Just vaped for first time

[ptsnipes]

Hi everyone,

I got home from work today, and my 510 was waiting in the mailbox for me. So, I brought it inside and started charging the batteries. After waiting for 8 hours, it was finally time to put it to use. I used it for the first time and I was a little...underwhelmed. I bought a small sample pack of flavors and tried a little of each one. The flavors were there, but barely. I was just curious if this was a byproduct of smoking and not being able to taste all that well anyway, buying a small pv like a 510, or something else? Also, my first thought after vaping was "man, I could really use a cigarette." I'm assuming I probably need to step up the nicotine. The sample pack was all in 18mg strength. Also, on Monday I'm getting another delivery, 10 new flavors from a different vendor and some cartos to try instead of a cartridge and atty. Will this make a difference in flavor and amount of vapor?

Thanks in advance

 

[brandontrjn]

You'll start being able to taste it better after a month or 2. But I could taste the flavors pretty well to begin with. Who did you order from?

 

[ptsnipes]

You'll start being able to taste it better after a month or 2. But I could taste the flavors pretty well to begin with. Who did you order from?

I ordered from DesertVapes. About the only flavor I really noticed was the menthol flavor in that liguid. The RY4 and 555 had a very faint taste of...something. And I had a marlboro type flavor that really wasn't much besides maybe a slightly sweet taste.

 

[TonyTT]

cartomizers will definetely help with the flavour... (Boge cartos are good). Another thing you should probably do is take one of your cartidges, take out the filling, and drip 2-3 drops on the atty, and put the mouthpiece cart part on...and take 2-4 drags. (5 second explanation of dripping). The point of this is so you can have a good idea of how full the flavour of the juice you're vaping can be. Dripping is designed for you to get the most flavour, but a full carto shouldn't be far of. If you sample your flavours this way, you'll have a good idea of what it's supposed to taste like and if the problem is that you're cartidge system is just giving you hot air. If you drip and don't taste anything, either your juice has no flavour (maybe it's just bad, OR it needs to steep). Or from quitting smoking, your tastebuds need to come back (drink lots of water). Please keep us updated, and welcome to ECF

 

[Hottody]

I must say that once I graduated from a standard 510 ecig kit and started to use low resistant Boge caromizers with a tank system the flavors started to explode. I think you will find LR cartos will help a lot when using a 3.7 volt device! The tank just made the flavor better for me! Also, variable volt devices will really allow you to dial in the flavor so you feel an explosion of flavor. So hang in their and don't give up, because once you find your sweet spot you will be sooo happy!!! In the meantime give the device you have a little more time!

 

[Sweeney Todd]

Sometimes I have days I can barely taste the flavors. Dry mouth makes it worse, and vaping dehydrates you, so there's that to watch for. And yeah, your taste buds will recover in time. Make sure to try several vendors when you get your sample juices; I've noticed certain vendors just don't work for my taste buds and others work great.

 

[elfstone]

I have part of this problem too - I cannot identify the gustatory flavor. It tastes like... something. There is smell, fragrance in the vapor, and mostly on the exhale. And that is strong, and pleasant and usually identifiable (for most of the few juices I tried, at least). So I'm very intrigued by all these reviewers who can describe the juices in so many words... Anyway, do you guys actually taste the vapor?

 

[SeamonsterZ24]

I know one thing I had to overcome was the fact that the burning plant matter taste was missing. It was actually hard at first, but I now enjoy plenty of juices. This isn't very economical since you just got your device, but higher volt vaping mimics smoking so much better in my opinion. 5 volts, 6 volts, or a variable voltage devices are all my main PV's now. I think it's because the vapor is nice and warm much like that of a analog.

