Kanger Subtank not gettin' enough love

[Jazzman]

I know I have pointed out a few quirks with the Subtank that I would like to see addressed in another thread, and I also really like the Aspire Atlantis which has gotten a ton of positive press. But I am really shocked at the lack of positive posts for the Subtank. I think, even with a few quirks, this is a really great tank and is deserving of quite a bit of praise. Why are there so few posts about this tank? Am I crazy thinking this is a groundbreaking tank in a couple of very specific ways for vaping? Or are the people that like this tank just too busy enjoying the vaping goodness to post a quick reply.

Here is a thread to say what you like about the Subtank and let others know this is a big step forward in tank vaping. You can be negative if you really want I guess, but I would rather hear what folks like about this tank.

I'll start by saying I never thought I would see a tank that could deliver such a large amount of vapor and flavor at 15 to 20watts. And to add that it holds 6ml of juice is just icing on the cake. I find this to be a really satisfying vape at a relatively low wattage, which to hear most drippers say is not even possible. Well, I guess it is because I'm vaping it now. This is not to say it supplants or replaces drippers, but damn... even at low wattage this tank is really, really good. And to top it off, I can run it on a Provari P3. That's something I can't do with an Atlantis with it's high power requirements. Although I normally run it on an IPV3.


Just an overall great vape on very average mod hardware. Quite an achievement that deserves a little recognition.

 

[Rondo9]

2 downsides imo is it's too big to carry around. It's a stay at home vape clearomizer. 2nd the vapor production and flavor is elite for a clearomizer but not quite in the rebuild able territory. You can't vape it past at 30 w without getting some burnt taste.

The Atlantis has a smaller tank but it looks better on most mods. It is easier to carry. You can hit it at 30 W without burnt hits. At the biggest airhole at 30 W, it gives you a rebuildable vaping sensation. At 40-45W you get very close to actual rebuildable vaping.

I have tried both and the Atlantis is a little better imo. The tank is smaller but It's ok bc i like to vape 2 or 3 different kind of flavors in one day anyways. You do have to pay a price to buy replacement coils but if you can afford it, it makes your life a little easier.

Both are very nice clearomizers

 

[Rebuke]

As an rbta the subtank is very impressive. The flavor is just as good as my magma clone. The size is a bit of a downer, but i carry the damn thing around on a sigelei 100w. I'm thinking about a panzer clone in 18350 or 18490 mode as a more pocketable setup.

 

[InfinityzeN]

I have both the Subtank and the Atlantis. The Subtank is just too big to carry around day to day. It makes any mod you put it on very top-heavy and looks way oversized. On the higher end it falls slightly behind the Atlantis. Additionally the Atlantis has a 5ml tank on the way shortly.

No completely knocking it, it's build quality is great and I really like the fact that its coils are organic cotton.

 

[markophonic]

I've been using mine for a few days now and I really like it. I've mostly been using it on my Hana DNA 40. I've tried it on the Vaporshark rDNA 30 and various mech mods. On the mech's its just too damn top heavy...Its top heavy on the Hana but at least the box mod is a little more stable sitting on a table etc.

I've only used the 0.5 coil on the subtank...haven't tried it in RBA mode. The vape has been perfect for me.

I like the construction of the subtank. looks great...if only it were about 15-20% reduced in size...I'd be happy if it 22mm and only held about 4ml.

I want a tank for when i'm out and about....this is really too big to be hauling around...great for at home...but I have plenty of drippers for home.

I really like everything about it...except its size!

 

[Butters78]

I just got mine a few days ago and I'm very happy with it. I have it on the segelei 100 Watt plus and it's working great. I haven't tried the rebuildable section yet but looking forward to it.

 

[Jazzman]

I tend to agree with many that say this tank is an odd size. 25mm is just a bit goofy on many devices. That was certainly one of the quirks I mentioned and I'm sure Kanger will come out with a smaller model that will be 22 or 23mm. But this is still a great tank and I'm still surprised at the flavor and vapor production at very low power levels. That is probably the biggest surprise to me about this tank. While it seems the whole industry is focused on higher power for more vapor and flavor (which does work), I think Kanger deserves some kudos for delivering a very satisfy amount of vapor and flavor at low power levels. This really goes against the current trend of more power for more vapor that seems just about every manufacturer, from mod makers to tank producers, is gravitating towards. So I find the idea of making a better device that can achieve these goals without having to push massive amounts of power refreshing.

The ability to get a very satisfying vape at 20watts also means less expensive, smaller mods that only use 1 battery can last all day on a charge. That is noteworthy in itself I think. I find at 30watts a single battery mod just won't go the all day distance for my vape style, but 20watts does quite nicely.

I don't think this tank, or even the Atlantis, is going to cause the demise of RDAs. RDAs still have the edge for vapor and flavor production (with a lot more power and effort), but I can say I drip a lot less now because of the Subtank and Atlantis.

