Is there any USA made nicotine with certificate, not china, india etc

[J MacLeod]

Extracted right here in the USA. I have always had a good clean taste from nic.

Reread the first post.

Hello all. Can you tell me if there is any eliquid with USA extracted nicotine and this fact proved? All eliquid manufacturers that tells his nicotine is made in USA when you ask about a certificate for this....tells it is secret or find other things not to show that is really USA extracted nicotine.

The original poster was asking for any proof to the claims. There are lots of vendors claiming US origin, but provide no means to verify the claims.

 

[Nicko]

Hey Nicko, how have you been? The china vs usa thing has been rehashed on other threads so much hate to see this thread go south.

Thanks for asking. I'm much better now. Sorry for the misinformation. I get a bit side-tracked sometimes. Thanks for reminding me.

 

[John Phoenix]

About buying from China, I use e-cigs and have an Electric Bike with parts and Lithium Ion or LifePo4 batteries from China. I love China for these awesome things but you have to shop around. Some parts and batteries makers for my e-bike are poor quality and others are excellent.

I have to buy from China because they are the worlds leader in lithium battery production - they control most of the worlds lithium and its not cost effective for other countries to make these batteries.

As far as the Nicotine goes, as long as it is listed as USP grade you can trust it. A company can get in BIG trouble for falsely listing a chemical as USP if it is not. I use Void Mist USP grade nicotine and find it's very good and cheap. 11 bucks ( that's with shipping included) for a 60 ML bottle of 60 mg nicotine liquid mixed with PG. That's a two ounce bottle. It's also Kosher.

For DIY juice I would Never buy from Johnson Creek. They offer only 24 mg at the highest strength and it comes only in a 1 ounce bottle sold for 20 dollars! ( and that's not with shipping) . That comes out to be 4 times as expensive as my Void Mist nicotine.

Only crazy people who have money to throw away should buy that IMO. JC should be ashamed of themselves for charging such high prices. There is no way their USP grade nicotine is any better or justifies that outrageously huge price. Their selling gimmick is that it is all done in the USA so they can rip you off more. Shame on them. I remember a time when Made in the USA meant better quality and better prices. In today's harsh economy, that's just criminal. For this reason I will Never buy anything from Johnson Creek and believe people should boycott the company.

 

[tudorask]

For conclusion...there is any bulk seller who can provide papers that his nicotine is extracted in USA? I think the one who will do this will win some good customers.

 

[billypapa]

Wich one is your favorite?

 

[Old Chemist]

LOL obviously not but it's far safer than going back to analogs IMHO. Do you have suggestions re: sources of non TSNA Nic juice?

I agree it's safer than analogs. As for non TSNA nic - ANY source with USP grade nicotine is fine. USP certificate means also that nicotine is TSNA free (to be exact: the analysis must confirm that the concentration of TSNAs is below certain level).

 

[Uncle Willie]

For conclusion...there is any bulk seller who can provide papers that his nicotine is extracted in USA? I think the one who will do this will win some good customers.

I have been unable to find any .. and you are right in questioning this issue ..

 

[Uncle Willie]

- ANY source with USP grade nicotine is fine. USP certificate means also that nicotine is TSNA free (to be exact: the analysis must confirm that the concentration of TSNAs is below certain level).

This is what the OP is asking .. who are they .. ?? Where are they .. ?? and do you know of any that provide the cert ,, >> ??

 

[Old Chemist]

This is what the OP is asking .. who are they .. ?? Where are they .. ?? and do you know of any that provide the cert ,, >> ??

The OP asked about US extracted nic. USP certificate does not certify that it was extracted in the US.
But there are sellers that provide certificates for the nic they use. At least I know one such company in Poland.

 

[tudorask]

You mean Inawera?

 

[JD4x4]

I have checked out so so so many companies saying the us USA extracting nicotine. Usually just takes a google maps (street view) search to determine they are full of S**t.

.. snip ..

Just curious, these addresses you checked were supposed to be labs, or were they retailers or wholesalers?

