Just bought IPV V2, Have a few battery and safely questions. (MOD please move to approriate thread if possible)

[vaperXant]

I just ordered from ELEV8 a ipv V2 50W, I have been reading the official thread in the APV VV forum but I cant post this there, so if a mod can move it there and possibly enable me that would be great as I would get better replies. I don't wanna spam post useless junk just to post there. Thread located here /forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/575643-ipv-35w-50w-box-mods-73.html

First Question

I ordered a 2500 VTC5, single battery. Can I vape it while its charging, and also can I leave it charging for extended periods. Will it damage the battery or be dangerous. Most important is safety to me. Should I charge it separately in a Nitecore(will have to buy one).

Second Question

Can I use it to read ohms safely, or my MVP. I don't have a dedicated Ohms reader yet but I would like to create a .3 build, which is close to the minimum .2. If I build it and the reading is inaccurate and its really say .1, what will happen. Will the safely not fire it, or will it fire and damage my mod.

Third Question

I have a SMOK CATERPILLAR, which i bought for $10, can I build lower OHM safely even though it doesn't have any fancy features like some of the more expensive RDA's. What will I be losing by using a cheaper RDA, flavor or smoke or both. How much am I losing by using a cheaper RDA and why?

Fourth Question (LAST)

And lastly, I use an IBTANKED PYREX(borosilicate generic) cartotank. Will a 2 OHM cartotank by SMOKTECH safely take any wattage up to 50 without any severe damage or safety risks? Also can the glass take it?

 

[Marc411]

1. They recommend that you do not use the device while charging.

2. Not sure, mine is in the mail.

3. Absolutely, the same rules apply to clones as authentics, be careful and use the proper battery based on you build. Remember that Ohm's law is you friend, especially when sub-ohming. Know the limits of the battery based on your build.

4. Why use 50 watts on a 2 ohm carto. That's really not what the extended wattage is for and I believe you will roast the carto fairly quick. The carto should be vaped at or around where you would normally use it. Also, the higher wattage will produce a warmer/hotter vape.

 

[vaperXant]

1. They recommend that you do not use the device while charging.

2. Not sure, mine is in the mail.

3. Absolutely, the same rules apply to clones as authentics, be careful and use the proper battery based on you build. Remember that Ohm's law is you friend, especially when sub-ohming. Know the limits of the battery based on your build.

4. Why use 50 watts on a 2 ohm carto. That's really not what the extended wattage is for and I believe you will roast the carto fairly quick. The carto should be vaped at or around where you would normally use it. Also, the higher wattage will produce a warmer/hotter vape.

What are the limits of the VTC5 and where can I find information on that. It seems the VTC5 has a higher AMP limit then my device so shouldnt I be ok? I would like to try a 3. dual micro coil build.
Also, I didnt intend on vaping the carto that high I was just curious for safety reasons since I like to play around with my new toys lol. Does that mean at higher voltages I should use higher resistance? I have never tried a high voltage device and I am trying to learn as much as I can about safety before it gets here.

 

[Marc411]

Anthony, I am going to suggest that you do exactly what I did and read this blog. Everything you need to know about Ohms law, safety and batteries.

E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

 

[vaperXant]

Anthony, I am going to suggest that you do exactly what I did and read this blog. Everything you need to know about Ohms law, safety and batteries.

E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

Thanks! Will do tonight, So since my batteries discharge is at 30AMP, I can build a .2 and fire at 18wats, thats the MAX because thats 30amp right? Will my IPV2 safety features stop me if I go higher or will I have an explosion?I use steam engine but im not 100% sure on how to use it for this purpose, and guesswork is not good with safety. Also I am confused on how a regulated device related to these tutorials because it amplifies the batteries voltage from what I understand, so things aren't as clear cut to me

 

[Double Helix]

