Joyetech evic mini vs Geekvape Aegis solo

[Luisa Sharkey]

Hey

I'm completely new to vaping (I'm trying to quit smoking...) and I'm trying to figure out the best vape to start out with. I've done some research and the joyetech evic mini (VTC, Vtwo, or primo) was recommended a fair bit and looked pretty good. They're currently out of stock in most places though.... not sure why. I also found the Geekvape aegis solo and it looked interesting and relatively indestructible.

I'm after a smaller sized vape, with the screen and adjustments (like the evic), and a removable battery.

Which of these do you think is a better option?
Or if you think there are better options out there I'd really love to hear about them!!

Just looking for some real-time opinions on things so I can make an informed decision instead of taking a stab in the dark.

 

[EddieVapes]

Hi Luisa! Welcome to ECF!

I'm afraid I don't have much knowledge on the Joytech eVic but I do have both an Aegis Legend and an Aegis Mini. I've never had an Aegis Solo (yet!) but given how well the Legend and Mini do for me then the Solo would be a breeze. Since you want a smaller mod and removable battery then it sounds like a good choice for you. However, starting with a mod may be a bit overwhelming for a brand new vaper. Usually I recommend pod systems, Smok, Voopoo, Aspire and more have great pod systems for the beginner vaper. Still, if you've done your research and you feel that you're ready then don't let me stand in your way. Have fun and enjoy vaping... just expect to have a bit of a harsh time starting out of the gate with a sub-ohm tank. Once you get past that then you should be good.

 

[Luisa Sharkey]

Hi Luisa! Welcome to ECF!

I'm afraid I don't have much knowledge on the Joytech eVic but I do have both an Aegis Legend and an Aegis Mini. I've never had an Aegis Solo (yet!) but given how well the Legend and Mini do for me then the Solo would be a breeze. Since you want a smaller mod and removable battery then it sounds like a good choice for you. However, starting with a mod may be a bit overwhelming for a brand new vaper. Usually I recommend pod systems, Smok, Voopoo, Aspire and more have great pod systems for the beginner vaper. Still, if you've done your research and you feel that you're ready then don't let me stand in your way. Have fun and enjoy vaping... just expect to have a bit of a harsh time starting out of the gate with a sub-ohm tank. Once you get past that then you should be good.

Hi Eddie!!

Thankyou so much for the reply!!
I watched and read a heap of different recommendations and they all said that it would be better to get a mod so you can grow with it. I did look at a few pen style ones, but apparently the mods are just better and I figured if I was going to buy one I might as well buy one that I'll use for awhile.
Also, a few of them said that you can get a more satisfying feeling in your throat with mods that helps with quitting. The evic was the one that I did the most research on, I watched a heap of tutorials/reviews and wrapped my head around it all. But they're out of stock everywhere I look so I was looking for another option and then I found the aegis solo and it looked pretty similar and more resilient (I am a bit clumsy so that's helpful )

I was confused when I saw sub-ohm, I tried doing some research and... honestly I still don't really understand what it's all about.. I was hoping I'd be able to use a different tank on it or something. :/

Thank you so much for all of your help though!!
I really appreciate it.

 

[EddieVapes]

Sub-ohm is a coil that is less than 1 ohm of resistance. It produces a lot of clouds and thus a lot of vapor. If you've never vaped before then having so much vapor all at once may be unpleasant and make your first time vaping a disappointing and perhaps even painful one. Sub-ohm tanks are designed to be direct lung inhales as opposed to MTL, or mouth-to-lung, similar to a cigarette.

Another thing to take into consideration is nicotine strength. Since you're coming from smoking a higher nicotine strength would be ideal but it is based on how many cigarettes you smoke in a day. The more the cigarettes, the higher the nicotine strength which does have an affect on how you'll want to vape. Lower strengths are good for sub-ohm vaping but higher strength juices and salt nic is not advisable as it will be an extremely harsh hit. Higher strength nicotine is better for MTL vaping as it is smoother, especially with salt nic.

