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    He did a good job with the left behind series, this should be very interesting, coming out in NOV.
    Hollywood Actor Says His New Movie Will Hammer Political Correctness and Frustrate Atheist Activists

    Actor Kirk Cameron is taking political correctness to task this fall with a new movie that aims to deflate arguments regularly made against Christmas, while simultaneously pushing back against atheist activists’ annual attacks on the holiday.
    In “Saving Christmas,” Cameron plans to tackle some of the most controversial and disputed issues surrounding the celebration of Jesus Christ’s birthday — claims that he says have had a profound impact on the way believers and nonbelievers alike view the Christian celebration.
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    “Saving Christmas” isn’t an “angry rant about the culture war,” he said. Instead, it’s a celebration of the holiday and of the Christian faith.“

    I think that we are much better served celebrating the things that we love and believe in rather than ranting about those who hate what we believe in,” Cameron said. “And so this movie is a celebration and an encouragement for people to dive headfirst into all of the joy and celebration that Christmas deserves.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOSiZIgZ2JQ&feature=player_embedded

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...tical-correctness-and-rile-atheist-activists/
     

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    He did a good job with the left behind series, this should be very interesting, coming out in NOV.


    OH I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND UPCOMING FILMS!!!! WTG Kirk!! I truly admire what he's doing. But, he's looking so much older these days. Now I know I haven't aged a day, but have you noticed how many people we remember being so young and you turn around and go, 'great googlely mooglely......they got so much older in such a short time!'8-o

    Finally, someone stands up and challenges the PC garbage of the world. Hallelujah and Amein!! :w00t:
     

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    Cameron’s latest film, “Kirk Cameron’s Saving Christmas” hits theaters on Friday. The official website says it’s “an engaging story that provides a biblical basis for our time-honored traditions and celebrations, and the inspiration to stand strong against a culture that wants to trivialize and eliminate the faith elements of this holy season.”
    Kirk Cameron: Moms can save Christmas by cooking, decorating | Page Six
     

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    I forgot all about this movie with everything that's been going on. Has anyone seen it? I saw a Kirk Cameron movie called 'Monumental' on Netflix that I haven't had time to watch just yet. Yesterday, I was feeling bad and watched Christian movies most of the day.....oh, and Bluebloods. I got in on the 2 or 3rd season and wanted to catch up from the beginning.

    The Christian series I was watching: Revelation Roads 2 and 3. I can't wait for 4. I'd already seen 1. It looks like one is done every year. I've seen David A. R. White in quite a few things, but I believe this is his best role ever. His wife is an actress, too. It was done kind of in a 'Mad Max' style, with Kevin Sorbo and Eric Roberts. They both have fairly small roles, but they are both Christians. I've seen Eric Roberts in other Christian movies. Quite entertaining!:)
     

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    I just read a review on 'Saving Christmas' and it wasn't kind. Poor guy. He does what he feels God is telling him to do and 75% of the nation are going 'boo.' If they had rotten tomatoes, I'm sure they'd be throwing them. Christmas time is a time of giving of oneself to others.....not a bunch of gifts, either. If you want to give someone something, do it. Don't feel you have to. I look for gifts all through the year....inexpensive gifts, but gifts. Bake cookies and take to a nursing home, or a shut-in. Give of yourself! Go to an elderly's home and do laundry, or make a meal for them out of their own kitchen. Make up fruit baskets. You can get baskets cheap at the dollar store, buy a bag of apples, oranges, nuts, or give items they could not get for themselves. If possible, give to your favorite charity. There are thousands of ways to give. A gift doesn't have to come from Macy's, but I do like their parade and the dog show afterwards. A Maltese never wins!!! Give time to your church for things. And if nothing else, give a kind word and tell someone that Jesus loves them. A Christian should celebrate the giving spirit of Christmas 365 a year. :)
     

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    He did a good job with the left behind series, this should be very interesting, coming out in NOV.

    There were things I didn't like about the Left Behind movie. One of them was the need for a Jewish rabbi to determine if the Two Witnesses of God were the Two Witnesses of God. When they start their ministry, they will not need a Jewish rabbi to tell you - the whole world will know. And the soldiers won't hem them in anywhere. And anyone that get's in their way better be ready to meet their maker.
    I'm sick and tired of even so-called Christians trying to paint men sent by God as wimps. The problem is that too many people that are wimps parade around claiming to be servants of Christ, when they are not. True servants of Christ are as bold as lions!
     

