Just bought a kayfun v4

[xiKUTTHROATix]

Just bought a kayfun v4 clone from my local b&m and I'm having a bit of an issue. The screw just won't trap the wire. No matter what I do. I literally pulled so hard on the wire I almost cut myself with it. Has anyone had this issue before with an atty? And if so how did you fix it if you did?

 

[edyle]

you're wrapping the wire anticlockwise.
wrap it clockwise.

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

What? Sorry but your comment didn't make any sense. How does the way I'm wrapping my wire even effect the screw not trapping the wire. With any tank I always make sure the leads end up on the bottom. If that is what you are trying to say.

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

What Is going on with the wire is, whenever I tighten the screw to the wire, the screw pushes the wire out from underneath it.

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

No matter how much tension I put the wire it always pushes it out.

 

[danca90]

Wrap it clockwise around the screw instead of just trap it.

 

[stumpfreeman]

What the previous poster is saying is that when you wrap the wire around/under the post screw, you need to make sure your going clockwise around the screw, not counter clockwise. Some decks it doesn't matter, but some have post screws that are fussy about how you trap the wire. Try wrapping the lead of your coil clockwise around the screw, then tighten the screw keeping a little tension on the wire.

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

Got you. Thing is, I've done that. Still doesn't work. Just gives off higher ohm reading than what it should.

 

[stumpfreeman]

Got you. Thing is, I've done that. Still doesn't work. Just gives off higher ohm reading than what it should.

How many wraps?
What guage wire?
Diameter?
What is your resistance reading?

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

How many wraps?
What guage wire?
Diameter?
What is your resistance reading?

28 gauge and 26 both just not staying user the screws.

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

What the previous poster is saying is that when you wrap the wire around/under the post screw, you need to make sure your going clockwise around the screw, not counter clockwise. Some decks it doesn't matter, but some have post screws that are fussy about how you trap the wire. Try wrapping the lead of your coil clockwise around the screw, then tighten the screw keeping a little tension on the wire.

I've done that and it still just doesn't work. No matter what it squeezes the kanthal out from underneath it. I have it working now, but I literally had to wrap the kanthal around the screw then tighten the screw. But I can't screw it down all the way because it will push the kanthal out. It isn't giving a solid reading either because the kanthal isn't tight enough. I'm just going to go back to b&m tomorrow and try and get them to switch out this deck or something.

 

[edyle]

I've done that and it still just doesn't work. No matter what it squeezes the kanthal out from underneath it. I have it working now, but I literally had to wrap the kanthal around the screw then tighten the screw. But I can't screw it down all the way because it will push the kanthal out. It isn't giving a solid reading either because the kanthal isn't tight enough. I'm just going to go back to b&m tomorrow and try and get them to switch out this deck or something.

make 1 loop around the screw clockwise and hold the loop
then screw the screw in;; screwing the screw in requires you to screw in clockwise, that's why you wrap it clockwise;



as for a solid reading, if it seems to vary by 0.1 ohm that might just be normal depending on what you are measureing with.

 

[Strings]

I have a no-name clone of the V4 I got off evilbay. What works for me is "lacing" the wire around both screws

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

make 1 loop around the screw clockwise and hold the loop
then screw the screw in;; screwing the screw in requires you to screw in clockwise, that's why you wrap it clockwise;



as for a solid reading, if it seems to vary by 0.1 ohm that might just be normal depending on what you are measureing with.

It was reading all over the place. All over the map lol. Lowest was a .9 highest was a 3.4

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

I have a no-name clone of the V4 I got off evilbay. What works for me is "lacing" the wire around both screws

I've tried that as well. I really think it is the screws. They aren't flat to where it can trap the kanthal.

 

[K_Tech]

I've tried that as well. I really think it is the screws. They aren't flat to where it can trap the kanthal.

That could very well be it, honestly. Trust me when I say I have a LOT of experience at attaching wires, and I've had a few devices that were just horrible to work with. There is one I have somewhere at home, the underside of the screw heads are not only too small to trap anything but 30 and 32 gauge, they're also almost tapered like a drywall screw, so they tend to push the wire out no matter how careful you are.

 

[roxynoodle]

If your post screws aren't flat on the bottom, change them out.

Also with the k4 clones, make sure the #9 nut is tight and that the base isn't wobbling at all.

 

[edyle]

It was reading all over the place. All over the map lol. Lowest was a .9 highest was a 3.4

Well that's definitely a connection type problem;

did you torch the coil? If its a compact coil (micro coil) it might just be shorting out: 3.4 ohm shorting out to 0.9 ohm

or else the connection on the screw posts are poor; when you torch the coil you don't want to torch the lead wires that have to screw down on the screw posts

 

[Strings]

I'd HIGHLY recommend getting a parts kit, and changing the screws

 

[xiKUTTHROATix]

That could very well be it, honestly. Trust me when I say I have a LOT of experience at attaching wires, and I've had a few devices that were just horrible to work with. There is one I have somewhere at home, the underside of the screw heads are not only too small to trap anything but 30 and 32 gauge, they're also almost tapered like a drywall screw, so they tend to push the wire out no matter how careful you are.

They are definitely tapered atty the bottom. I feel that's the problem. I have a taifun gt, when I first bought it I was having the same problem. And that's because the screw was tapered.