 

[Luisa Sharkey]

Sub-ohm is a coil that is less than 1 ohm of resistance. It produces a lot of clouds and thus a lot of vapor. If you've never vaped before then having so much vapor all at once may be unpleasant and make your first time vaping a disappointing and perhaps even painful one. Sub-ohm tanks are designed to be direct lung inhales as opposed to MTL, or mouth-to-lung, similar to a cigarette.

Another thing to take into consideration is nicotine strength. Since you're coming from smoking a higher nicotine strength would be ideal but it is based on how many cigarettes you smoke in a day. The more the cigarettes, the higher the nicotine strength which does have an affect on how you'll want to vape. Lower strengths are good for sub-ohm vaping but higher strength juices and salt nic is not advisable as it will be an extremely harsh hit. Higher strength nicotine is better for MTL vaping as it is smoother, especially with salt nic.

Wow. Thank you so much.
I don't really care that much about how much 'cloud' there is tbh.. I just want some nice flavours (but lets be real... it'll be better than ashy cigarette no matter what ) and probably a nice feeling on my throat, purely because I'm used to it from smoking. How often I smoke kind of depends on the day, how I'm feeling and what I'm doing. I smoke less when I'm just at home all day maybe 1-3. I smoke more when I go out, waiting around, socially and a stupid amount when drinking. I was watching some videos on e-liquids and they just said to start out with a smaller amount of nic, because you can always just vape more, but apparently if you get too much it can taste horrible and burn; and to just adjust it as you go until you find your perfect level. I was thinking I'd start at maybe 6mg. I figured I could get a few different flavours and nic levels and see what I like the most.

I heard a bit about the different inhales, I don't really know what I'd prefer until I've tried it. :/ Maybe a sub ohm tank is a bad idea... Can I get the Aegis with a different tank? Or would it be better to just choose an entirely different mod?

Sorry for asking so many questions!! Thank you so much for being so helpful. :3

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

The GeekVape Aegis Solo is going to be a lot sturdier than the eVic Mini. The Aegis also has a higher wattage rating (100, not that I truly believe that versus 75, which I do believe). All of the mods' other features are similar; they both offer temperature control on Nickel 200, Titanium, and Stainless Steel, manual TCR adjustments. The Aegis also offers a variable power curve. However, it's likely you'll use none of those features at first... still, nice to know that they're there.

You will be able to use most any tank on either. That said, if you're buying it as a kit, the tank that came with the eVic might be better suited for a beginner... if they haven't changed out the tanks since I bought mine.

Nic levels? In most modern tanks it is inadvisable to go over 6mg. But those are the cloudier, subohm tanks you were discussing with Eddie. If you get a higher resistance tank like the Kanger Subtank with a 1.2Ω coil, you can run higher nic levels. How much do you currently smoke... on average? If it's a pack a day, consider using 6mg e-liquid, and try to vape around 4ml a day.

Also, it's not the amount that you vape that will make the vape taste horrible and burnt. What causes that is either running the wattage too high for the coil in the tank causing the cotton to burn, letting the wicking in the tank dry out causing the cotton to burn, or not properly priming the coil with liquid before taking a vape. Sometimes, you'll get a burnt tasting hit when you've done none of those things if you've vaped through a quantity of very sweet juice. When that happens, it's not the cotton that's burnt, but the sweeteners in the eliquid have kinda caramelized on the coils... you're tasting is essentially burned sugar. If any of these happen, it's time to change the coil.

I have the the eVic VTwo Mini, the eVic Dual VTC, the Aegis, the Aegis Legend, and the Aegis Solo is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.

 

[Luisa Sharkey]

The GeekVape Aegis Solo is going to be a lot sturdier than the eVic Mini. The Aegis also has a higher wattage rating (100, not that I truly believe that versus 75, which I do believe). All of the mods' other features are similar; they both offer temperature control on Nickel 200, Titanium, and Stainless Steel, manual TCR adjustments. The Aegis also offers a variable power curve. However, it's likely you'll use none of those features at first... still, nice to know that they're there.