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    There were things I didn't like about the Left Behind movie. One of them was the need for a Jewish rabbi to determine if the Two Witnesses of God were the Two Witnesses of God. When they start their ministry, they will not need a Jewish rabbi to tell you - the whole world will know. And the soldiers won't hem them in anywhere. And anyone that get's in their way better be ready to meet their maker.
    I'm sick and tired of even so-called Christians trying to paint men sent by God as wimps. The problem is that too many people that are wimps parade around claiming to be servants of Christ, when they are not. True servants of Christ are as bold as lions!


    c3po, you have to remember that all parts make up the body of Christ. My mom couldn't boldly stand as a lion. That's not who she was. My mother-in-law is the same way. They would show their Christianity through example. Now if you were in my folks house on a Sunday morning, you were expected to get up and go to church. Unless you were sick, no excuse would hold water. Everyone doesn't have a Type A personality. She was introverted whereas Daddy and I were extroverts. I think what you are aiming for is 'complacency.' Over the years, Christians have gotten side tracked by all of their own situations, problems, etc. Lets face it.....it's easier. True? Yep!

    Now if God instructs you to do something, talk to this one or that one, you better do it. However, there is a difference between driving people crazy and they hide when you walk down the hall or waiting on the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I've done that. I just wanted everyone to have the same joy I did. I was too strong and turning people OFF. So listen to the Lord. He'll tell you. :)
     

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    There were things I didn't like about the Left Behind movie. One of them was the need for a Jewish rabbi to determine if the Two Witnesses of God were the Two Witnesses of God. When they start their ministry, they will not need a Jewish rabbi to tell you - the whole world will know. And the soldiers won't hem them in anywhere. And anyone that get's in their way better be ready to meet their maker.

    We have to remember they're movies and up to interpretation and influence by worldly things but the message should always be Jesus. The way you interpret a scripture could be different for me but both should be done by the Holy Spirit in us and both can be correct.

    I guess it's how we see it after the holy Spirit tells us what we should know. I will say this though all our action should be the actions that Jesus does through us and we have many example in Scripture and much teaching that shows us anything other is not from God.

    Like your example above "Jewish rabbi to determine if the Two Witnesses of God were the Two Witnesses of God"

    I see it differently to me I see it as the rabbi making an announcing to the world/Jewish/un-Godly people that the Two witnesses of God are here NOW! Time is running out, soon it will be too late.

    If they deny Jesus why wouldn't they deny the Two Witnesses that God sent.
     
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    c3po, you have to remember that all parts make up the body of Christ. My mom couldn't boldly stand as a lion. That's not who she was. My mother-in-law is the same way. They would show their Christianity through example. Now if you were in my folks house on a Sunday morning, you were expected to get up and go to church. Unless you were sick, no excuse would hold water. Everyone doesn't have a Type A personality. She was introverted whereas Daddy and I were extroverts. I think what you are aiming for is 'complacency.' Over the years, Christians have gotten side tracked by all of their own situations, problems, etc. Lets face it.....it's easier. True? Yep!

    Now if God instructs you to do something, talk to this one or that one, you better do it. However, there is a difference between driving people crazy and they hide when you walk down the hall or waiting on the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I've done that. I just wanted everyone to have the same joy I did. I was too strong and turning people OFF. So listen to the Lord. He'll tell you. :)

    It would take volumes of books to fully explain everything that could be said, not to mention the psychological fact that people that are evil go to great lengths to appear perfect. The religious fanatics are the first ones that you should be leery about. I'm not saying that your relatives were religious pretenders. But anyone that has true understanding realizes that satans greatest worshippers are in the church's perverting God's Word.
    Getting back to my original comment, anyone can read Rev. chapter 11 and see clearly what the 2 Witnesses of God will be doing; so anyone with a brain will know who they are. And anyone that can read can see that the 2 Witnesses of God will kill anyone that tries to do them harm. That is in verse 5 and doesn't matter what someone's interpretation is because God makes it pretty plain and simple.
    Also, I take offense to the fact that they have a clean cut nice looking guy for the anti-Christ, and have the 2 ugliest guys they could find with scraggly beards hanging down their chest for the 2 Witnesses of God! What makes them think that the 2 Witnesses of God can't be clean cut good looking guys? By looking at them in the movie, you'd think they never bathe and probably have lice playing in their beards! What a joke hollywood is, and Kirk Cameron also.
     
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    We have to remember they're movies and up to interpretation and influence by worldly things but the message should always be Jesus. The way you interpret a scripture could be different for me but both should be done by the Holy Spirit in us and both can be correct.

    I guess it's how we see it after the holy Spirit tells us what we should know. I will say this though all our action should be the actions that Jesus does through us and we have many example in Scripture and much teaching that shows us anything other is not from God.

