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Andrew3605

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Well, Try a clone out and see how the concept of the build works. If you like the concept, then get a real one. I have two KFL clones, and both work good to me.

Also, what don't you like about the russian 91?

The one I'm planning on getting is a clone I think since its all black. Also I can never wick it right without it flooding and it's either always flooding or giving me dry hits. When I went to my local b&m they helped me out on it and it's not flooding or dry but the flavor is just nonexistent, I have banana nut bread in there which is a pretty strong flavor but I can't taste it at all and I know it's not vapors tongue because my drippers and nautilus taste fine.
 

NealBJr

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Well, On my Kayfun I like to use about 28 gauge kanthal in mine with cotton. As long as the cotton is touching the bottom deck without covering the juice channels, it's fine. I believe the juice comes right up to the deck, but not on the deck when in normal use, but when you inhale, it provides just slight enough pressure to pull some juice on to the top deck and wick up. If the wick is covering the juice channel, it will wick up juice all the time, and cause flooding. There is also a major concern when it comes to having proper seals. If you have even the slightest seal leak in the kayfun, it will cause flooding. The biggest culprit of that, is the O-ring inside the top cap that seals off the chimney. It doesn't fit %100 and needs some finegaling when putting it back together to get the full vacuum seal. Once setup though, it works flawless.

I don't about the russian's air inlet, but you might want to try putting your finger over the airhole and doing a quick puff. This should draw a bit more juice to the wick, but could also flood it if not carefull. It could be that it's wetting the wick, but not wetting it enough.

The second thing to look out for is your PG/VG mixture. IF you have a heavy VG liquid, it might not be pulling enough juice in. I use a 30/70 mix for juice (pg/vg), so it's thick, but not too thick.

Lastly, it oculd be the coil setup. I am assuming you're a good coil builder, so here is what I use: I use 28 gauge wire wrapped at .8 to 1.0 ohms on my mech mod... 32 gauge 2.0 ohms for my 15 watt aVamos.

It's not a cloud chaser, but it is a tonne of flavor.
 

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The one I'm planning on getting is a clone I think since its all black. Also I can never wick it right without it flooding and it's either always flooding or giving me dry hits. When I went to my local b&m they helped me out on it and it's not flooding or dry but the flavor is just nonexistent, I have banana nut bread in there which is a pretty strong flavor but I can't taste it at all and I know it's not vapors tongue because my drippers and nautilus taste fine.

Ya, I have to agree that if you don't like this type atty, you probably won't like another atty of the same type.

Pretty much all hardware on the market today have positives and negatives to it. Some people like clearos, some like cartos and some like rebuildables of various types. I'm vaping a Gennie with SS wick, a Reo with cotton and a Trident dual coil on a tube mod right now. All of them have good and bad points to them, but all of them can be really great vapes if they are done right.

IMO the biggest part of getting one right is working through things until you have a good vape. That also means that if you try a different version of the same type atty before you understand why you couldn't make the first one work for you, it probably won't go well for you.

Vape on :thumb:
 

Andrew3605

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Ya, I have to agree that if you don't like this type atty, you probably won't like another atty of the same type.

Pretty much all hardware on the market today have positives and negatives to it. Some people like clearos, some like cartos and some like rebuildables of various types. I'm vaping a Gennie with SS wick, a Reo with cotton and a Trident dual coil on a tube mod right now. All of them have good and bad points to them, but all of them can be really great vapes if they are done right.

IMO the biggest part of getting one right is working through things until you have a good vape. That also means that if you try a different version of the same type atty before you understand why you couldn't make the first one work for you, it probably won't go well for you.

Vape on :thumb:

Thanks man I'll keep on trying and hopefully I can get it right soon!
 

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I'm also new on Kayfun Lite,and in my case,I got nothing but the dry hits. Whatever wick I did,no go,lots of dry hits.
My clone got very shallow channels,so first I did ,I deepen it with Dremel tool. Also,instead of micro coil,I did spring coil and problem solved. Not one dry hit since then.

Don't know now,what helped,deeper channels or spring coil ,need to test it with classic micro coil again.

Coil is 28g wire on 2mm drill bit,about 8 turns - 1.7ohms on my MVP 2
 

NoMoreCope

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I didn't have any luck with the "diagonal coil, z-wick, across the deck" technique. Chimney pulled cotton weird, wouldn't sit right, etc. I ran a coil/wick straight across the deck.... 26ga/.9-ohm/5/64th bit... Takes a little figuring on the amount of cotton, but I fluff up the cotton and get it as symmetrical as possible(not symmetrical made one side feed differently), put the chimney on with the wicks straight up. Basically, the cotton needs to be just a bit above the chimney top. I then LIGHTLY tamp the cotton into the deck... want to compress it as little as possible, and don't want to push any into the channels. With the cotton fluffed, and sitting right on top of the channels, I completely solved my dry hit issue. Two full tanks so far, with no dry hits, no need for primer pulls, and no flooding.

Like mentioned though, if you truly don't like it, you probably won't like a Kayfun any more.

Draw is a bit tight for MY preference, but once you get it working, it's a great vape.

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E-juice thickness may be an issue. I use 80PG/20VG juice and the KFL+ clones I have are some of the most consistent vapes I've ever had. I will say that I did get dry hits with the included coils and silica wick. Switched to cotton and a compressed 30ga coil and haven't had a dry hit since.
 

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I have a feeling if you don't like the russian 91 you won't like the kayfuns as they are all almost identical in design.

+1 I have an authentic 3.1 and I just don't find it any better then any of the clones I have, other then fit and finish. Some clones compare better then others. For the best clone I have found its hard to beat the ehpro they even use heavy thick insulators just like the real thing fit and finish nearly mirrored the authentic. If your issue however is in how it vapes then thats goona be bad because all of mine vape relatively the same, flavor and vapor I have a Russian, the 3.1 and its clone, 3 KFL's and 2 KFL+clones
 

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Russian 91% shouldn't have any problems with the juice channels not being right. It was flooding because there was an air leak somewhere, which is the problem 99.99% of the time if your Kayfun (or Russian) is leaking or flooding.

As for no taste, pay attention to the height of the coil above the center air inlet on the build deck; there is a sweet spot. I have included a pic for reference of my KFL+ with a wicked build. The KFL and the Russian are identical as far as build deck goes. The bottom of the coil is roughly in line with the tops of the + and - block screws, perhaps a tad lower. Hope it helps...

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xpl0it

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It's a shame to hear you all are having issues with your KayFuns.

I have little to no experience with rebuildables and I've found them to be absolutely fantastic. I've tried to build them wrong just to see if I could reproduce the negative experiences being expressed around the forums. Unfortunately no matter what I do they provide a wonderful vape experience.

In my humble opinion any issues that do occur boil down to your build and nothing to do with the actual hardware.

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lavapr

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Keep in mind that Kayfuns can be finicky with thicker juices. If you are getting dry hits and use thicker juices use less cotton, let the end touch the opening of the channel (but not block it out) and give a few priming puffs as needed until it starts wicking good. Another trick I do is to cover the airhole and the mouth piece while filling, then put the screw in, turn it right side up and THEN let the air come in. This will create a good air lock and will draw some of the juice in the channels from the start.
 
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