issue with "check atomizer " with new arctic coils!

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Hey!

So I have 2 new packs of .5ohm coils for my horizon Arctic subtank.
I love the beast!

However. I swapped new coil in and it was fine for a week. Then swapped another new one from the pack.. However it said check atomizer… so I thought maybe I got a dud. so I tried 3 more from both packs and they had the same reading. I tried on my segeli 30w and my innokin 20w. Both can for sure read .5. I thought maybe the coils were fake then I got another pack from someone else and same thing… I read somewhere to prime it with a mech, which I did and it fires… but I want to use it on my VW!!!!

Please please help!!!

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-Drake
 

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    Hey!

    So I have 2 new packs of .5ohm coils for my horizon Arctic subtank.
    I love the beast!

    However. I swapped new coil in and it was fine for a week. Then swapped another new one from the pack.. However it said check atomizer… so I thought maybe I got a dud. so I tried 3 more from both packs and they had the same reading. I tried on my segeli 30w and my innokin 20w. Both can for sure read .5. I thought maybe the coils were fake then I got another pack from someone else and same thing… I read somewhere to prime it with a mech, which I did and it fires… but I want to use it on my VW!!!!

    Please please help!!!

    Thanks

    -Drake
    Make sure that no juice has dripped down where the atomizer makes connection. I clean mine out quite frequently with q-tips because every so often on my Arctic, juice gets down there and that doesn't make for a good connection. Also, like already mentioned, you may have to adjust the center pin on your mod. Obviously your coils are not firing because they are not making connection.
     

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    Make sure that no juice has dripped down where the atomizer makes connection. I clean mine out quite frequently with q-tips because every so often on my Arctic, juice gets down there and that doesn't make for a good connection. Also, like already mentioned, you may have to adjust the center pin on your mod. Obviously your coils are not firing because they are not making connection.
    I tired that before =/
    It still works with the old coil i used from the pack , i swap between the new ones that i'm trying to get to work.
     

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    if the new ones work on the mech, then the connection in the atty is good... I would start looking at the VV/VW mod as the issue... have you checked the ohms on the atty with the new coils? are they .5? does your VV/VW mod handle .5 or even .2? ( could be .2 ohm coils in the wrong box)
     
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    if the new ones work on the mech, then the connection in the atty is good... I would start looking at the VV/VW mod as the issue... have you checked the ohms on the atty with the new coils? are they .5? does your VV/VW mod handle .5 or even .2? ( could be .2 ohm coils in the wrong box)
    That actually happened to me previously, I got fooled by some knockoff .5 that I bought that had .2 embeded on them and the font was smaller than the authentic and those sucked, with those it read low resistance. And with the new .5s , ONE worked fine on my vw. So its strange. On my mech it has to be screwed in at a weird angle and not fully sit flush, and it doesn't make a connection each hit. So its hit or miss. I have a herkules and Delta 2 that work great. So this is a mystery Because I love the Arctic. I might just buy a new one. Maybe mine is getting faulty :/
     

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    Like I said before, obviously your coils are not getting current flow from your vw mod. There is an open circuit somewhere. If the same coil works in the same tank (arctic) on a mech mod but not on a vw mod then this indicates that the mod is the issue, or a connection of that SPECIFIC tank to the mod. Then the only other two possibilities left are that the ARCTIC tank is not making connection with the mod ( center pos pin not connecting properly, negative 510 threads dirty, atomizer not connecting, or some microscopic size tolerance being off on the Arctic connection) . The other possibility that is that you have something inside the mod that is causing an open connection........... If you have a spare tank (which you say you do) then try to attach it to the mod and see if it fires. If it fires then you will know that the mod is still capable of firing. If it fires on a different tank then I would suggest that you take a look at the specs of your vw mod(s) and see what the lowest rated coils that it is designed for. You may be trying to use coils that have too low of a resistance for what your mod is designed for. Your mod will only fire coils that do not go below or above a certain allowed minimum and maximum.

    I highly doubt that your coils are the problem because you claim that you tried the coils in a couple of other mods and the resistance values registered and read properly. Also, you say you obtained coils from a friend and they are from a total different batch of coils. So, you can pretty much rule the coils out..........

    I have never had one single problem with my Arctic (I love it too) but that matters little. You sound like you have messed with OCC coils for awhile as well as tanks, mods and the like........... At first it seems logical that something is up with your mod but after seeing the recent post that you just posted then I am fairly certain that it is your tank.......... For some reason your atomizers inside the tank are not making connection. It's not the atomizers themselves because you have tried plenty of them and from different batches. You say the coils used to work in your Arctic and that they don't now. This would indicate that something has slightly shifted or changed over time... More than likely heat has caused the metal to warp over time and the coil heads are no longer able to make proper contact inside the tank. That would be my best guess since I do not have your setup in my hands in order to troubleshoot it.

    EDIT: The only problem with the faulty atomizer connection theory is that you say the arctic works on a mech............ This would indicate more of a problem with the 510 connection area instead of the atomizer area. Maybe somehow the 510 area has come slightly off tolerance and is not making proper contact. When I was in electronics I used to deal with problems like this on a daily basis. They are easily solvable by the process of elimination. But on a forum via posts, it's very difficult to troubleshoot something that is not physically in my hands. All as we can do is provide you with things to checkout yourself. If you had an inline 510 voltmeter that you could screw into your mod and then screw your tank into the other end of the voltmeter then this would greatly help in a situation like this.
     