    Like your example above "Jewish rabbi to determine if the Two Witnesses of God were the Two Witnesses of God"

    I see it differently to me I see it as the rabbi making an announcing to the world/Jewish/un-Godly people that the Two witnesses of God are here NOW! Time is running out, soon it will be too late.

    If they deny Jesus why wouldn't they deny the Two Witnesses that God sent.

    That Catholic banner of "interpretation" has nothing to do with it. Rev. chapter 11 is plain and simple about the things the 2 Witnesses of God will do. When they turn water to blood, can smite the earth with all manner of plagues as often as they will, and stops the rain around the earth from raining, and kills everyone that tries to hurt them, and you still need to be told by a Jewish rabbi who they are, then I seriously question your sanity.
     

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    That Catholic banner of "interpretation" has nothing to do with it. Rev. chapter 11 is plain and simple about the things the 2 Witnesses of God will do. When they turn water to blood, can smite the earth with all manner of plagues as often as they will, and stops the rain around the earth from raining, and kills everyone that tries to hurt them, and you still need to be told by a Jewish rabbi who they are, then I seriously question your sanity.

    I never said anything about being a Catholic.

    Scripture say's it's not for any private interpretation and it can only be revealed by the Holy Spirit.

    The two witness come not for the believer but for the unbeliever who lacks or rejects God and Scripture . It's a announcement to them not the believer, It's not a sign for believers they have peace, hope in Jesus all that's needed. God gives the unbeliever the opportunity to recognize His awesome power through the two witness and return to Him and YES a Jewish Rabbi making an announcement carries weight in the Jewish community, sanity or blinders call it what you want but we can't deny it's all around us and scripture say's it will continue even until the they stand in front of the Judgment Seat.
     

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    It would take volumes of books to fully explain everything that could be said, not to mention the psychological fact that people that are evil go to great lengths to appear perfect. The religious fanatics are the first ones that you should be leery about. I'm not saying that your relatives were religious pretenders. But anyone that has true understanding realizes that satans greatest worshippers are in the church's perverting God's Word.
    Getting back to my original comment, anyone can read Rev. chapter 11 and see clearly what the 2 Witnesses of God will be doing; so anyone with a brain will know who they are. And anyone that can read can see that the 2 Witnesses of God will kill anyone that tries to do them harm. That is in verse 5 and doesn't matter what someone's interpretation is because God makes it pretty plain and simple.
    Also, I take offense to the fact that they have a clean cut nice looking guy for the anti-Christ, and have the 2 ugliest guys they could find with scraggly beards hanging down their chest for the 2 Witnesses of God! What makes them think that the 2 Witnesses of God can't be clean cut good looking guys? By looking at them in the movie, you'd think they never bathe and probably have lice playing in their beards! What a joke hollywood is, and Kirk Cameron also.

    satan doesn't care if you go to church. satan doesn't care if you read your Bible. satan doesn't care that you witness, or see Christian movies. What satan does care about is prayer! Prayer is where the power is!If you're going to a church that doesn't preach/teach the cleansing Blood of Jesus, I wouldn't go to that church. There will be a great falling away from Christianity in the last days. satan infiltrates churches as well as governments. 'I will not go to church with hypocrits!' I've heard this said over and over. BUT, they go to the movies with them, the grocery store, work, shopping stores, etc. That is not your rule of thumb. Your rule of thumb for a church and worshipping God should be as I stated before. Hypocrites SHOULD go to church. How else are they going to change? We need to take the log out of our own eyes before we try to take the cinder out of someone elses. You can't change people. Only God can do that! And it doesn't matter whether the 2 witnesses are dressed in 3 piece suits or the dress and custom of their day. It's the fact that they are there doing the will of God. You're judging a book by it's cover. Look at the heart, not the dress code.

    As far as Kirk Cameron goes, I appreciate that he does what he does because hollywood would shut him down, if they could. God won't let them. God has paved the way and that is something that should be applauded and not get caught up in the nay sayers. The movie told about the 'rapture,' and being left behind. I can hardly fathom how that will feel. The movie teaches about Jesus as Saviour. That's another plus. The movie teaches about how to become a true Christian. The movie teaches about the anti-christ. It's a pretty heavy movie for ones who aren't saved. Hollywood will be going to the devil if they don't get their act together. These types of movies teaches that, too. I've seen great end-time movies and some that had their heart in the right place, but wasn't as good as others. We never know how God will utilize a movie for the unsaved. We need to support all Christian movies that don't blaspheme God. Whether a good or bad movie, we need to support our brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, don't you think? I do! :wub:
     
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    I never said anything about being a Catholic.

    Scripture say's it's not for any private interpretation and it can only be revealed by the Holy Spirit.