Thanks! Will do tonight, So since my batteries discharge is at 30AMP, I can build a .2 and fire at 18wats, thats the MAX because thats 30amp right? Will my IPV2 safety features stop me if I go higher or will I have an explosion?I use steam engine but im not 100% sure on how to use it for this purpose, and guesswork is not good with safety. Also I am confused on how a regulated device related to these tutorials because it amplifies the batteries voltage from what I understand, so things aren't as clear cut to me

No your math is wrong. Place the locking functions over resistance and power on the steam engine if you're using a VW device. At 18 watts on a 0.2 ohm coil you're not even firing at 2 volts. I'm pretty sure the iPV doesn't even fire at a regulated rate at that setting.

Why are you jumping straight towards the lowest resistance that you can go? You have a LOT more reading to do IMO. But of course someone will pop in here and say we're haters.

 

[vaperXant]

Not because I want to vape at that resistance, because I am trying to find out what the limitations are and how they work. I want to try a .3 for fun but safely, but overall I am trying a .2 in the calc to see how far the device can go

 

[Budkiss]

Before you do anything dangerous or silly may I suggest a few resources to help...

First, any time you build a coil refer to this online "app" where you can choose the wire you want use, the size diameter, single coil or dual, and the ohms you are aiming for and it will tell you exactly how many wraps you need. It has a nice visual image to guide you. It is called coil toy. Here: Coil Toy - Online calculator for e-cigarette resistance coil building

Second, always refer to a Vaping Safety Chart (verison 3.0 is the best one) to determine the variable voltage and/or wattage you should use for the resistance (ohm) coil you have built. There is a separate sub ohm vaping chart too. If you follow this chart you can find the sweet spot for your build and avoid burning a coil and/or your juice. Here is a link:
Safe Vaping Power Chart | The Tamarind Tree

Third, if you want an advanced online resource for coils, juice mixing, ohm charts, battery drain, and finding the sweet spot for your specific APV go to www.steam-engine.org

IMO I believe the IPV2 is the most versatile box mod out there (with the exception of the variant by vicious ant). You can run just about anything on it (if you are set up right).

Hope all this helps. Vape safe

 

[vaperXant]

Before you do anything dangerous or silly may I suggest a few resources to help...

First, any time you build a coil refer to this online "app" where you can choose the wire you want use, the size diameter, single coil or dual, and the ohms you are aiming for and it will tell you exactly how many wraps you need. It has a nice visual image to guide you. It is called coil toy. Here: Coil Toy - Online calculator for e-cigarette resistance coil building

Second, always refer to a Vaping Safety Chart (verison 3.0 is the best one) to determine the variable voltage and/or wattage you should use for the resistance (ohm) coil you have built. There is a separate sub ohm vaping chart too. If you follow this chart you can find the sweet spot for your build and avoid burning a coil and/or your juice. Here is a link:
Safe Vaping Power Chart | The Tamarind Tree

Third, if you want an advanced online resource for coils, juice mixing, ohm charts, battery drain, and finding the sweet spot for your specific APV go to www.steam-engine.org

IMO I believe the IPV2 is the most versatile box mod out there (with the exception of the variant by vicious ant). You can run just about anything on it (if you are set up right).

Hope all this helps. Vape safe

Thanks great info. Here is where I continue to get lost no matter how much I read. I got this 50W device, but all these charts say I shouldnt ever go above 10 watts basically. I see all these videos of people doing it fine and read about people vaping at 19 watts, so how are those charts accurate? Please explain, Why wouldnt I just stay with my MVP? Overall I am looking for a more satisfying vape flavor-wise. I could like to try a cloud casing build for fun, but it seems kindof welll stupid. The whole point is flavor for me. So I am lost, why have such a high range device when according to these charts I cant push it above 10 watts, which I can easily achieve with my MVP2?