You will be able to use most any tank on either. That said, if you're buying it as a kit, the tank that came with the eVic might be better suited for a beginner... if they haven't changed out the tanks since I bought mine.

Nic levels? In most modern tanks it is inadvisable to go over 6mg. But those are the cloudier, subohm tanks you were discussing with Eddie. If you get a higher resistance tank like the Kanger Subtank with a 1.2Ω coil, you can run higher nic levels. How much do you currently smoke... on average? If it's a pack a day, consider using 6mg e-liquid, and try to vape around 4ml a day.

Also, it's not the amount that you vape that will make the vape taste horrible and burnt. What causes that is either running the wattage too high for the coil in the tank causing the cotton to burn, letting the wicking in the tank dry out causing the cotton to burn, or not properly priming the coil with liquid before taking a vape. Sometimes, you'll get a burnt tasting hit when you've done none of those things if you've vaped through a quantity of very sweet juice. When that happens, it's not the cotton that's burnt, but the sweeteners in the eliquid have kinda caramelized on the coils... you're tasting is essentially burned sugar. If any of these happen, it's time to change the coil.

I have the the eVic VTwo Mini, the eVic Dual VTC, the Aegis, the Aegis Legend, and the Aegis Solo is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.

Hey Shawn!! Thankyou so much for your reply!!

Yeah, the sturdy design was part of what made me like it. I'm a clumsy little .....
I liked that there were extra features I could use in the future, but that it's also a device I can use to start out with too. I wanted something that would last, and that I'd be happy with for awhile.

The tank was part of what made me question it, because I didn't know if other tanks would be compatible or not. So... most normal tanks would be okay with it? ( I know that's a silly thing not to know, but I didn't know anything about vaping until a few days ago.. )

I currently smoke anywhere between 1-10/15 cigarettes a day... It depends on my mood, what's going on in the day, and where I am. I don't smoke a lot at home maybe 1-3, but when I leave the house I'll smoke between 3-5. And when I drink (alcohol) I smoke like a ......n chimney. For example, I've had 2 today, It's 3pm, I've been awake since 7am and out of the house since 9am. I'm definitely not a pack-a-day.
The burn comment was actually about high nic levels, apparently they can burn? I don't know how excessive they're talking, I just read it a few times when researching e-liquids.
They're all really great tips though, thank you so much!! I'll keep them in mind!!

That's amazing!! I'm just looking for a decent throat hit, a removable battery, and a small, portable device. (I'm pretty small, and I don't like carrying around large things much. My hands aren't THAT small compared to some girls, but they're a lot smaller than men's hands. ) I liked the idea of removable batteries, that way if i'm going out for extended periods of time, say to work and then out for drinks that leads well into the night, then I can take a spare battery with me.
I'm gravitating more towards the Aegis solo purely for its great design (as I said before... I'm pretty clumsy...) the tank is the turn off for me. But I'd be really into the Joyetech evic mini, it does seem like a great option, and I'm sure I could just get a case to protect it more!!

So, In your opinion, which would be the best for me to use?

 

[EddieVapes]

Shawn is right. Since you're a new vaper, Luisa, getting a tank and coils with a higher resistance would be your best bet for a good beginner experience. Something that can better simulate the experience of smoking a cigarette would be a good transition into vaping so a MTL vape would be my suggestion. As long as the coils and tank is compatible with your mod then use whichever tank and coils you wish although I'd stay away from TC (temperature control) for now as that can be complicated and a bit too much for someone just starting out.

Since you want a throat hit, more vapor can give you that but if you're not used to vaping then its gonna hurt and make you cough up a lung. Instead, I'd say get a tank with coils that offer higher resistance and a bit higher nic strength, though stay away from salt nic if you're doing direct lung inhales. You can get resistances greater than 1 ohm on coils for many tanks out there. I'm afraid I wouldn't be much help as to which one specifically as I mostly use sub-ohm tanks and coils and only do MTL vaping when using a pod system. Perhaps Shawn or one of the other vapers more knowledgeable than myself can give you some good recommendations.

