not quite sure i have found what i need. I am using smoketech dcc 1.5ohm clearos on my kgo battery. they are ok but want to keep spending money i guess lol mostly im having problems with my Quicknic watermelon which tastes like heaven usually but doesnt seem to like these DCC's


    will these work with my kgo system? 3.7v 1100ohm batt?

    watched some youtube on the got vapes delux fluxo blahblah ones and hes recommending a 3.0-3.2 on 3.7v does that sound about right?

    3.0-3.2 ohms on 3.7v sounds like it might be a reference to the Vision Clearo Tanks that are sold for the eGo's. However, these Vision clearos will perform better in the 4.2v-5v range. Likewise, the Maximizer/Giantomizers are 2.6-2.8ohm and are also sold for the eGo's but do better in the 3.7v-4.2v range. These ohm ratings apply especially to CE2-type cartos (including CE2's of course).

    For your 3.7v battery, use CE2-type cartos in the 2.4-2.6 ohm range for best performance. For the next best performance, 2.6-2.8ohm CE2-type cartos are suitable but will run better in the 3.7v-4.2v range.

    Though the DC cartos like a little more voltage than 3.7v and would put out more vapor, you'd also use up more e-juice and run into more dry spots, which already seems to be an issue with your DCC from what you describe (ie: is your DCC half-full more often than not? then your DCC will benefit from top-offs)

    Dual Coils generally dry up your carto quicker than single coil cartos, which means if you take several toots consecutively (or a big long toot), you'll also tend to hit a dry spot sooner. The DCC needs a little rest to cool off and redistribute it's e-juice to keep from running into hot dry spots.

    A couple ways to avoid DC dry spots are:

    1) Know your DCC's limitations. Give your DCC about 2-3 minutes or more between multiple/consecutive hits to give it a chance to cool and redistribute its e-juice to the coils.

    2) If it's taking too long to hit nicely again, top off your DC carto with some e-juice. Like most cartos (and atties), they perform better when properly wet with e-juice, which helps to prolong the life of the carto as well as maintain performance. If you're not crazy about waiting a few minutes between consecutive hits, then at least keep your DC carto topped off with e-juice to keep it wet. Doing both however, would be better. And pulsing your hits (taking a toot with the battery on, quick off, then back on) also helps keep those coils from getting too hot.

    3) Since dual coils do their best when properly wet, this also means that XXL-size DC cartos tend to give better performance. An eGo mega DC carto can give you even more consistency as well...and so will placing an XL DC carto into a 2.5ml or 5ml DC tank (if you're open to that).

    However, if you're not too keen about waiting between consecutive hits, pulsing your hits, and keeping your carto topped off (which are good practices anyway), then try a good carto that's more forgiving, like IkenVape's IKV Low-Res Carto (in the 2.0 ohm range). It's a single-coil carto, however, it's more consistent and can outperform a dual coil. In addition, the fluffy batting in the IKV carto is more absorbent, redistributes juice quicker, can go longer with fewer top-off's, and you'll get good consistency without having to resort to a tank.

    The Boge Carto is also a good choice, however, the IKV's filler is more absorbent (efficient) and redistributes juice a little faster between hits and during re-fills. And during the life of the carto, the Boge carto may tend to keep needing top-offs sooner than the IKV's. Overall however, both of these cartos are top contenders so it's kinda like choosing between a tiger and a panther.

    The dual coils are fine for short runs with rests in between. However, if you're getting into some chain-vaping and find yourself doing more of it, then consider a Boge or an IKV carto. Though CE2's can handle some pretty serious chain-vaping, and are better suited for it. To keep CE2 wicks wet, just tilt. For re-fills, you can wait till it's near empty.

    Generally speaking, CE2's are "good to the last drop".
     
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