    The two witness come not for the believer but for the unbeliever who lacks or rejects God and Scripture . It's a announcement to them not the believer, It's not a sign for believers they have peace, hope in Jesus all that's needed. God gives the unbeliever the opportunity to recognize His awesome power through the two witness and return to Him and YES a Jewish Rabbi making an announcement carries weight in the Jewish community, sanity or blinders call it what you want but we can't deny it's all around us and scripture say's it will continue even until the they stand in front of the Judgment Seat.

    Kirk was not Jewish in the movie. Even many atheists are aware of end time Scriptures. And these will be real happenings that will affect the whole world. The 2 Witnesses of God will not be cowering behind a United Nations fence. Lol
     

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    satan doesn't care if you go to church. satan doesn't care if you read your Bible. satan doesn't care that you witness, or see Christian movies. What satan does care about is prayer! Prayer is where the power is!If you're going to a church that doesn't preach/teach the cleansing Blood of Jesus, I wouldn't go to that church. There will be a great falling away from Christianity in the last days. satan infiltrates churches as well as governments. 'I will not go to church with hypocrits!' I've heard this said over and over. BUT, they go to the movies with them, the grocery store, work, shopping stores, etc. That is not your rule of thumb. Your rule of thumb for a church and worshipping God should be as I stated before. Hypocrites SHOULD go to church. How else are they going to change? We need to take the log out of our own eyes before we try to take the cinder out of someone elses. You can't change people. Only God can do that! And it doesn't matter whether the 2 witnesses are dressed in 3 piece suits or the dress and custom of their day. It's the fact that they are there doing the will of God. You're judging a book by it's cover. Look at the heart, not the dress code.

    As far as Kirk Cameron goes, I appreciate that he does what he does because hollywood would shut him down, if they could. God won't let them. God has paved the way and that is something that should be applauded and not get caught up in the nay sayers. The movie told about the 'rapture,' and being left behind. I can hardly fathom how that will feel. The movie teaches about Jesus as Saviour. That's another plus. The movie teaches about how to become a true Christian. The movie teaches about the anti-christ. It's a pretty heavy movie for ones who aren't saved. Hollywood will be going to the devil if they don't get their act together. These types of movies teaches that, too. I've seen great end-time movies and some that had their heart in the right place, but wasn't as good as others. We never know how God will utilize a movie for the unsaved. We need to support all Christian movies that don't blaspheme God. Whether a good or bad movie, we need to support our brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, don't you think? I do! :wub:

    But the movie is just bs, pardon my French. There is no Pre-Trib Rapture, that is a lie propagated by satans people in the church. People just need to study Scripture and they will see. How can the anti-Christ behead and imprison Christians if they are not here? Christians have nothing to fear from God's 2 witnesses, true Christians that is.
    God's 2 Witnesses will bring millions of times more people to Christ than those movies will because they won't be full of lies. Why do you think Christians are such a joke to atheists and non-believers? Heck, they can't even make a movie that is Scripturally accurate, the church's are full of liars.
    And the falling away is already happening...
    Oh, I forgot to mention that Scripture says the 2 witnesses of God will be clothed in sackcloth, but that does not mean that they can't be clean and groomed. You know, trim their beards and get a haircut... If I remember right, it is the Muslims that don't trim their beards.
     
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    We have to remember they're movies and up to interpretation and influence by worldly things but the message should always be Jesus. The way you interpret a scripture could be different for me but both should be done by the Holy Spirit in us and both can be correct.

    I guess it's how we see it after the holy Spirit tells us what we should know. I will say this though all our action should be the actions that Jesus does through us and we have many example in Scripture and much teaching that shows us anything other is not from God.

    Like your example above "Jewish rabbi to determine if the Two Witnesses of God were the Two Witnesses of God"

    I see it differently to me I see it as the rabbi making an announcing to the world/Jewish/un-Godly people that the Two witnesses of God are here NOW! Time is running out, soon it will be too late.

    If they deny Jesus why wouldn't they deny the Two Witnesses that God sent.

    There is only One interpretation of Scripture, and that is God's Interpretation. And if you are unsure of God's interpretation then you should study other Scripture and pray that God sends His Holy Spirit to help you understand.
    I'm well aware of the Catholic teaching of the so-called "personal interpretation" - it is a lie, and don't believe it!

    Sorry, I missed your question because you forgot the question mark. Evil people will deny God's witnesses. But atheists and non-believers will have no excuse after the ministry of God's witnesses. And everyone that doesn't listen and takes the mark of the beast, will be spiritually doomed.
     