 

[Jake67]

Other than the size I love this tank. I've used both the clearomizer and the rebuildable deck. They both are great. I think it stands toe to toe with the Atlantis. The KJD cotton coils have the sub tank coming on top for me.
Not sure why more people aren't using this tank.

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[WickedBad]

I think that there are a lot of people like me that are not going to try it due to the size. If there was a 22mm with 3 - 4 ml capacity I would certainly give it a go. It sounds like from the reviews that it is better than the Atlantis. I tried the Atlantis but found it lacking in taste. I am going to hold out for a smaller version and hopefully some TC heads.

 

[druckle]

I have both the Aspire Atlantis and the Kanger Subtank and in my book the Subtank definitely provides superior flavor. That's a big thing for me because clouds aren't my thing. I find the Subtank way more efficient in that it provides a satisfying vape at much lower power than the Atlantis. 'I've used both the 0.5 ohm and 1.2 ohm coils and prefer the higher resistance coil. although both are great with the proper adjusted airflow. I'm using the Subtank on a Vapor Flask DNA 40 and the size is absolutely a nonissue except that I love the larger capacity compared to the puny capacity of the Atlantis. I have four more Subtanks on order to cover all my favorite flavors. The Aspire Atlantis is a good atomizer but I judge the Kanger Subtank to be a great atomizer and when properly setup competitive in flavor to my Magma, Origen or Veritas drippers.

 

[igottasrt8]

I'm thinking the Subtank is going to be awesome for the Kayfun crowd.

 

[Mrdaputer]

I think the love will come it just came out. The Atlantis has been out for a while. I love the sub tank a friend has the Atlantis and is a Aspire die hard. Let him try the Kanger sub tank and he just kept hitting it lol. He even said the flavor was better which made me laugh. Those that say its too big at 25 use the reducer. Those that say you can't jack up the watts like the Atlantis once you find your sweet spot why go for more. I could say the Atlantis can't handle 50 watts but who cares if the flavor is there. I can fill the tank and it will last me all day at work. My Aspire mini still gets used just not nearly as much. The Atlantis would have to be filled once or twice. The rba puts it over the top. I just wonder what Kanger and Aspire will come up with next. What ever it is us vapors will be winning. Bottom line is doesn't matter what you use as long as it keeps you off the cigs

 

[roosterado]

I think I will buy the Kanger Subtank for Home Use. #1 Cotton Wick.[and can use as a rebuild-able if out of coil heads] Also I have a Sigelei 20watt with a SS 26650 tube from VariTube. I use this with my full Russian and it is not top heavy and the 26 mil Diameter of the Tube makes it stable on my desk. The drawback is the sigelei 20 watt only fire down to .7 ohm so I will have to use the 1.2 ohm coils or rebuild above .7 ohm. Which is not really a drawback for me as that's within my usual ohm range now

 

[AquaLung22]

My Atlantis will be here tomorrow, ($25 at midsouthtrading.com) + 10 coils.. I've tried it a few times and it rocked, so I bought one. But today I got to try the Subtank at a local vape shop - and the flavor was AMAZING!! And clouds, just as big and thick as the Atlantis from what I remember.. Excellent airflow, better than my Billow Tank wide opened.
.... and despite it's big size, it actually looked really cool on the IPV Mini.. My relative grabbed the Mini & the Subtank.

Now, I'm regretting getting the Atlantis.. I might contact the website tonight, and try to exchange for the Subtank.. The Flavor was soo good, huge thick clouds, and it holds way more juice & looks real cool. Plus, people are saying the Atlantis coils are unsafe now; and ST uses Japanese cotton.

I also want to sell my IPV3 for an IPV Mini now lol, and that sexy Sigelei 150w.. Damn, why do I have to regret every vape purchase and have buyers remorse?? Seems like I'm making a lot of mistakes lately with my vape purchases, and all this new gear coming out.


Actually, after reading some of these replies - I might just keep my Atlantis (my 1st Aspire tank), and wait until Kanger comes out with a smaller 4-5ml Subtank

 

[Rondo9]

My Atlantis will be here tomorrow, ($25 at midsouthtrading.com) + 10 coils.. I've tried it a few times and it rocked, so I bought one. But today I got to try the Subtank at a local vape shop - and the flavor was AMAZING!! And clouds, just as big and thick as the Atlantis from what I remember.. Excellent airflow, better than my Billow Tank wide opened.
.... and despite it's big size, it actually looked really cool on the IPV Mini.. My relative grabbed the Mini & the Subtank.

Now, I'm regretting getting the Atlantis.. I might contact the website tonight, and try to exchange for the Subtank.. The Flavor was soo good, huge thick clouds, and it holds way more juice & looks real cool. Plus, people are saying the Atlantis coils are unsafe now; and ST uses Japanese cotton.

I also want to sell my IPV3 for an IPV Mini now lol, and that sexy Sigelei 150w.. Damn, why do I have to regret every vape purchase and have buyers remorse?? Seems like I'm making a lot of mistakes lately with my vape purchases, and all this new gear coming out.


