Also, Blu gets their juice from Johnson Creek. If you can't get it to work, you could always order some liquid from them and toss it into some blank 808 cartomizers.
I guess this is what I'm gonna have to do. I had read a few reviews on the Johnson Creek site that claimed the vanilla they sell is different than what they use in the Blu cartos (why, I don't know) so that kinda scared me off, but it's worth a shot. I plan on checking out various brands anyway so I might as well.
Thanks for all the help guys, this is a great forum :