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    There is only One interpretation of Scripture, and that is God's Interpretation. And if you are unsure of God's interpretation then you should study other Scripture and pray that God sends His Holy Spirit to help you understand.
    I'm well aware of the Catholic teaching of the so-called "personal interpretation" - it is a lie, and don't believe it!

    "God's Interpretation" GOD has no interpretation of Scripture, man does, Gods words are true and unchangeable.

    God doesn't need to supply me what He already supplied me with. The Holy Spirit has dwelled in me since the time I ask God to forgive me and I accepted the free gift God supplied for me and it's that way with every one who trusts God.

    When I read your post I get the idea that your talking on the literal word in books of scriptures, let me quote from the Scripture in

    2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation"

    2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
     

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    "God's Interpretation" GOD has no interpretation of Scripture, man does, Gods words are true and unchangeable.

    God doesn't need to supply me what He already supplied me with. The Holy Spirit has dwelled in me since the time I ask God to forgive me and I accepted the free gift God supplied for me and it's that way with every one who trusts God.

    When I read your post I get the idea that your talking on the literal word in books of scriptures, let me quote from the Scripture in

    2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation"

    2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

    Absolutely. That's why if we are having trouble understanding Scripture, we should search other Scriptures to find out God's interpretation of His truth. Maybe I should have said meaning instead of interpretation, but I figured that you understood what I meant.
     

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    And I really don't know why you are so easily offended? I wasn't implying that you don't have The Holy Spirit. Just because we have The Holy Spirit doesn't make us experts and all-knowing of every single Scripture and everything. Study and prayer helps us grow in our faith and understanding. And it's easy to not express ourselves fully in comments and texts. Especially for me because I can't type and have to chicken peck. Actually, I don't like doing this because it takes a lot of time for me. But I can't help but to try to help people.
    So please try not to get offended at me and think that I'm trying to insult you or belittle you - If I was trying to do that, I will make sure that you know it.
     

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    But the movie is just bs, pardon my French. There is no Pre-Trib Rapture, that is a lie propagated by satans people in the church. People just need to study Scripture and they will see. How can the anti-Christ behead and imprison Christians if they are not here? Christians have nothing to fear from God's 2 witnesses, true Christians that is.
    God's 2 Witnesses will bring millions of times more people to Christ than those movies will because they won't be full of lies. Why do you think Christians are such a joke to atheists and non-believers? Heck, they can't even make a movie that is Scripturally accurate, the church's are full of liars.
    And the falling away is already happening...
    Oh, I forgot to mention that Scripture says the 2 witnesses of God will be clothed in sackcloth, but that does not mean that they can't be clean and groomed. You know, trim their beards and get a haircut... If I remember right, it is the Muslims that don't trim their beards.


    Now I see it. I am a pre-trib person. You are confusing the saints saved by Grace with the tribulation saints. Grace ends when the tribulation begins which starts the clock once again on the 70th week in Daniel. Jews and gentiles will get saved during the tribulation period of 7 years. Don't forget that God marks 144,000 Jewish men on their foreheads to preach....like 144,000 Jewish Billy Grahams combing the globe. If you'd like, I'll try and dig up all of those Scriptures for you. After the 3rd Chapter in Revelation, you won't find the church mentioned again until we come back with Jesus at the 2nd Coming.

    When the time of Grace is over, a peace treaty will be signed between the anti-christ and Israel. The temple will once again be built. The world will be in complete and total chaos. The stock market will take a nose dive. How else can one man stand up, origins from the Old Roman Empire, and say, "I've got a great idea!" He is the rider of the white horse.....the 1st of 4 horsemen. He will have such charisma! The Old Testament laws will once again be put in play. Keep your eyes on Israel!!! Israel has and will always be the 'stage' in which the endtime scenario will play out. Now I honestly don't have any idea about the appearance of the beards of the 2 Prophets. But, you can rest assure that everyone will know they are Jewish and not Arabic. Every person I've read on endtime prophecy believe, as well and I do, that the 2 Prophets are Moses and Elijah. They already came back once....to minister to Jesus.

    Matthew 17:1-8 NKJV
    17 Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves; 2 and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. 3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. 4 Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, let us make here three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”5 While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!” 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their faces and were greatly afraid. 7 But Jesus came and touched them and said, “Arise, and do not be afraid.” 8 When they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no one but Jesus only.

    Ya gotta love Peter! I do! Anyway, once these 2 Prophets open their mouths and witness, no one will have any problem identifying who and what these men are about. I'll tell you this......if we are all still here, I will call you up and personally say, "You were right and I was wrong." I'll even buy the scissors for you to go and trim their beards, IF they are unkempt. It's a win win for you! Deal? :)
     
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