 

[Luisa Sharkey]

Shawn is right. Since you're a new vaper, Luisa, getting a tank and coils with a higher resistance would be your best bet for a good beginner experience. Something that can better simulate the experience of smoking a cigarette would be a good transition into vaping so a MTL vape would be my suggestion. As long as the coils and tank is compatible with your mod then use whichever tank and coils you wish although I'd stay away from TC (temperature control) for now as that can be complicated and a bit too much for someone just starting out.

Since you want a throat hit, more vapor can give you that but if you're not used to vaping then its gonna hurt and make you cough up a lung. Instead, I'd say get a tank with coils that offer higher resistance and a bit higher nic strength, though stay away from salt nic if you're doing direct lung inhales. You can get resistances greater than 1 ohm on coils for many tanks out there. I'm afraid I wouldn't be much help as to which one specifically as I mostly use sub-ohm tanks and coils and only do MTL vaping when using a pod system. Perhaps Shawn or one of the other vapers more knowledgeable than myself can give you some good recommendations.

If I put a different tank on the aegis would it be able to be used for MTL? Or is it not a possibility?
I'm not really sure what makes something suitable for MTL or direct lung... is it all to do with the tank? Or does the mod play a part as well?

Thank you so much for all of your help. :3 It's been really useful!!

 

[EddieVapes]

MTL and direct lung has more to do with your coils, as well as your nic strength. High nic levels will be kinda harsh, if not painful, to direct lung inhale. Most mods can accept a whole host of different tanks and coils. Your mod only comes into play mostly when it comes to more advanced things like TC, power curves, bypassing, etc. For now, you don't need to worry about that stuff.

To answer your question directly: yes, you can use different tanks on the Aegis Solo. I have both an Aegis Mini kit (a kit usually means it comes with both a mod and a tank) and the Aegis Legend mod and I never use the included tank. I always use my HorizonTech Falcon King with M-Dual coils, no matter which of my mods I'm using, whether its an Geekvape Aegis Legend, Aegis Mini, Voopoo Drag, Drag 2, Smok Mag 225W, etc. All different mods and yet I can use my same Falcon King sub-ohm tank on all of them.

 

[P3ch3]

evic vtc mini the one with single battery was my 1st regulated device, sold it to a friend, and let me tell that i have opportunity to get another one for decent price or at least the one with 2 batteries and 175W 'ill do, excellent device, decent user interface and also capable of temp control pretty decent,

in the other hand, aegis mods are beasts when comes to hard abuse, hard life, i own a legend 200W one, amazing device indeed, quality, finish and the peaceful feeling you have a water, shock and dust proof unit, the cerberus tank compared to joyetech tanks is miles away on flavor, coils and design, so another vote for aegis kit, also the fact that evic VCT boxes from Joyetech are quite old models,

Since quite newbie in vaping you could also try pods and salt nic, they are ultra portable devices, low power, most of them mtl(mouth to lung, like a cigarrete) and also meant for salt nic, it rushes blood and satisfy quite more faster compared regular freebase, and the most important thing, they are the best complement to vape and mods, but arent meant for chain vaping or continuous time vaping, since nicsalt is bit stronger in concentration of nicotine compared to most ejuices,

Regards,

 

[Baditude]

The Joyetech Evic lineup has been around for 3 - 4 years now. It could be that Joyetech is scaling back production and considering discontinuing them; that seems to happen a lot with vape manufacturers.

Geekvape has been having major success with their Aegis lineup. Their claim to fame is they make their mods to be shockproof and waterproof. The Aegis Solo is the newest edition to the Geekvape Aegis line.

