just needs something that works for a change

[dtmack]

Been vaping on and off for 4 years now. Started with DSE901's and was impressed with what it did (I'm sure you all know this was pretty much all there was then) but as you all know, it was early in e-cigs and parts wore down frequently so I gave up and went back to smokes. This started the process of coming back to e-cigs every couple months when the tech got better...went through wicked Tornado, screwdriver, and am now with the lava tube. I was really impressed with how the SD tank mod worked for the first week. I thought it was the end of me giving up analogs. But, after the first week of amazing vapor and hassle free experience (no leaking, flooding, constant refills, batt life) the whole system went to flames and started doing all the reverse aforementioned likes about this new system. So the tank/carto system is great on paper and really wow'ed me at first, but it always seems short lived. Sorry this is so long winded...I'll get to the point now.

I love the Lava Tube. It's batt life is great, and the vv is nice to play around with. I got it with the lava tank. Once again, at first I thought "this is the change we've all been looking for" but also once again it was short lived. After the first week, it leaked and flooded. I even got the bigger tank, but actually filling it to capacity like it's advertised to do is impossible or it's un-usable. I can pretty much only put enough to get the filling wet...anything more will flood. I know tank's/carto's wear out, but c'mon, give me more than a week of worry free production. I keep having to go back to analogs because I can't trust my product will work when I'm out and don't have the time to rebuild/clean/or unclog a faulty tank system. The only thing e-cig makers seem to actually be progressing on is the battery technology and not the actual delivery system. I know I'm asking a question that has been asked many times, and it's always opinions, but I just need something to work with my lava tube (tank/carto) that I should always be able to rely on. It almost seems that after a bunch of people rave about something, and I buy it, I get a defective one.
I just ordered the vision vivi, and the vision stone clearo after reading some reviews, and I'm hoping they work. I got my eye on their expensive GG series hoping that the incredible diff in money from all other basic versions will finally work.
Once again, sorry about the long post, but I really need a no-crap opinion on a tank/carto system for my lava tube that is honestly a well made product that I don't have to worry about, whether it be expensive or cheap....just want something that work's as advertised for a change.

 

[Hottody]

You know I have very little issues with my tank carto setup. In my experience, cartos last much longer in tanks than when on their own. I just bought five LR cheap SmokeTech tanks from VaporBeast and rotate flavors. I have yet to have a leaky system and rairley have flooding issues. On the rare occassion I do, I just take the carto out and blow out the extra juice, problem solved. I have been rotating flavors on the 5 tanks for over a month and am just now thinking about replacing some cartos, although I don't have to. I also have a liqinator tank and it works well. The design of the SmokeTech tank cartos has an interesting design that hold the juice in the tank perfectly. Honestly I could not be happier. . Here is a link for you that may be helpful. http://www.vaporbeast.com/Smok_Tech_Dual_Coil_Tank_p/a3.htm
http://www.vaporbeast.com/SMOKTECH_DC_Tank_Cartomizers_p/c10.htm

Look at the design of these cartos, you can see how the flang at the bottom working with the cut out on the tank seal the juice in nicely. Just be aware that the LR cartos produce loads of vapor and you will not need to go above 4.0 volts to produce all the vapor you need!

 

[Frankster79]

Look into the vivi nova 2 tank.
I've used it for a week and i'm impressed with it.
No leakage,great vapour and taste.
Easy to clean and refill and everything is screwed tightly in place.

 

[dtmack]

You know I have very little issues with my tank carto setup. In my experience, cartos last much longer in tanks than when on their own. I just bought five LR cheap SmokeTech tanks from VaporBeast and rotate flavors. I have yet to have a leaky system and rairley have flooding issues. On the rare occassion I do, I just take the carto out and blow out the extra juice, problem solved. I have been rotating flavors on the 5 tanks for over a month and am just now thinking about replacing some cartos, although I don't have to. I also have a liqinator tank and it works well. The design of the SmokeTech tank cartos has an interesting design that hold the juice in the tank perfectly. Honestly I could not be happier. . Here is a link for you that may be helpful. http://www.vaporbeast.com/Smok_Tech_Dual_Coil_Tank_p/a3.htm
http://www.vaporbeast.com/SMOKTECH_DC_Tank_Cartomizers_p/c10.htm

Look at the design of these cartos, you can see how the flang at the bottom working with the cut out on the tank seal the juice in nicely. Just be aware that the LR cartos produce loads of vapor and you will not need to go above 4.0 volts to produce all the vapor you need!

Thanks a lot! I'm going to order some based of your recommendation. I think the lava tube I have is perfect, so it's not that bad to keep trying different tanks/cartos since they're the cheapest part of the set-up. I would blow out my previous tank/cartos too within minutes of filling them and just watching all that precious e-juice go to waste, lol

 

[The Hill Giant]

Look into the vivi nova 2 tank.
I've used it for a week and i'm impressed with it.
No leakage,great vapour and taste.
Easy to clean and refill and everything is screwed tightly in place.

What he said

 

[UncleChuck]

I'll echo what hottody said about the smoktech tanks. I've had zero problems with them. The caps stay in place extremely well, and I've had absolutely no leaking whatsoever. I too like the design of the carto's base. The flange has flats on either side so it locks into the bottom cap. I'm not sure if this helps to stop leaks or not (I assume most of all the juice retention happens between the cap and the wall of the carto itself) but it does stop the tank from spinning on the carto like most other tanks I've used. This makes it a lot easier to screw down tightly.

