iStick vs Sigelei

[teddykh]

Hello!

I've been vaping for almost 2 months now.
I have the eGo One Mega and eGo One Mini (joyetech).

I started considering a variable wattage device for more flexibility (change of taste, hit, vapour, ...)... and might as well Temperature control..

I'm considering:
iStick 40w TC
sigelei Mini 30w
Sigelei 75w
IPV D2 75w

First, is it worth upgrading from eGo One Mega to one of these devices?
Second, which one do you recommend? Pros? Cons?

Thanks!

 

[AXIOM_1]

Welcome! Glad you are here. The problem with the question is that it is subjective and you are going to get 9,000 different answers as all of us has different preferences. I will however give you my preference and you can file it away into the "maybe" section..... All of those you mentioned are good devices from what I know of them. If it were myself, I would select the IPV D2 75 watt device. It has an excellent and durable chipset and 75 watts is plenty of power for most anything you want to do including chucking clouds.

 

[Baditude]

I think the jury is still out on how benefitual TC is, its so new.

Having a variable power (variable voltage and/or variable wattage) mod is definitely an advantage over a fixed voltage battery.

• The battery power to the atomizer is controlled (regulated) to stay the same throughout the battery charge, from a fully charged battery until fully discharged.
• The power can be adjusted to increase or decrease the voltage by the user, allowing the user to change their vaping experience. Some people prefer a warmer vape, others a cooler vape. Not all flavors taste their best at a single power setting.
• Has built-in protective circuitry against atomizer short circuits, shorts in the 510 connection or fire button; accidentally putting battery in backwards; over-discharging the battery; and over-heating.
• Has built-in battery voltage and atomizer resistance meters to check battery status and the ohm of the coil.

Whatever your mod choice options, I recommend that you research thoroughly before you buy. I always look to see if PBusardo has done a review on his You Tube channel. He does very through reviews, nit-picking all the introcities of build quality, esthetics, and ergonomics of the mod that you likely won't find anywhere else.

 

[Tonkpils]

Sigelei's build quality is far superior to Istick's and IPV's in my experience.

 

[teddykh]

Thanks for your replies!!
The problem is that the more I research the more I get confused
However, it seems indeed that most people agree and the superior quality of Sigelei.
I'll check PBusardo.

Let`s say I would go with the Sigelei 75w, what tank and what battery would you recommend?

 

[Tonkpils]

Thanks for your replies!!
The problem is that the more I research the more I get confused
However, it seems indeed that most people agree and the superior quality of Sigelei.
I'll check PBusardo.

Let`s say I would go with the Sigelei 75w, what tank and what battery would you recommend?

Subtank mini, Ni coils available for the TC features, and an RBA deck to ease you into rebuildables (if your not already there).

 

[teddykh]

No not into rebuildables yet.
What about the battery?

 

[dc99]

Out of the choices you gave the siglei75 is it. It works fine and I haven't had any surprises with it. IPV D2 does not buck below battery voltage. Not really a deal breaker. The siglei30w is almost what you have, The istick40TC is on 40 and cant be adjusted. That really surprised me but not to big a deal.
Sigelei 75w Temperature Control Kit - WakeandVape.com
This should save a headache

 

[djsvapour]

I have a Sigelei mini 30w. It's great.

If I was buying today, I'd go for the 75w.

 

[Baditude]

Let`s say I would go with the Sigelei 75w, what tank and what battery would you recommend?

Again, I recommend PBusardo on his thoughts.

How much work do you plan on putting in? Are you up to making your own coil/wicks (rebuildables), or do you just want to use factory-made coils for their convenience?

The Aspire Nautilus is a top notch tank which uses normal resistance factory-made coils.
The Aspire Atlantis is another top notch tank which uses sub-ohm (0.5 ohm) factory-made coils. Both Aspire tanks have variable air control features.
I believe the Kanger Sub Tank can use both factory-made coils and comes with a rebuildable deck to make your own.
A rebuildable tank atomizer (RTA) like a Kayfun, or a rebuildable drip atomizer (RDA) use only home-made coils and wicks.

