it makes no sense to me why I keep seeing people say they soak in vodka.

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Is there some reason I'm missing to soak anything in vodka? Or is this just to sound cool?

Because when it comes to alcohols, vodka has plenty of impurities and is fairly expensive.

Rubbing alcohol is 3 bucks compared to 20 for vodka, and is a far more efficient cleaning agent.

Someone enlighten me.

Sorry, you are very wrong here.
Vodka is much cleaner than rubbing alcohol is (it is not intended for ingestion). Rubbing alcohol is much more poisonous and it may leave residue after drying (so, it'd be better washed out with water).

Yes, you can use both of them for cleaning, but I myself will prefer vodka.
However, I use just water or nothing at all.
 

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Hey, for those of you who use isopropyl for whatever reason, I got no problem with that. But I WOULD make sure to rinse thoroughly in water, and make sure everything gets completely dried out. With Vodka I can just do a quick swish-and-go.

EXACTLY!!! I keep saying this about rinsing it with water after the alcohol soak, and STILL keep reading about isopropyl being poisonous! Gee whiz, I know that, THAT'S WHY I RINSE WITH WATER AFTERWARD!

With drinkable alcohol, the hazard is far greater, just on the off-chance that I might decide to go on and drink it. That would be far more dangerous for me than traces of isopropyl WHICH I RINSE OFF WITH WATER ANYWAY -- I'd really hate to blow 22 yrs of sobriety.

The plenitude of all-caps is for all those who don't seem to GET the 'rinse with water afterward' part. And I wouldn't put EITHER kind of alcohol on a wick, that's just nasty. Cotton and rayon are both cheap, just replace!

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You are making outrageous statements without any justification.

...why you use the more expensive, less sterile, not made for cleaning thing to clean?
Vodka is less sterile? What a nonsense. Vodka can be used for sterilization, it is an excellent antimicrobial agent. And good cleaning agent.

Rubbing alcohol is MADE for cleaning things we put in our body.

No way. It is not made for these purposes. Only for things outside our bodies (but can be used on skin).
 

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EXACTLY!!! I keep saying this about rinsing it with water after the alcohol soak, and STILL keep reading about isopropyl being poisonous! Gee whiz, I know that, THAT'S WHY I RINSE WITH WATER AFTERWARD!

With drinkable alcohol, the hazard is far greater, just on the off-chance that I might decide to go on and drink it. That would be far more dangerous for me than traces of isopropyl WHICH I RINSE OFF WITH WATER ANYWAY -- I'd really hate to blow 22 yrs of sobriety.

The plenitude of all-caps is for all those who don't seem to GET the 'rinse with water afterward' part. And I wouldn't put EITHER kind of alcohol on a wick, that's just nasty. Cotton and rayon are both cheap, just replace!

Andria

Hmmm, Oooooo! I just had a great idea!

Have you ever considered rinsing with water, ... afterwards?
 

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PGA is the best bet for cleaning without leaving an residue. it takes care of solvency issues that can arise is particular flavors but it is not the end all be all of cleaning something you put in your mouth. If the price sucks then you can dilute it with a bit of water. It's best if you are worried about impurities in alcohol and isopropyl alcohol is definitely not food safe for consumption in any form whereas PGA won't outright poison you (consult your MSDS). Just because isopropyl alcohol is used to clean surfaces in a clean room doesn't mean you want to concentrate it on your gear. A few ppm's is pretty different from a straight up rinse in your kitchen. However no matter what you do hot water and soap should be involved before you clean and a triple rinse after an alcohol clean would be a good tactic too. Personally I just vape one flavor right over another but I'm not very picky. Just a note from your friendly neighborhood Chemist.
 

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    All depends on what you're trying to clean. An old 510 atomizer with all that mesh wrapped around the coil cup could collect a lot of gunk, and need a good soaking. Modern day RBAs don't have that problem, and all they need is rinsing with hot water. Same goes for clearo tanks.

    Remember this:
    Whatever you use to clean needs to be juice soluble in order to clean away old juice. So rinse any solvent used to clean away with fresh juice.
     

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    EXACTLY!!! I keep saying this about rinsing it with water after the alcohol soak, and STILL keep reading about isopropyl being poisonous! Gee whiz, I know that, THAT'S WHY I RINSE WITH WATER AFTERWARD!

    With drinkable alcohol, the hazard is far greater, just on the off-chance that I might decide to go on and drink it. That would be far more dangerous for me than traces of isopropyl WHICH I RINSE OFF WITH WATER ANYWAY -- I'd really hate to blow 22 yrs of sobriety.

    The plenitude of all-caps is for all those who don't seem to GET the 'rinse with water afterward' part. And I wouldn't put EITHER kind of alcohol on a wick, that's just nasty. Cotton and rayon are both cheap, just replace!

    Andria

    Actually, isopropyl alcohol is not very poisonous.
    Around 15 g of isopropyl alcohol can have a toxic effect on a 70 kg human if left untreated Isopropyl alcohol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So, no real threat here, but I wanted just to show that for those who have vodka at home it can be better choice than rubbing alcohol. But no huge difference really.
     

