jumped in alittle to soon but i thinked im hooked.

[ReaperXL7]

So to give alittle back story as i just signed up, i have been smoking for about 8 or 9 years now, i started smoking with clove cigs and then as cloves became more expensive i switched to marlboros. I currently smoke about a pack a day of the black or medium 100'

About 3 years ago i was greeted by a guy from a kiosk in the mall and they were demoing electronic cigarettes. I tried one and while the thought was great, the price tag was not. So sadly i had mostly forgotten about it.

Fast forward now and it seems e cigs have blown up, i have seen various things online, on tv etc. So last friday i jumped in, but unfortunetly i did so alittle too soon as i had done very little research overall. I bought my ecig from a site called victory and at first it seemed great. I get the starter kit for free then after 15 days i pay $30 and they send me carts every month no hassel. Well the cig itself worked fine for the first day, atleast i know that this could really work for me, but the model is garbage, the two carts i used only lasted for afew hours and then i get this weird burnt after taste, they are not equal to 2 packs of cigs, and i was missing 2 of the 6 carts i was supposed to get.

So im going to be sending this back and am currently researching this heavily this time and from reviews and various sources i am currently looking at the firebrand, ozonesmoke, or the other i believe is called the oakley 510. I am still doing a ton of research and digging through this site, but id like some advice on " where" to buy these from and whats usually the expected amount to spend on a quality unit. If im going to do this right and invest i want to make sure im doing so wisely. Thanks greatly for any advice offered im sure ill have many more questions.

 

[Mileshs95]

First thing is first: never EVER order anything free! Second: never EVER let a site take money from your bank account every month!
Okay now that that is out of the way.. I would recommend an eGo twist. It is a good first PV and it has variable voltage which allows you to change the voltage to get the best flavor, throat hit, vapor, etc out of the liquid delivery system you are using (carto, cart+atty, clearo, etc etc..) at vaporbeast.com you can get a twist for 18.99, charger 2.99, and cartos between $5-8. They also have prefilled carto flavor samples for 2.50. And all of this is free shipping in the US along with excellent customer service.

 

[hrlw817]

Welcome to the ECF! Those carts that "say" they will "last" 2 packs of cigs is not what you'll get out of them. More like each cart is like 2 or 3 cigs (at least in my vaping world) and once they are out of juice, they will have a burnt taste.

There are tons of e-cig sites you can dig through, but, I'm sure someone will be along soon to give you a good place to start. The place I use isn't a forum supplier, so I can't mention them.

 

[Mileshs95]

Welcome to the ECF! Those carts that "say" they will "last" 2 packs of cigs is not what you'll get out of them. More like each cart is like 2 or 3 cigs (at least in my vaping world) and once they are out of juice, they will have a burnt taste.

There are tons of e-cig sites you can dig through, but, I'm sure someone will be along soon to give you a good place to start. The place I use isn't a forum supplier, so I can't mention them.

can you pm your site? just curious

 

[Yota]

Welcome from a new user. Have to agree with Mileshs95 on the eGo. I got myself a eGo c twist with a ce4 long wick tank. Works great and am happy with it so far. I didnt really want to go with the cartos though as you have to keep buying new ones and like a cig .... it's going to go in the trash. Bottle of juice last longer and is cheaper in the long run.

 

[cedric212]

Oaklay 510? So you're looking for a cigarette sized ecig? If that's the case, you might want to look into purchasing a Volt starter kit at Smokeless Image here. Use coupon code WelLABRDY12 for 22% off during Labor's Day weekend. Having said that, you might want to explore other larger ecig options as they have better functionality/battery capacity than a cigarette sized ecig (my setup consist of Ego Twist + Vivi Nova). ShogaNinja's Handbook for Vapers found here is a good read for novice vapers. Welcome to ECF and good luck~

 

[Mileshs95]

Not to knock smokeless image, they are a great supplier.. but most ecig "attachments" are 510 threaded, the volts are all 808 threaded. of course there are adapters for everything, but that can be a hassle.

 

[hrlw817]

can you pm your site? just curious

I'm not sure, I did send a PM to one of the mods asking and until I get an answer back, I better not even try to PM the site.

 

[PTPA]

I've been impressed with my Blu and my Volcano setups, and from what I can tell, Volts have quite the following here. The Volts are a different threading than what I've seen as the most popular carto threading (Volts are 808 I believe, whereas if you want to venture out beyond cartos that Smokeless Image sells for the Volt, a lot of those are going to be 510) - there are adapters, but just an FYI on that.

Blu and Volcano are 510.

I think the key thing to remember is: yes, do your research, look on this forum for some thoughts, etc. However, if you're looking for a mini at this time (cigarette size/look alike), then at the end of the day - so long as you use a reputable supplier and end up with a well-known brand name - the differences between models are going to be somewhat negligible.