Using a high wattage regulated mod, you need a 20 - 30 amp CDR (continuous discharge rated) IMR battery, which ever your mod's manufacturer recommends. The mod's processor amp limit determines the battery amp requirement in this application, not the atomizer resistance like in a mech mod:

75W or higher, we recommend the Sony VTC4 2100 mah 30 amp CDR.

40W-75W = Samsung 25R 2500 mah 20 amp CDR, green wrap if you can, blue wrap is just fine.

LG 18650HE2 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5 2600mAh 30 amp CDR (* tested as only a 20 amp CDR)
AW 18650 3000 mah 20 amp CDR
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Battery Basics for Mods: A Definitive Guide to Mod Batteries​

 

[IMFire3605]

I own the Sigelei Mini 30w myself and been very very pleased with it for what it does and the roles I use it in with my Kayfuns and such, next to the plethora of other devices I have, it gets a lot of usage during the day as my primary work mod, one of my 2 out and about going around mods, and as my secondary at home device. It uses an externally charged and replaceable battery, which was a seller to me to purchase, battery goes bad, the mod can still be used by just buy another battery, compared to the iStick40TC's internal battery where the charger is in the iStick itself and can be used while charging, but the moment the battery or charger burns out, the mod is done and needs be tossed also. Of the choices with the Sig75w and the IPV D2, being the same output and similar features I'd lean toward the Sig75w first. With the Sigelei Mini 30w, Sigelei 75w and the IPV D2, you'll also need an external charger, and you can start off with a 2 bay to save money, Nitecore i2 or D2, Efest LUC 2bay, or Xtar 2 bay, plus you'll need at least 2 18650 Lithium Ion IMR/INR batteries (LG He2, He4, or HB6, Samsung 25R, or Sony VTC3 or VTC4 check Illumn Supply or RTDVapor for the batteries)

As far as tanks, a Subtank Mini, Arctic, Atlantis V2, Zephyrus, Triton, even the Eciggity-EH Pro Morph tank will all suit you well

If it was my purchase today, I'd go the Sig75w, Arctic or Atlantis V2, 2 Samsung 25R, and an Xtar VC2 2bay charger

 

[teddykh]

Wow..What a great community!
Thanks for all your answers!!
I think the Sig75 is a winner..
Are there any mods that I didnt mention that would you recommend over the Sigelei?

 

[IMFire3605]

As far as regulated, there are always higher powered ones like the Sig150w, Sig150w TC, IPV V3, IPV V3 Li, Snow Wolf 200w.

But there are also a couple I'd love to get due to quality and warranty I wouldn't mind adding to the collection like a Provari P3, or SvoeMesto Semovar

But as a just a step up from where you are at now, the Sig75w IMO is the better stage at the moment, has plenty of power, has its TC feature, and very flexible. If you are looking for a decently powerful mod with TC and internal battery, the Evic VT is a decently priced option, and Joyetech has been around a lot longer than most manufacturers listed so far. Best way to narrow it down and lock in, is write down what features you are wanting, then look at the mods that fit that category.

 

[Completely Average]

Again, I recommend PBusardo on his thoughts.

How much work do you plan on putting in? Are you up to making your own coil/wicks (rebuildables), or do you just want to use factory-made coils for their convenience?

The Aspire Nautilus is a top notch tank which uses normal resistance factory-made coils.

Just as an FYI here.

You can get TC coils for the Nautilus. They carry the VaporShark branding on the box, but they are produced by Aspire.

I use them daily in my Nautilus and much prefer them to the kanthal coils. They work great at 450F and 17-18W.

 

[AXIOM_1]

The problem is that the more I research the more I get confused

This is exactly what I meant when I told you everyone would say something different.

 

[IMFire3605]

This is exactly what I meant when I told you everyone would say something different.