 

[Theken]

I disagree with the statement about Cartomizers help with flavor, for me it is directly dripping into the atomizer for best taste. Cartomizers and tanks are great when on the move (don't drip and drive). I would look into some of the more premium juices from online vendors like: FreedomSmokeUSA (freedomsmokeusa.com) or Ms. T's Bakery (mstsbakery.com). If you are "underwhelmed" with the nicotine levels, adjust them (I use 30mg atm). If you are unhappy with the smoke produced (adjust your levels of vg (Vegetable Glycerin). I first tried an e-cig (green nicotine) nearly a year ago and found it to be a horrible loss of money and time (made the mistake of buying from a mall kiosk).

Find what works well for you, I would personally recommend using atomizers and dripping directly (if you are able), or invest in a good tank mod (liquinator works well, madvapes.com has some great tank mods for like $10). To me, cartomizers are very hit and miss, I get horrible taste from about half of the ones I have tried (i've tried a lot).

Most importantly, don't give up on giving up tobacco products. I quit a 20+ year habit of smoking 1-2 packs a day, several of my friends have quit as well (smoking and dipping) with the use of e-cigs. If you are interested in more information, feel free to message me anytime.

 

[ptsnipes]

cartomizers will definetely help with the flavour... (Boge cartos are good). Another thing you should probably do is take one of your cartidges, take out the filling, and drip 2-3 drops on the atty, and put the mouthpiece cart part on...and take 2-4 drags. (5 second explanation of dripping). The point of this is so you can have a good idea of how full the flavour of the juice you're vaping can be. Dripping is designed for you to get the most flavour, but a full carto shouldn't be far of. If you sample your flavours this way, you'll have a good idea of what it's supposed to taste like and if the problem is that you're cartidge system is just giving you hot air. If you drip and don't taste anything, either your juice has no flavour (maybe it's just bad, OR it needs to steep). Or from quitting smoking, your tastebuds need to come back (drink lots of water). Please keep us updated, and welcome to ECF

OK. Thank you so much for the help. I tried dripping, and it definitely helped. More flavor and more vapor. Much better than with the cartridge in. After trying that, I had no deside to reach for the pack of analogs on my desk.

 

[binomialbarley7]

Congratulations on your journey to healthier living!

Regurgitating what many have said and will say, when you come to vaping from traditional smoking you want to find something that tastes and feels the same. Vaping bears almost no similarity to an analogue from the perspective of a smoker. I've only been vaping for a little over a month, and I too was disappointed at first.

There are several things that make you want to smoke. The two strongest parts of tobacco addiction are (IMO) due to chemicals and psychology. Simplified, nicotine triggers the release of dopamine in the brain which makes you feel good, and the brain alters the way if functions to account for the extra dopamine and nicotine. If you lower your nicotine level the brain starts to misfire (metaphor), and it tells you that you need more. Also there is the two-part psychological need to smoke: the habit/ritual and the reason you started smoking in the first place. First, habits and rituals are required to order our lives. This helps to regulate and control the chaos. Second, many go to smoking out of a misguided sense of self-destruction as revenge for perceived wrongs or in order to establish a place in their psychosocial hierarchy.

If you made it through that psycho-babble, thanks. Vaping allows for us all to be physically healthier addict nut-jobs!

For me vaping takes a bit of warming up on a strong flavor, high nic liquid like a 24mg RY4. After about thirty minutes I settle into a really good groove with something light flavored, lower nic, and that can keep me going until whenever I get bored. V2's Red at 12mg does the trick, kinda sweet on a long drag.

The point is, you're on the right track, but you have to find what works for you.

Thanks again, if anyone made it through all that!

 

[ptsnipes]

I disagree with the statement about Cartomizers help with flavor, for me it is directly dripping into the atomizer for best taste. Cartomizers and tanks are great when on the move (don't drip and drive). I would look into some of the more premium juices from online vendors like: FreedomSmokeUSA (freedomsmokeusa.com) or Ms. T's Bakery (mstsbakery.com). If you are "underwhelmed" with the nicotine levels, adjust them (I use 30mg atm). If you are unhappy with the smoke produced (adjust your levels of vg (Vegetable Glycerin). I first tried an e-cig (green nicotine) nearly a year ago and found it to be a horrible loss of money and time (made the mistake of buying from a mall kiosk).

