It is Completely the FDA's fault

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The "study" in the news today about the increase in teen vapers is, if it's true, 100% the FDAs fault. E-cig manufacturers and vendors can not make any health claims about e-cigs... so they are not ALLOWED to call them SMOKING CESSATION products. They can not legally market them as a smoking cessation product like the gum, the patch, or etc. So, the focus does not remain 100% on using them as a smoking cessation product.

This is completely the fault of the over reaching FDA. We need to remember to place the blame where it belongs when discussing these things.
 

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teens are going to vape whether the FDA is involved or not ... it's all about young bravado and the quest for big clouds.

I started doing a lot of things "kids" shouldn't be doing at a young age, laws be damned. It certainly wasn't "right", but it was acceptable to my peers. Leaving out the REALLY illegal stuff - smoking, drinking, drag racing, fighting, the list goes on. Most of us didn't bother scouring the books to see if we were violating any laws.
 

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The "study" in the news today about the increase in teen vapers is, if it's true, 100% the FDAs fault. E-cig manufacturers and vendors can not make any health claims about e-cigs... so they are not ALLOWED to call them SMOKING CESSATION products. They can not legally market them as a smoking cessation product like the gum, the patch, or etc. So, the focus does not remain 100% on using them as a smoking cessation product.

This is completely the fault of the over reaching FDA. We need to remember to place the blame where it belongs when discussing these things.

It's a Blame Blame Blame society. No one is responsible for anything they do. There is no personal responsibility for anyone's behavior when it is always the fault of someone or something else. Blame Blame Blame. We are all victims.
 

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Kids vape and the FDA is responsible because if there were a label on e-cigs stating they are smoking cessation products, kids wouldn't use them... :facepalm:

That's not what I said... No wonder you were on my ignore list for so long.

What I said was e-cigs can not be marketed to their intended audience because the FDA says they can't. Therefore, they end up marketed to all audiences.

While unscrupulous vendors do exist, those of us who have been at this a while remember when the FDA was having US Customs seize shipments and hold them. A lot of mom-n-pops lost big and went under. Among the reasons for seizures, confiscations, and holds was health claims on packaging.
 
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So if a perspective customer asks a shop, "Can I use this to stop smoking?" are they compelled to say, "I can't recommend that." ???? :facepalm:

Actually yes. That's the boat vaping has been in since late 2010/early 2011. A federal judge in FL slapped them down on using US Customs to seize vape supply shipments from China, but did not go so far as to say they didn't have jurisdiction. Making health claims of any sort in relation to e-cig marketing is unlawful at this time.
 

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Actually yes. That's the boat vaping has been in since late 2010/early 2011. A federal judge in FL slapped them down on using US Customs to seize vape supply shipments from China, but did not go so far as to say they didn't have jurisdiction. Making health claims of any sort in relation to e-cig marketing is unlawful at this time.


This is true. This is also why we are vulnerable to "sin" taxes, and lumped in with tobacco in general. However , it's also why you are able to purchase anything in the US today.
 

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Is there a related reduction in teen smoking I wonder?
According to the National Institute of Drug Abuse yes. I just posted about the WSJ sound bite on this. 4% have tried cigarettes, 9% have tried vaping.

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I started smoking when I was 15. I much rather see a teenager pick up vaping then smoking. If they gonna do it they are gonna do it.

My high school daughter had said that that she has seen students vape in the classroom when the teacher is outta of the room.
I don't condone stealth vaping especially minors in school, but I would rather see minors vaping than smoking.

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