Yeah, doesn't help that every week to month a new bling bling is rolling out. Last year, even couple years ago it was far easier being fewer options available, nowadays *rolls eyes* gets hard trying to keep up with all the new devices. Of the mindset I'll suggest something I personally own and use, today's market, bleh I'd be poor having to go out and buy the latest out there to try out, not to mention add an extension to the house just for vaping equipment lol. So lately try to stay up on just specs, manufacturer quality, reviews, and reading other members' thoughts/input of using some of these devices in today's market, then try to narrow out what a new member or someone interested in a device needs or is wanting and give them as many options to look at, more so a guide and nudge them in a right direction instead of an exact target.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome. As has been said, this is a subjective question. The one you want is the one you want. TC is still very new, and so there's no huge data set available. I have two mods with it, and I love it. But then, I also still use all my old mechanicals and I love them too. It's about you, what you enjoy, and what kind of vape you need to stay off the sticks. Of the mods you mention, I would choose either of the Sigeleis. FWIW, 30 watts is plenty for about 50% of all vapers, and 75 probably covers 85-90%. Very few people vape higher than that on a regular basis unless they have stainless steel lips of a *very* long drip tip. That vape coming off the coil is *hot* at those elevated wattages. I myself rarely exceed 40 watts, and that mostly for complex TC coil builds. Using regular old slick-wire Kanthal builds in the .5 to .7 ohms range, I'm usually in the 17-20 watts area.

 

[GeorgeS]

Personally, as an Engineer type person I reverse engineer all my purchases. Starting with:

• Feature set
  • Built in, single or dual battery
  • USB charging (and so called pass through)
  • Output power
  • TC (support for wire types I'm interested in)
• Chipset (sometimes this can be important)
  • is the software user upgradeable via usb port?
• How long will it last on a charge?
  
• Cost

While employing and prioritizing each of the above as a "filter" I'll narrow down my choices.

A $100 cost target might cover 80-90% of the choices currently on the market via a online purchase some local B&M's may have upwards of 100% (or more) markup over the best online deals.

Some desired options can cancel other options out. As an example, I own mods with built in batteries of 800, 2200 and 2600mah none of which will work for me all day but all have USB charging and USB pass through operation. (can be used after enough charge is on the battery to fire the mod) All of which are disposable as the internal battery is not designed to be user replaceable. (they ALL were inexpensive) There are a few options of much larger (2-3x) internal batteries if internal batteries are important. Often user replaceable single battery mods won't have a USB charge port or a USB "pass through" feature and dual battery mods usually don't have this feature at all.

Sometimes it might just come down to how good (or not) a mod feels in your hand. My recent selection of the IPV4S over the IPV3Li was based on how well the IPV4S fit in my hand.

Happy shopping and vaping!

 

[teddykh]

Thanks again!
Sigelei is still the winner
And probably the Subtank min.. But how about the Sigelei Elite tank? or should I stick with the subtank?

 

[LuNar]

Hello!

I've been vaping for almost 2 months now.
I have the eGo One Mega and eGo One Mini (Joyetech).

I started considering a variable wattage device for more flexibility (change of taste, hit, vapour, ...)... and might as well Temperature control..

I'm considering:
iStick 40w TC
Sigelei Mini 30w
Sigelei 75w
IPV D2 75w

First, is it worth upgrading from eGo One Mega to one of these devices?
Second, which one do you recommend? Pros? Cons?

Thanks!

I'd say either the sigelei 75w tc or the ipv d2 75w tc. Since they are both single 18650 mods your battery life won't be outstanding. As far as what batteries to use, I have 6 Samsung 25rs and they are amazing. Got them from illumn which only sells authentic batteries. As for a tank... Subtank mini is not a bad choice, there is a newer version of the subtank, I think it's called the subtank plus. There are many coils for them. Vertical, horizontal, nickel coils, kanthal coils ect ect. I'd stick with vertical style coil heads.

I have a morph tank I got from eciggity and it's pretty sweet.

Ya it's kind of on the big side but being able to use all kinds of different coils heads is amazing. Keep in mind that you'll have to use the coil heads that are the same as your adaptors(Chimney and base's) It also comes with an rba section. Right now I have my morph tank with a atlantis v2 vertical ni200(nickel)coil, it reads 0.15 ohms - 0.14 ohms. At 500 def f and 50w it's an amazing vape. Heaps of flavor and good vapor production.

Soon I hope to get some ni200 vertical organic cotton coil heads from kanger and try those out.

2 more tanks to talk about is Smok vtc pro and smok tct


The sigelei 75w mini I have is just awesome. Soon they will make different removable doors in some different colors and styles.

Still probably couldn't go wrong with the subtank mini or the ipvd2. Good luck choosing.