Is there a way to determine if your ejuice requires steeping? And can steeping make it taste worse?

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sfetaz

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First I wanna say that I had a bottle of orange creamsicle from freedomsmokeusa extra flavor 18mg vg that tasted decent at first. I let it sit unopened for 24 hours, covered and let a week pass. Now it tastes disgusting. I have a newport flavor I did not like that I mistakenly let sit open for a few days and they both have a similar nasty smell. What could I have done wrong?

Second, I had ordered some samples from velvet vapors and liked some and disliked some choices I made. Mint was not menthol but tasted like mint plant (YUCK), while cafe moca was very authentic but abuses the coffee flavoring. How can I tell if any of the flavors I do not like would benefit from proper steeping?
 

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I am new to this as well, but here's what I intend to do... If it tastes good right away, I'll just use it. If not, I will let it age. I haven't removed the caps from my bottles to steep yet however. So far, ALL of the juices I've gotten from FSUSA were great right away, but those were smaller bottles too. I'll see how my first 120ml bottle turns out when it arrives, hopefully tomorrow.
 

Vapenstein

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This should be a sticky. Some juice is ready to vape right out of the mail. Other juice can take as long as a month for the flavors to marry and mature. The only way to tell is vape everything you get right out of the mail, and the stuff you don't love gets put in The juice Cellar and visited weekly until it pops. If a month goes by and it never gets better, it never will.

The key is opening your juice and then recapping it. All it takes is that brief exposure to atmosphere. I am not a believer in leaving juice uncapped.

As a general rule of thumb even juice that takes a while to come together tastes ok out of the mail. I have only had one juice that was horrendous out of the mail turn great after two weeks, but it can happen.
 

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I only let my freshly made DIY juice sit uncapped for a few hours, then I recap it and leave it alone for a while. Sometimes it's a couple of days, sometimes it's a few days. It depends on the flavoring. Juices that I buy are just left alone with the cap on for a while if they need steeping. Coffees, cappuccinos, mints, the "stronger" fruit flavors and stronger tobaccos need little to no steeping. Lighter fruit flavors, waffle, lighter tobaccos, creams, chocolate and vanilla flavors often need steeping of at least a couple of days, sometimes more. This is just my findings and is completely subjective, so take it as you will.
 

VanderVape

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I am glad that you all asked this question because I have been wondering about the steeping method after reading on other posts.

So when we buy from anyone that makes their own juice we want to possibly let it steep for a couple of hours to a couple of days? Or is this just the FS juices?

So mainly in a way this is just a trial and error type of thing to make the juices better. I was reading somewhere that sometimes the nicotine level goes down with steeping. Have you all found this to be true?

And I am hoping that my questions are making sense as I just got up not long ago. lol
 

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Wow, orange flavor left un capped. Yeah, I'd imagine that turned out bitter.

I have a recipe posted on ECF that I recommend leaving uncapped for a bit, but that is the only juice I've ever recommended that for. My experience shows that flavor reduces as it is left uncapped, if you're lucky. (Those that believe otherwise must love getting to the last dregs of a bottle which always seem "off" to me compared to the great tasting juice that was the beginning of the bottle.)

The other side of letting a juice steep that you did not like when it was fresh, your taste is changing. Even if letting it sit did not alter the flavor in any way, your sense of taste may have changed and it tastes different in your mind.

But, as mentioned above, some juice does get better with age. I find more complex mixes to be a required steep before enjoying, but quite a few are good to go as soon as they are mixed. Only way to find out is to try it on both sides and see which works for you with that juice.
 

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I have ordered from 4 vendors that makes their own and a few that have pre mades - varying nic levels although 2 flavors were the same, strawberry and cotton candy... there is a difference, freshly made wins hands down
I try everything the instant the package is open... if some of the flavors are off, bottle gets recapped and parked for a bit to be re-tried at a later point in time.

One thing that all must remember is our taste buds - they will change and not give you prior notice.... and theres a very good chance that some flavors are just not your cup of tea - take me and Wyatt Earp - grand reviews and strong following, while it is good bodied and flavorful I just don't care for it

Shell.... there is no reason for the nic levels to change, so I'm going to say old wives tale LOL
Now if your talking YEARS - just like old medications there is a shelf-life when it performs better
 

VanderVape

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Ok and glad to hear that is a wives tale because I was a bit worried.

I do have to say that I am thinking from all of this (and from the many flavors we will be trying) is in the meantime to not order anything above a 10ml. I had figured before that we would want to only try samples and 10ml until we find a few that we just LOVE.

We live down in a half basement and I have heard of people putting their juices in a cellar, or the fridge. What would you all recommend as we have a storage room under the stairs that stays pretty cool. Or should I keep them in the fridge?
 

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Ok, so no fridge. I know that we are going to go out and get a small tool box to hold our supplies as well. I like making sure that everything is all in one place :)


Excellent idea, works great for me:

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as you can see, much juice, the sections of the box in the middle have spare attys, carts, cartomizers, random stuff like button caps, cleaning supplies like Qtips. Plus room for all my spare bottles, syringes etc. All in one place and very easy to pick up and go when i'm on the road for a few days.
 

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I don't know if others have this problem, but I do, so I'm sure some of you do. If I vape different flavors, my taste buds get all screwed up and everything will taste the same or just blah for a while. I have to NOT vape for a while in order to be able to taste my regular mixture. Like just leave it all alone for 20 minutes or so. Eating also helps to clear out all the old layers of vapor in my mouth and frees up the taste buds, so I can taste again.
 

sfetaz

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I don't know if others have this problem, but I do, so I'm sure some of you do. If I vape different flavors, my taste buds get all screwed up and everything will taste the same or just blah for a while. I have to NOT vape for a while in order to be able to taste my regular mixture. Like just leave it all alone for 20 minutes or so. Eating also helps to clear out all the old layers of vapor in my mouth and frees up the taste buds, so I can taste again.

I am starting to wonder if I am experiencing something similar. The flavors seem to be getting a bit blah after continuous use. I will know for sure when I get fresh eliquid and fresh cartomizers.
 

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I am starting to wonder if I am experiencing something similar. The flavors seem to be getting a bit blah after continuous use. I will know for sure when I get fresh eliquid and fresh cartomizers.

I think the taste buds get covered with layers of the vapor ingredients, and when you change flavors, the taste buds can't tell the difference. But, like I said, eating clears those layers from my taste buds, and then I can taste the real flavors. Or just setting the PV down for a few minutes. Or drinking some water will help, too.
 

Lisa B

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There's nothing worse than vaping VG by itself! (Well, there probably is, but...) :)

I don't drip very often, so I doubt I'll be doing that. Actually, it's a good idea for those who drip all the time and always changing flavors.

Whatever, we know you are the only one on the forum that could possibly have a good idea.
 
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