Actually, after reading some of these replies - I might just keep my Atlantis (my 1st Aspire tank), and wait until Kanger comes out with a smaller 4-5ml Subtank

1st the Subtank has better flavor bc the airhole is like half the size of the atlantis largest airhole. Most people will vape the atlantis at the largest airhole. So if you want more flavor from the atlantis just use the other smaller ones. At the smallest setting you will get more flavor (though at the larger airholes you get more flavor from the exhale).

2nd the material concerns about the Atlantis is kind of crazy if you ask me. Aspire has already provided an explanation as to how it works, with a diagram and everything.

People that have taken it apart, have done it after firing at 30 -40 W for more than a week. Of course when you take it apart its going to look like hell. It's not mean to be used for that long at 30-40W. I have stopped vaping on the atlantis coil within a week and the materials are intact, wet and not the horror some guys portray it to be. If you want the coil to last up to a week, vape it at 20 W. If you want 30 plus W performance, well you can only do that for 2 or 3 days

 

[Jazzman]

I think the love will come it just came out. The Atlantis has been out for a while. I love the sub tank a friend has the Atlantis and is a Aspire die hard. Let him try the Kanger sub tank and he just kept hitting it lol. He even said the flavor was better which made me laugh. Those that say its too big at 25 use the reducer. Those that say you can't jack up the watts like the Atlantis once you find your sweet spot why go for more. I could say the Atlantis can't handle 50 watts but who cares if the flavor is there. I can fill the tank and it will last me all day at work. My Aspire mini still gets used just not nearly as much. The Atlantis would have to be filled once or twice. The rba puts it over the top. I just wonder what Kanger and Aspire will come up with next. What ever it is us vapors will be winning. Bottom line is doesn't matter what you use as long as it keeps you off the cigs

It just seems the day the Atlantis came out it was all anyone could talk about. And rightfully so, I own one and it is a great tank. But it also seems the Kanger really hasn't gotten he big press and the farther away from the release date it gets the less notice most folks seem to take. I just wanted to draw some attention to a really nice tank.

 

[underwhelmd]

I just wanted to draw some attention to a really nice tank.

I'll be finding out how nice later this week... "The tank is in the mail." I was going to buy local but found a great price from an ecf canadian vendor.

 

[Circa Survivor]

Subtank, for me, is just a better buy. Ya, it's big, but you got 2 options to run it. Stock coils are very good, and the rebuildable deck is fantastic. One great thing is the stock coil heads are way easier to rebuild than the atlantis ones. That saves me on buying a bunch of head once one goes bad.

 

[AquaLung22]

Thanks for the great reply, Rondo
I saw the diagram that Aspire posted, the coils seem fine to me. Although a Japanese cotton version would be nice too. I didn't know the coils would only last a few days each though, especially with how expensive they are. Maybe they'll last me longer though since I use a few different atty's daily now.

Sorry for getting OT.. I agree that it seems the Atlantis was much more hyped up at it's release, than the Subtank is now that it's been released. Maybe just because the Aspire was the 1st to release a true Sub-Ohm tank? If you don't count those Kanger 0.8 & 1 ohm coils that everybody hated (I actually enjoyed them and still have a few).
.... But the local vape shop that I took my relative too yesterday, recommended the Subtank[/B - mainly because of juice capacity. I recommended the Atlantis before we got there, but she got the ST. And once they set it up, I was really impressed with the flavor!!
And the vapor, and airflow, and even the look on the IPV Mini was really cool


But I got my Atlantis in the mail today.. I think I'll just keep it instead of trying to exchange for the ST, since Aspire releasing a 5mL Glass Replacement Piece for the Atlantis around Jan 5th.. I'll just wait until Kanger releases a smaller Subtank lol, I have my BILLOW Tank for rebuilding too anyways (which ROCKS!).

But now I'm wanting an IPV Mini & a Sigelei 150w, and I just got my IPV3.. Arghh lol
About to unbox my Atlantis and load her up

 

[Jazzman]

Great post Aqua. I think Aspire caught everyone completely off guard with the Atlantis and redefined the meaning of a clearo completely. Unfortunately, Kanger was a little behind the curve and had to go through several redesigns of their coil in a very short time frame to compete and lost the market hype as a result. But that doesn't mean the Subtank isn't a great tank. It clearly is! It just seems to be lost a bit in the Atlantis shadow.

I own both tanks and think they are both stellar entries to the market. I would be really hard pressed to tell which I like more, it would probably depend on the time of day and which tank I was vaping at the time. But I am firmly convinced the Subtank is a great tank and think Kanger deserves some great press for it.

And quite honestly, this rivalry between Aspire and Kanger has been going on for a few years now and I couldn't be happier. They are both pushing the envelope of better tanks for vaping for a long time now. This truly benefits all us vapers in the best possible way.