Take my Blu and Volcano for instance, the differences as far as I can tell are roughly:
- The Blu batteries last a bit longer, because I have the slightly larger Blu 100s vs the entry-level Volcano 88mm.
- The Blu batteries have a...yep, blue... light at the end that lights up when I draw on it, my Volcano batteries have a purple light (I believe if you get them as a part of a starter kit, the lights on the Volcano batteries are red)
- The Blu batteries have a smooth finish for the exterior paint job, while the Volcano batteries have "ribs" painted on them, to resemble the lines seen on some cigarette papers.

I'd personally disregard the calls to go with a bigger battery such as the eGo or what have you, if your head is telling you that you want something similar in size and feel of a cigarette. The folks suggesting that may well be right that one day you're going to want a larger battery for any number of reasons - however as a new user I've found that I'm OK with the mini batteries and personally I'd view using an eGo or what have you as less of a "substitute" than I view using a mini battery.

Also, the question of how many cartos to get (if you are going to start with pre-filled cartridges with juice inside) is something to think about. A lot of the cigarette-sized starter kits will come with a 5-pack of cartomizers - disregard the silliness about one cartomizer = 1 pack of cigarettes: that's only true in Fantasy Land. I find myself going through 1.5 cartos a day, many on here report a much faster clip. I started with an initial order of 25 cartos (5 packs of 5: the 1 that came with the kit, and 4 others).

That's about it.

 

[ReaperXL7]

Thanks for the quick replies everyone, trying to get a good read on whats good and bad with ecigs can be alittle confusing at first, but ive been watching some youtube vids from a guy named sean i think from zeecigs and they have been really informative.

@ cedric, honestly at first i thought that i wanted the cigarette sized model but the more i look into it the more i think that may not be the case. From the information ive come across on my own after my first purchase mistake i think i would prefer a manual battery over the auto, i like the idea of filling the carts myself instead of the ones with the built in atomizers. Throat hit i think is going to be important because while it was not terrbile at first the one im using just does not hit the spot. Vapor is a huge factor aswell for a variety of reasons. I dont want a beast though it has to be able to fit comfortably in my pocket.

I wish i had come across this site sooner as it probably would have saved me the hassel ill probably go through to return this one i got, but i take it as a lesson learned. The firebrands seem to get good reviews for throat hit and vapor but i thought i saw a negatove review on these forums so im not sure yet, i know some companies use employees and friends of staff to send in good reviews so have to be careful.

The ego brand is the one you have to hook up to a computer right? I dont currently have a desktop pc as im in the process of building one, but i may have to look into it. After using the e cig for just a day or two analogs taste like crap all of a sudden.

 

[hrlw817]

Thanks for the quick replies everyone, trying to get a good read on whats good and bad with ecigs can be alittle confusing at first, but ive been watching some youtube vids from a guy named sean i think from zeecigs and they have been really informative.

@ cedric, honestly at first i thought that i wanted the cigarette sized model but the more i look into it the more i think that may not be the case. From the information ive come across on my own after my first purchase mistake i think i would prefer a manual battery over the auto, i like the idea of filling the carts myself instead of the ones with the built in atomizers. Throat hit i think is going to be important because while it was not terrbile at first the one im using just does not hit the spot. Vapor is a huge factor aswell for a variety of reasons. I wish i had come across this site sooner as it probably would have saved me the hassel ill probably go through to return this one i got, but i take it as a lesson learned. The firebrands seem to get good reviews for throat hit and vapor but i thought i saw a negatove review on these forums so im not sure yet, i know some companies use employees and friends of staff to send in good reviews so have to be careful.

The ego brand is the one you have to hook up to a computer right? I dont currently have a desktop pc as im in the process of building one, but i may have to look into it. After using the e cig for just a day or two analogs taste like crap all of a sudden.

The eGo batteries can be charged with a wall adapter as well. I would actually recommend you charge your PV or e-cig that way. I never charge anything off of a computer. Like many have said here, a battery or charger is cheaper than frying your computer, which if a short occurs, it more than likely will damage a computer.

You may have to do some trial and error to see what you will like best with vaping. I started with the cig look a likes, vaped on those for close to a year, then moved up to an eGo-c because the "gas station" carts were getting expensive, ($15 for 5 carts and I was buying those every other day) and like I mentioned in my other post, those carts do not last a full pack of regular cigs.

Throat hit will also depend on the level of nic in your juice. I started with 16mg, now down to 8mg, and noticed a loss of throat hit, which is ok with me. I never really cared for the throat hit anyway.

 

[Mileshs95]

Thanks for the quick replies everyone, trying to get a good read on whats good and bad with ecigs can be alittle confusing at first, but ive been watching some youtube vids from a guy named sean i think from zeecigs and they have been really informative.

@ cedric, honestly at first i thought that i wanted the cigarette sized model but the more i look into it the more i think that may not be the case. From the information ive come across on my own after my first purchase mistake i think i would prefer a manual battery over the auto, i like the idea of filling the carts myself instead of the ones with the built in atomizers. Throat hit i think is going to be important because while it was not terrbile at first the one im using just does not hit the spot. Vapor is a huge factor aswell for a variety of reasons. I dont want a beast though it has to be able to fit comfortably in my pocket.