Find what works well for you, I would personally recommend using atomizers and dripping directly (if you are able), or invest in a good tank mod (liquinator works well, madvapes.com has some great tank mods for like $10). To me, cartomizers are very hit and miss, I get horrible taste from about half of the ones I have tried (i've tried a lot).

Most importantly, don't give up on giving up tobacco products. I quit a 20+ year habit of smoking 1-2 packs a day, several of my friends have quit as well (smoking and dipping) with the use of e-cigs. If you are interested in more information, feel free to message me anytime.

Thank you for the advice. I'm a little confused about the PG/VG thing. From what I have been able to tell, the more VG it has, the more it will clog up cartos, etc.? So I'm assuming that a mixture of mostly VG you would only use while dripping. Is that correct?

 

[noholesinmyclothes]

i felt the same need for a cig after vaping. like i needed to chase it. didn't take long to break. i'm just starting the flavor thing as well. good luck on your journey.

 

[sandybeach]

I was disappointed with the flavors at first. Same as you, the only thing I could taste was menthol. It took me at least a month to find delicious flavors that I love. I was a menthol smoker -- now I don't even use menthol at all to vape.

These are *my* faves:

Vanilla Strait - Nite Lite Vapor
Renegade - Nite Lite Vapor
Dekang RY4 - Value Vapor ( 50 ml bottles )
Dekang DK-Tab - Value Vapor (50 ml bottles)
Bounty Hunter - Nite Lite Vapor

I started with 18 mg. After 2 months now, I use 12 mg. and sometimes 6 mg.

Good luck!

 

[TommyG]

I was a non menthol smoker, and my first disposable that really did if for me was menthol lol. I think the thing about the menthol juices is that while your body first gets used to the fact that you're not smoking and your sense of taste is a little wonkey you can still feel the menthol, which is something at the very least. For me I didn't really get a good tobacco juice experience until just recently, lost all taste for a few days but it's back with a vengeance now, Mom & Pop's has a really good tobacco selection.

As for that cig craving, I found that the auto bats did the best job for me in the beginning. Now I don't normally care for the auto batteries unless I'm working, in which case I can pick up an auto and you'd think it was just a cig to me (used to always smoke when working on a car, or at my work bench lol). In my first week I had some pretty severe moments where I just wanted a cig so bad (I was vaping a corner store special), I ran down to Walgreens and picked up a Blu disposable and vaped the hell out of that (wound up hating the flavor, but it did the trick TH and vapor wise).

Don't give up if you slip a little, the goal here should be enjoyment, which in time can easily lead to quitting. I hear about people accidentally quitting all too often lol. Something else I found myself doing when I was just dieing for a cig was going on you tube and looking for ways to increase vapor production, or reviews on different PVs. This all led to me having a really keen selection of cleaning methods for cartos, lol, and now I can refill an old coffee carto with the mildest of flavors.
I'd be lieing if I said I wasn't still looking up maintenance methods, or ways to mod different things, I love seeing what's out there and what people are liking

 

[tsunami987]

One flavor I'd recommend is either pumpkin pie or house blend from copper creek. After a decent menthol juice, and about 2 out of 8 sampler flavors that didnt suck from cignot, I ordered some juice from copper creek because I had read they had very tasty, strong flavors. Everyone was right, I picked up a fall favorite sampler and they were nice enough to swap out licorice for pumpkin pie and it was quite good.

Aside from that, I'd also recommend going stronger on the nic at first to help quit analogs. I went too low and while I'm smoking less than I was, I still feel the need for an analog. Anyway, getting better with dripping helps. I will say, however, cartos are... Interesting. It seems difficult to fill them with either the condom or syringe method, since either way it always comes through the middle, but once they are nice and full they work like a charm. I bought some 2.0 and 3.0 ohm boge's, and definately prefer the 2.0 for the feel and flavor.
To answer your question about vg/pg... I haven't noticed much of a difference. It is much harder to get VG through a syringe and therefore fill a carto, or even trying to push it through... But will it clog a carto up? I have no idea. Has not clogged mine yet, although I did in fact ruin one due to using it 5min after filling. I would definitely recommend leaving a carto overnight to soak especially if you are filling it with a vg-heavy juice.