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    I'd go with what @AXIOM_1 said, it has to be the 510 connection. Either on the tank (which I suspect aswell), or on the device itself. I dont think your problem is in the coils.

    Yes, the 510 connection could be off tolerance on the mod itself......... I would tend to lean more towards this thinking because the op stated that the arctic works on other mods. I don't think it is an issue with the op using too low or high resistance coils because it was stated that those coils used to work great on that mod. If I were the op and didn't have a bunch of electronic test equipment (which I have) then I would try lots of different tanks (with the proper coils) on the mod. If all of them fired properly, then I would take a very close look at the 510 connection on the tank itself. If however some of the tanks don't work then the 510 connection on the mod is the culprit.
     
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    The only other possibility is that the op is just placing wrong resistance coils into the tank.......... I seriously doubt that anything is physically wrong with the coils because they read just fine on the other mods that they were tried on........ So, if they are physically fine, then the other "most likely" thing left is that the coils are of the wrong value resistance............ But, if the op has been messing around with hardware "as it seems" then I am quite sure the op knows about maximum and minimum coils rating for mods. So, if the op is more than likely using the proper rated coils, then this brings us full circle back to the 510 connection. Of course there is also the possibility that the tolerances of the components on the circuit board have drifted and the mod only will fire on some strange resistance..... But we wont know that until the op lets us know if the vw mod that he wants to use it on is firing other tanks properly.
     
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    The only other possibility is that the op is just placing wrong resistance coils into the tank.......... I seriously doubt that anything is physically wrong with the coils because they read just fine on the other mods that they were tried on........ So, if they are physically fine, then the other "most likely" thing left is that the coils are of the wrong value resistance............ But, if the op has been messing around with hardware "as it seems" then I am quite sure the op knows about maximum and minimum coils rating for mods. So, if the op is more than likely using the proper rated coils, then this brings us full circle back to the 510 connection. Of course there is also the possibility that the tolerances of the components on the circuit board have drifted and the mod only will fire on some strange resistance..... But we wont know that until the op lets us know if the vw mod that he wants to use it on is firing other tanks properly.

    I was also wandering if the centre pin on the coil itself (I never used this tank myself), can be pulled down a nudge but the same problem on so many coils is unlikely. When I read the OP it did seem likely the 510 connection either on the mod or the tank itself.
     

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    I was also wandering if the centre pin on the coil itself (I never used this tank myself), can be pulled down a nudge but the same problem on so many coils is unlikely. When I read the OP it did seem likely the 510 connection either on the mod or the tank itself.

    No offense to the op but things were worded in a sort of confusing way that made it difficult to see what the op was driving at.
    Yes, the center pin on the atomizer can be pulled out just a tad but then that doesn't really make any sense either because the op stated that the tank worked on the mech mod. So, the fact that it worked on the mech mod would indicate that the center pins on the coil are sitting just fine and have little to do with the connection problem. Another weird thing is that the op stated that the coils read properly on a couple of other vw mods. But what I want to know is if the tank fired and worked on those other mods as the op never said anything about that. Something is "strange" in Denmark (hint)
     
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    Something is "strange" in Denmark (hint)
    ;)

    Sometimes I see these problems where seemingly nothing is a fix. Just one of those weird things I guess, vape gremlins maybe :):) your correct the op did say it worked on other devices... Maybe a dirty 510 on the mod or vape gremling. :rolleyes::2c:
     

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    Hey, SO I just got my Clouper GT 80 TC today. The thing is a beast with my herkules and delta 2. So I popped my ARCTIC (With the NEW coils i've been talking about)onto my new clouper and I got the "check atomizer" again...Popped in a new .2 coil and it worked great! Then I swapped it with an old .5 coil on it and it still great. STILL! the new (.5)coils from three packs all say "Check atomizer" so I am purchasing a new arctic tank to see if that's the culprit. In case you misunderstood my previous post, I tired the new coils in the arctic on 3 different [[[[[VW mods which are all .1ohm compatible) with the same error message, then I tried my Delta2 and Herkules again and it read and worked fine. My old coils (.5 and .2 STILL work on all mods) The new coils don't work at all on any, besides one coil SEmi working on my mech at an unfastened awkward angle, only firing properly 1 out of 8 triggers.

    It is an anomaly truly. I appreciate your advice everyone, seriously. It's helped me not feel so crazy ha. (=
     

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    No offense to the op but things were worded in a sort of confusing way that made it difficult to see what the op was driving at.
    Yes, the center pin on the atomizer can be pulled out just a tad but then that doesn't really make any sense either because the op stated that the tank worked on the mech mod. So, the fact that it worked on the mech mod would indicate that the center pins on the coil are sitting just fine and have little to do with the connection problem. Another weird thing is that the op stated that the coils read properly on a couple of other vw mods. But what I want to know is if the tank fired and worked on those other mods as the op never said anything about that. Something is "strange" in Denmark (hint)
    Axiom, I appreciate your advice, However, I feel that you are appearing to talk to me as if I have no idea what I am doing... I opened this post for help,advice and suggestions, however to belittle me is not appreciated.
     

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    Ok I found something sketchy, I pulled out the coils from my old one that came with the pack(left) , and one of the new ones that doesnt work om the right…

    The left looks wrapped and proper, the one on the write looks like someone's failed attempt. Any suggestions?

    The guy I got in from on ebay sold a bunch and said there has been no complains.
     

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