You can put any "tank" or juice delivery device on about any battery operated mod. If the Aegis Solo comes with a sub-ohm tank, you could put something like the Innokin Zenith tank on it for a lower wattage, standard ohm vape.

Take a read of the following two blogs prior to purchasing anything.

Good Starter Setups for a Beginner Vaper
Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping

 

[vapdivrr]

The mod is basically just a battery, so one can use whatever tanks on them. You can use mtl or dtl tanks, it doesn't really matter...dtl or sub ohm tanks have more airflow to them, along with lower resistances. The bigger airflow means more power can be run thru them (also because they are lower resistance, they have bigger or thicker coils). The increased airflow requires a different draw, direct to lung. This is done by sucking the vapor straight down, like smoking a , you know what. By drawing this way, you take in alot more vapor and because they are lower resistance coils with more airflow, your using more wattage , thus your juice usually contains lower nic levels....yes your using lower nic, but also chugging more ejuice... then you have mtl vaping which is higher resistances, thus you will be vaping less wattages and tighter airflow (more like a cig) the draw is more like a cig, where you pull it into mouth for a split second, then inhale. Because of the slightly cooler coil (higher resistance) and lower amount of vapor (still more then a cig produces) you can use higher nic levels. In the sub ohm world, 6mg is kind of standard, whereas 12 mg is kind of standard in the mtl world...if you were a heavy smoker, then 18 to 24mg might be suited.....its not just about the nic of your juice either, but how much one intakes per day. Yes the mg of your juice is important, but daily intake is also important. Because mtl is higher in nic, you dont vape as much juice. Let's say your vaping 18mg mtl and vaping 5mls per day, well your daily intake is 90, compare that to sub ohm where you might be vaping 6mg, but vaping 15mls per day. Both are the same really in terms of getting your nic, but in sub ohm your inhaling more juice per day.....when some switch to ecigs and say, start at mtl, they find the high nic to harsh, so they lower to a level where it's not satisfying, alot of those switch to sub ohm because they get a less harshness and more vapor while getting their daily nic intake, so that's an option. Another option to that is nic salts, you can use it at high nic levels and mtl without the harshness.hopefully this has kind of cleared a few thing up and best of luck to you

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[BrotherBob]

Just looking for some real-time opinions

Welcome and glad you joined.
As stated, the atomizer is more important than the mod., suggest you learn about beginning vaping in order to make a wise decision. Strongly suggest reading:
Learn About Vaping Here - Everything Ecigs - From Beginner To Advanced
Learn What Vaping is and How to Inhale Properly - Vaping360
https://spinfuel.com/new-vapers-start/
E Cigarette Academy: User Guides and Tutorials For Beginner and Intermediate Vapers – Ashtray Blog
Beginner Archives - Guide To Vaping
Vaping 101: An Ultimate Guide Focusing on Basics for Beginners
6 Quick & Useful Vaping Tips for Beginners
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...up-the-vaping-ladder-with-egos-and-mods.5058/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...nk-or-what-a-guide-to-juice-attachments.3230/

 

[Baditude]

If I put a different tank on the aegis would it be able to be used for MTL? Or is it not a possibility?
I'm not really sure what makes something suitable for MTL or direct lung... is it all to do with the tank? Or does the mod play a part as well?

Mouth to Lung (MTL) - restricted air intake on the part of the tank. Compares to sucking on a cigarette. Usually requires much less power (wattage) than DTL subohm tanks.

Direct to Lung (DTL) - open air intake on the part of the tank. Like sucking on a empty straw. Usually requires more power (wattage) from the battery device. Consumes more battery power and more e-liquid = more vapor production.



You can use any tank (MTL/DTL, standard/sub-ohm) on any battery device.

A good MTL tank to use on the Aegis would be the Innokin Zenith tank. Both can be purchased separately.

 

[Vapedog]

The Joyetech Evic Primo Fit mod is a fantastic little mod rated to 80w that is pretty feature packed, very small and stealthy. Does come as a kit as well that has a mtl tank. But has a fixed internal battery.