And with me being a noob, tell me if I'm on the right track here- I'm concerned with impurities in the nicotine solution only, since the USP grade assurance seems to only apply to the glycerine and glycol. And, I'd rest much easier knowing that the nic solution had a U.S. backed quality assurance like USP, but is there even a USP standard for nicotine solution?

I've been thinking about trying Wizard Labs simply because they are inexpensive, but also because of the info on their site (handling cautions) plus they also sell protective gear, which gives me the feeling that they are sincere about safety, and because they say their extract comes from a lab used by Johnson & Johnson. Granted I haven't asked for any certification or for the name & address of their lab. Anyone else asked them?

As for the recommendation earlier about RTS Vapes, their prices also seem reasonable. They say they use tobacco and extraction from/in North Carolina and although their office Googles as a home, that really wouldn't worry me a heck of a lot if it was extracted & mixed elsewhere. If it's N.C. then that's in your state Dread..yes? Anyone asked about their extraction lab/location?

As for lawsuits and wanting FDA regulation.. I'd rather see the suppliers voluntarily satisfy us before we ask for more regulation and cost for our consumer goods. Just my personal feelings.

 

[madjack]

...from the RTS front page on nicotine... Liquid Nicotine

All of RTS Vapes' nicotine liquid originates from flue-cured tobacco grown in North Carolina. For your information, North Carolina produces more flue-cured tobacco than any other state in the United States. With our unemployment rate near 10% in North Carolina we decided to try a United States solution to inconsistent Chinese nicotine liquid.

The tobacco leafs are handpicked by North Carolinians. The tobacco leaves are delivered to a North Carolina laboratory for nicotine extraction. We are proud to state all of our tests have shown from 99.22% to 99.93% pure nicotine.

Our pure nicotine liquid is then reduced by North Carolinians to less potent strengths using Propylene Glycol USP Grade or Vegetable Glycerin USP Grade.

When you buy flavorless nicotine liquid from RTS Vapes, a Division of RTS Leasing, LLC, you are buying a product USA made.

...I'd say it is time for YOU to put up or stop the negativity...the burden to prove them liars is now on YOU...as always, just my opinion.............
madjack

p.s. don't disagree with anything you said about fears of QC of Chinese products...can you say melamine.............mj

 

[chaos-7]

Welcome Tudorask,
I too would prefer to support American made products. That said, as long as it is a quality product, that is most important.
I am looking at possibly doing some DIY so would like to know who makes it in the US also.
Good luck!
Judy

R.T.S. nicotine is extracted in the U.s. using U.S. grown tobacco.

 

[madjack]

I don't know anything not on the page so, I am not claiming anything...YOU are the one calling them out...prove YOUR statements, that there is no US lab extracting nic...addresses/location of storehouses/warehouses/store fronts mean nothing unless stated that is the extraction lab location.......
madjack

 

[chaos-7]

R.T.S. can and have proved their claims. Really Dred, You are starting to sound like a R.A.R.A. talking about carriage horses. Care to look that one up?

 

[madjack]

...well RTS is in the same state you live in so, drop on by and get yourself satisfied if, documentation is not proof to you...under the American system of jurisprudence, the accused is considered innocent unless proven guilty...this means, the burden of proof is on YOU as, the accuser...I don't really have a dog in this fight since, I don't DIY and have been very satisfied with my juice supplier...since YOU made the blanket accusation, accusing all vendors of lying, I challenge you to prove your statements or quit the negativity...not trying to start any kind of argument, imjusayin..........
madjack

p.s. I have no feathers to ruffle and like YOU, I just like to see accurate info...whether from a vendor or regards accusations from the man in the street.......mj

 

[chaos-7]

I think that R.T.S. was mentioned because the lab they use is not far from You.

 

[base234]

Not recommending Chinese juices anymore?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dekang-boge-liquid-kah-kah-5.html#post1746012

 

[classwife]

"As I said I'm looking for a supplier and quite frankly don't have time to weed through them all to find that one or two that might be telling the truth."

But you had the time to dig up a thread from October 2011...

Closing this thread...old thread and not playing nicely.





Edit: Moved to proper forum.