 

[kabonk]

good for you! I never used the carts I went for dripping when I first started I couldn't get any flavor out of those carts and cartos for on the go then I moved to bottom feeders and now I'm a 3ohm carto in a 3ml tank on vv mod type of girl but anyway I smoke 2 pad for many many years and I could taste juice right away I guess it depends on where you get it from.

 

[MrGiggly]

I started about 3 weeks ago and once the initial 'novelty' value wore off after a few hours I also found myself a little underwhelmed. I'd tried giving up analogues a few times over the years, my most sucessful being a period of about 18 months, but ended up slipping back into it and pretty soon was back to 10-20 a day.

With the imminent arrival of my first born at the end of last year, my good missus suggested I try e-cigs. As I found myself pondering my impending responsibilites througout 2011, I also found I was smoking more and more! In dec, my wife, seeing that my promises to quit before baby was born were looking bleak, suggested I try an e-cig. A couple of intensive internet trawls later and I was extremely confused but biting the bullet, put in an order for an ego-t

I'd bought a sample pack of 4 different 18mg tobacco flavours and all of them just tasted weird, not a great deal of flavour other than an unpleasant slightly sweet sickly after-taste. Also, I had no idea who made them or what was in them so I began to trawl the net, and over the next few days began ordering various liquids to experiment with. Mixing up my own liquid was the first revelation.

At first I started with a pg base, some platinum ice cut to 11mg and variations of fruity and tobacco flavourings. This got rid of that funky aftertaste of the starter juice but now I was only getting wispy unsatisfying vapour. Some further reading and various mixes of vg and pg seemed like they might help. 70pg/30vg sounded like a good place to start so I bought a bottle of vg from my local chemists, mixed some up and whehey, bigger plumes of vapour that hung around for longer and looked more like real smoke. I'd also ordered some dual cartomisers to try instead of the ego-t atomisers. That was another big moment, trying those for the first time I got big flavour from them. Being a complete noob, I ran the first carto dry which gave me my first experience of burnt filler - ewwww, mental note to self, don't do that again! Unfortunately, whilst the cartos added flavour, they also removed the throat hit and warmth. Adding some vodka to my mixes helped a bit but not enough and I didn't want to have to add extra nicotine.

And then I stumbled upon this place, and after a few hours my head was hurting from all the information, but I had managed to get my head around direct dripping, tried it, and found I really liked it for certain situations. Looking back at it, I can't believe how simple it is. It just took me a while to grasp how various e-cig components work

So, where am I now. Well I've no intention or desire to go back to analogues, though deep in my subconcious, there's a part still refusing to let me throw the half empty pack out thats sat in my bottom drawer. But I'm still questing for a more consistent vape. I'm mixing direct dripping of 24mg for that wake up hit and times through the day when my fix is at its worst, with atomisers and cartomisers at 11mg for the rest of the time. I'm loving the experimentation side of things. My study now looks like a laboratory! I'm looking forward to Monday when I pick up a provari from the postal dept and start experimenting with how different voltages have an impact.

I guess my lengthy rant makes two points, that experimentation can be rewarding and fun, and that you have to have a desire to give up or cut down on the analogues which gets you over the initial change of the habit.

 

[elfstone]

Jut wanted to share that I applied a piece of advice given here and it worked big time. I never smoked menthol and I don't really like it, but I said let's try. After drinking plenty of water and puffing on menthol from Pink Spot, a lot of the other flavors that seemed subdued now exploded! Quite cool.

 

[rainbow_soul]

If the taste buds seem to be clogged up, try drinking milk or eating a piece of cheese. It worksf fine for me on those days, when nothing I vape seems to have a taste.

After six months of vaping and being smoke free, I am down to 6mg to 12mg Nic. But I always have one PV filled with 24mg in case of craving for more TH.