I wish i had come across this site sooner as it probably would have saved me the hassel ill probably go through to return this one i got, but i take it as a lesson learned. The firebrands seem to get good reviews for throat hit and vapor but i thought i saw a negatove review on these forums so im not sure yet, i know some companies use employees and friends of staff to send in good reviews so have to be careful.

The ego brand is the one you have to hook up to a computer right? I dont currently have a desktop pc as im in the process of building one, but i may have to look into it. After using the e cig for just a day or two analogs taste like crap all of a sudden.

All cartomizers have built in attys, even the ones you fill yourself. You do not need to have your eGo plugged in to a computer. There are "passthrough" batteries that you can plug into a computer so that you can charge and vape simultaneously, but it does not need to be plugged in to vape. Throat hit will be increased with higher nic levels.

 

[ReaperXL7]

All cartomizers have built in attys, even the ones you fill yourself. You do not need to have your eGo plugged in to a computer. There are "passthrough" batteries that you can plug into a computer so that you can charge and vape simultaneously, but it does not need to be plugged in to vape. Throat hit will be increased with higher nic levels.

I thought the with the three piece units the carts and atomizers where seperate pieces? Or are those called something different?

 

[Yota]

got ninja'd

 

[hrlw817]

Dont need to hook a eGo up to a computer. You just need to use a usb charging adapter for ubs cords to charge a eGo. If your cell phone has a usb cord the wall plugin will work for charging a eGo also( still need the eGo usb charging cord). If not the usb charging adapter is like 5 bucks from vaporbeast

Yota, just want to say you have a cool avatar..I work at a Toyota dealership.

 

[Mileshs95]

I thought the with the three piece units the carts and atomizers where seperate pieces? Or are those called something different?

cartridges and atomizers and cartomizers are different. cartomizers are much more convenient, the cart+atty combo is a little outdated IMO. but you can refill both setups yourself

 

[ReaperXL7]

cartridges and atomizers and cartomizers are different. cartomizers are much more convenient, the cart+atty combo is a little outdated IMO. but you can refill both setups yourself

Interesting, thats good information as i was not aware you could refill cartomizers yourself alot of places make them seem like once they are done they are done. The vids ive been watching the guy uses a three piece with a cartridge thats filled with some cotton( has another name but it escapes me atm) and that seemed pretty simple to refill.

Oh one other thing i did forget to mention, if i can get a banana flavor, or a flavor similar to big red gum( or a fireball) cinnomin i guess, that would be a huge plus.

 

[Mileshs95]

Interesting, thats good information as i was not aware you could refill cartomizers yourself alot of places make them seem like once they are done they are done. The vids ive been watching the guy uses a three piece with a cartridge thats filled with some cotton( has another name but it escapes me atm) and that seemed pretty simple to refill.

Oh one other thing i did forget to mention, if i can get a banana flavor, or a flavor similar to big red gum( or a fireball) cinnomin i guess, that would be a huge plus.

nope, they are definitely refillable. just get yourself some juice and some cartos and you are good to go. there are tons of places to get juice and seemingly endless flavors, i'm sure you will have no problem finding the flavors you want

 

[_Damion_]

I think the eGo-C or the eGo Twist are some of the best units out there to get a sense of what "real" PVs are like. I used the cigarette sized kind with the disposable carts for a long time (over two years) and I wished that I had known about systems like the eGo, Silver Bullet, or Provari sooner. They are a world of difference! The eGo has a great point of entry cost and works with most of the common attachments (510 is what I use the most). I recommend it with some low resistance cartomizers to start off. It is a good idea to get a simple atomizer too that you can direct drip on for testing new flavors, this will prevent a lot of wasted cartomizers if you don't end up liking the juice. Once you find some flavors you REALLY enjoy, I would definitely recommend getting a Cartomizer Tank. They hold a lot more juice, so you don't have to refill so often! Which is why you want to make sure your using it with something you know you like. Happy vaping!

 

[ReaperXL7]

I think the eGo-C or the eGo Twist are some of the best units out there to get a sense of what "real" PVs are like. I used the cigarette sized kind with the disposable carts for a long time (over two years) and I wished that I had known about systems like the eGo, Silver Bullet, or Provari sooner. They are a world of difference! The eGo has a great point of entry cost and works with most of the common attachments (510 is what I use the most). I recommend it with some low resistance cartomizers to start off. It is a good idea to get a simple atomizer too that you can direct drip on for testing new flavors, this will prevent a lot of wasted cartomizers if you don't end up liking the juice. Once you find some flavors you REALLY enjoy, I would definitely recommend getting a Cartomizer Tank. They hold a lot more juice, so you don't have to refill so often! Which is why you want to make sure your using it with something you know you like. Happy vaping!

Yeah still doing alot of research into the unit im going to buy but right now i think i have narrowed it down to the ego twist, or the ego c tornado slim from another site seems to be only carried by one though.

Lots of options out there but form factor and portability are things i need to think about as i work in a busniess enviroment so i cant have anything huge on me at all times. The ego c slim tornado is looking like a great possible choice though especially if i can pick up the red model. I know what flavors i want ( atleast at first) so its justa matter of narrowing down the right model.