I've never had the Smoktech tanks flood or go dry either. Overall I was very impressed with them, and would definitely recommend them to someone who's had bag experiences with tanks in the past.

 

[Baditude]

Just a "for your information". Those Smokteck tanks have polycarbonate tubes, which are vulnerable to certain juices cracking or melting the plastic. If you use certain flavors like cinnamon, citris flavors, or other acidic flavors I'd get the newer Smoktek tanks that have polypropylene tubes. You can tell those by the frosted appearance of the tubes. These are resistant to the above mentioned caustic juices, and in my opinion, a sturdier tank. I got mine here:

http://www.myvaporstore.com/510_Pro_DCTank_Combo_p/510dctp.htm

Also, I highly recommend that you get a tank filler tool if you don't already have one. Big Daddy Vapor and Phiniac sell their own versions, I prefer the Big Daddy version as I believe it is a better designed, user-friendly shape. They fit in the top of the carto and protect your inner 0-rings from tearing by the sharp edge of the carto tip. They also prevent juice from entering the air hole while filling your tank with juice. An extremely handy tool to have if you use tanks.

Slap-Yo-Moma tank filling tools:
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[Stosh]

Look into the vivi nova 2 tank.
I've used it for a week and i'm impressed with it.
No leakage,great vapour and taste.
Easy to clean and refill and everything is screwed tightly in place.

What he said

+1 for the Vivi Nova, it's the only tank I've had for over 2 weeks that never leaked.

 

[wolcen]

I'm by no means an expert on tank/carto setups, but if you continue to have leaking issues with another setup, I would take a look at the viscosity of your juice. It may be you just have some that's particularly thin? Perhaps you'll want to try punching your own carto's with fewer/smaller holes.

 

[UncleChuck]

Just a "for your information". Those Smokteck tanks have polycarbonate tubes, which are vulnerable to certain juices cracking or melting the plastic.

I'm just curious as to why you would single out the Smoktech tanks? Aside from Borosilicate tanks and syringe custom jobs, don't the vast majority of tanks use polycarbonate?

As far as the smoktech tanks go, I honestly don't see the need for any filler tool. You simply pull the carto down out of the tank until the top cap no longer makes contact with the carto, and drip juice into the tank from the top. Countless times I've filled various Smoktech tanks this way without any issues of flooding the carto, leakage, or anything else.

 

[UncleChuck]

+1 for the Vivi Nova, it's the only tank I've had for over 2 weeks that never leaked.

Where exactly is the leakage coming from with the Smoktech tanks? I have two that I got from Madvapes, and 7 other tanks that I've got from other vendors (I should have got them all from Madvapes because they are the cheapest, live and learn I guess) And after months of use, and well over 150 mils of juice used I've yet to have a single leak on any of the tanks.

I am using smaller Smoktech tanks than the ones previously linked to, they are the 3.5ml tanks. I'm just not understanding what issues people are having. I'm not using any thick juice or anything else that would stop leakage. Every juice I've tried with the STs worked flawlessly.

Perhaps the larger ST tanks are different or of substandard quality compared to the 3.5ML tanks? I have no idea. The only thing I can say, is that from personal experience, every single 3.5ML Smoktech tank I've used, from different vendors and purchased at different times, has worked flawlessly without a single drop of leaked juice, no flooding, no dry hits, just pure performance.

I had many reservations about using tanks in the first place because I read a lot about leakage, flooding, dry hits, etc. But I took the plunge, and thankfully every single tank I have from Smoktech has not let me down.

Is the leakage coming from between the tank and the caps? Between the caps and the carto? It just seems very odd to me that I've used many of the ST tanks from different vendors without any issues, while some people complain of leakage and other things.

Maybe it's a variance in quality between the 3.5ML tanks and the larger ones? I have no idea... the only thing I can say is that I've ran well over 150ML of juice through the 9 ST 3.5ML tanks I've had, and all of it happened without a single hiccup.

 

[Baditude]

I'm wondering if one of the reasons for leaking DCT tanks are from damaged or worn inner O-rings. I have no positive evidence to support this, however it makes sense to me. Many people c/o leakage between the caps and carto. That sounds like a seal issue.

If you think about it, when you install your carto into a tank, you expose the inner O-rings to the sharp edge of the top of the carto, which could and does damage it. This is why I have gone on a campaign of sorts promoting the tank refill tools made by Big Daddy Vapor, Phiniac, and Siam Mods. If these simple devices are used whenever you change cartos or refill a tank, one should be able to extend the life of a tank's 0-rings and prevent leakage of e-liquid during fillups and refills.

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Big Daddy Vapor & Phiniac's tank filler tools

 

[Wishdog]

They aren't tanks, but if you're going back to analogs due to hardware issues, I suggest CE3s. They're tough enough you can carry a few spares in your pocket (I do, with my keys) and they're replacable. They aren't polycarbonate so cinnamon/citrus/licorice won't crack them. Also called the Phoenix. NOT the same thing as the CE3 Smokymizer.

$10ish for five, when you can find them in stock.

Oh, but they're a little ugly. Eh, life is rough.

 

[SpringzVz]

+1 Vivi nova, and get a MEGA DCC to back it up