 

[Budkiss]

For example. I HAD a Vamo V5. It could only go as low as 1.2 ohms and only up to 15 watts. SO... when I built a coil lower than that threshold it would not fire. On my IPV (which goes down to .2) i can do just about whatever. Most folks running 30-50 watts are using a special coil build on a dripper (not a tank) with a high VG juice to solution (which makes more clouds). If flavor is your thing then operate according to the specs on the vaping chart 3.0. Stay in the "green" area and then go up form there in small increments until you find the sweet spot (the best flavor and most vape combination) you like.
I use several tanks on my ipv2 and run between 10-20 watts (on coils 1 - 1.5). Thats just what i like. When i pop my patriot dripper on and juice it up i can go much higher (but have to drip often).
Does this make sense?

 

[vaperXant]

For example. I HAD a Vamo V5. It could only go as low as 1.2 ohms and only up to 15 watts. SO... when I built a coil lower than that threshold it would not fire. On my IPV (which goes down to .2) i can do just about whatever. Most folks running 30-50 watts are using a special coil build on a dripper (not a tank) with a high VG juice to solution (which makes more clouds). If flavor is your thing then operate according to the specs on the vaping chart 3.0. Stay in the "green" area and then go up form there in small increments until you find the sweet spot (the best flavor and most vape combination) you like.
I use several tanks on my ipv2 and run between 10-20 watts (on coils 1 - 1.5). Thats just what i like. When i pop my patriot dripper on and juice it up i can go much higher (but have to drip often).
Does this make sense?

Yes, Thats what I was thinking I could do. Thanks! I just don't wanna blow up when i get it

 

[Mike Literus]

I just ordered from ELEV8 a IPV V2 50W, I have been reading the official thread in the APV VV forum but I cant post this there, so if a mod can move it there and possibly enable me that would be great as I would get better replies. I don't wanna spam post useless junk just to post there. Thread located here /forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/575643-ipv-35w-50w-box-mods-73.html

First Question

I ordered a 2500 VTC5, single battery. Can I vape it while its charging, and also can I leave it charging for extended periods. Will it damage the battery or be dangerous. Most important is safety to me. Should I charge it separately in a Nitecore(will have to buy one).

Second Question

Can I use it to read ohms safely, or my MVP. I don't have a dedicated Ohms reader yet but I would like to create a .3 build, which is close to the minimum .2. If I build it and the reading is inaccurate and its really say .1, what will happen. Will the safely not fire it, or will it fire and damage my mod.

Third Question

I have a SMOK CATERPILLAR, which i bought for $10, can I build lower OHM safely even though it doesn't have any fancy features like some of the more expensive RDA's. What will I be losing by using a cheaper RDA, flavor or smoke or both. How much am I losing by using a cheaper RDA and why?

Fourth Question (LAST)

And lastly, I use an IBTANKED PYREX(borosilicate generic) cartotank. Will a 2 OHM cartotank by SMOKTECH safely take any wattage up to 50 without any severe damage or safety risks? Also can the glass take it?

I just bought a zenith clone from fasttech for 10$ it's literally 1:1 with a authentic some edges are a little ruff but that might just me if I were you I would buy a decent clone of of eBay with airflow control like a zenith stillare tobh mephisto apo etc if you wanna be doing the low ohm builds and honestly I would say the sweet spot for a vv/vw device would be around 1-1.4 ohms that's the only way your gonna get the most voltage out of your device

 

[Krizzell]

1) You can't vape and charge the battery like a Hana I understand it's in the manual.

2) If you plan to build coils get an ohms reader,if it's too low it just won't fire.And you should not build that low at first anyway.

3) Vapor depends on the coils and air to them.The holes in the rda look small so that will limit vapor and maybe flavor.Post holes are also small you are not going to be able to use low gage wire.

4)The tank( glass) will be fine but I don't know any cartomizer that will take anywhere near 50 watts without burning up they are not made for that.Burnt juice is not a good thing.Something like a TOBH even the clones will give you all the vapor you can handle.IMHO hope that helps.

 

[Krizzell]

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