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    Sorry, you are very wrong here.
    Vodka is much cleaner than rubbing alcohol is (it is not intended for ingestion). Rubbing alcohol is much more poisonous and it may leave residue after drying (so, it'd be better washed out with water).

    That's depends a lot on which running alcohol you are using.

    Most of the time people use 50% isopropyl alcohol. that can indeed leave a residue.

    For cleaning purposes, use 98% isopropyl. That stuff evaporates completely clean with no residue what so ever.
     

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    And I wouldn't put EITHER kind of alcohol on a wick, that's just nasty. Cotton and rayon are both cheap, just replace!

    Andria

    Andria,

    I was thinking that the heads most folks actually clean are the kanger-style; although these can be re-wicked, it can be a bit of a challenge. I think most people (including myself when I use them) just clean them, wick and all, until they're shot. (Did try re-coiling these; it's not as easy as it looks on you-tube!). For these, you do need something stronger than hot water.

    For a rebuildable, a dry-burn and re-wick is usually all they need, and only plastic tanks really need something like alcohol, IMHO. Glass and stainless do fine with just hot water.
     

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    Actually, isopropyl alcohol is not very poisonous.
    Around 15 g of isopropyl alcohol can have a toxic effect on a 70 kg human if left untreated Isopropyl alcohol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So, no real threat here, but I wanted just to show that for those who have vodka at home it can be better choice than rubbing alcohol. But no huge difference really.

    You know, I think I kinda knew this -- remember the old days of glass/mercury thermometers? At the doctor's office, the nurse would pull the thermometer out of the thing in which it was soaking... in isopropyl alcohol! and stick it directly in your mouth -- so how could it be that poisonous?

    In any case, the thorough rinse with water after the alcohol soak would remove the alcohol. People who keep hollering about vodka not being poisonous have clearly never been acquainted with any recovering alcoholics. :D I'm a great deal more frightened of vodka or any other grain alcohol than I am of an alcohol I would never consider drinking. It's tempting to think well, I've been sober for 22 yrs, so no worries... but alcoholism is "cunning, baffling, and powerful," and one can never afford to underestimate the insanity factor of an alcoholic, even one who's been sober for many years.

    Andria
     

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    Andria,

    I was thinking that the heads most folks actually clean are the kanger-style; although these can be re-wicked, it can be a bit of a challenge. I think most people (including myself when I use them) just clean them, wick and all, until they're shot. (Did try re-coiling these; it's not as easy as it looks on you-tube!). For these, you do need something stronger than hot water.

    For a rebuildable, a dry-burn and re-wick is usually all they need, and only plastic tanks really need something like alcohol, IMHO. Glass and stainless do fine with just hot water.

    I've rebuilt and rewicked kanger T3S and Mini PT II heads -- that's how I started with rebuilding. Once I got the hang of that, and heard "if you can rebuild a kanger, a kayfun is a piece of cake" I went on and got a kayfun, and that's absolutely true, kayfuns ARE a piece of cake compared to those tiny kanger heads -- but if I hadn't learned on my kangers, I'd never have bought a kayfun in the first place.

    But even before I was rebuilding my kangers, I cleaned them by rinse, dry burn, rinse again; while I was still using silica, I didn't need to worry about rewicking, but I finally got sick of all the leaking so I tried cotton, and yeah, rewicking one of those tiny things is a real challenge, but not impossible.

    I did clean those kanger tanks with alcohol, but mainly to remove the odor of whatever ejuice had been in them; hot water just won't remove the smell, but rinse, alcohol rinse, hot water rinse, takes care of it nicely.

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    Vine-gar (and a cheap sonic cleaner) works fine too.

    Vinegar is great for stainless or glass, but it can leave its own odor behind in plastic -- really nasty. I had been saving some old ejuice bottles for re-use, but made the mistake of soaking them in vinegar -- bad choice; I had to throw them all out.

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    Right back atcha! I'm baking pumpkin pies tomorrow. One less thing to do on Thursday! :D

    I'm coming to your house for Thanksgiving.


    The pies are out of the oven... ;) And yes the smell is driving me WILD! I gotta go find the "autumn spice" I bought a while back from desertvapes.com -- I didn't think it was sweet enough, but I have TFA sweetener now!!! :D

    Andria
     

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    I used to use isopropyl alcohol all the time too. Meh. Saved a lot.

    There's so many uninformed people spreading rumors about not using it...maybe the alcohol manufacturers encourage it ;)...maybe it's just not being smart about using it, or an over abundance of caution, or people like paying extra (think taxes) for stuff they don't drink/eat but just burn up or wash away. IDK.

    It dries with nearly zero residue...that's why they use it to clean contacts n stuff. Rinse afterward.

    Anyway, this topic comes up every once in a while. There's posts going back years for those that care. Same result, you can use isopropyl alcohol for cleaning (not in recipes), just think.
     

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    I've used isopropyl 91% for about a year to clean atomizers and tanks. After soaking I give what ever I've cleaned an through rinse, towel and blow dry before using. I think I have 4-5 PT heads sitting in a container partially filled with it now, in fact. I agree that drinking or vaping Iso is probably bad, so I just don't do it.
     
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