Kissbox Honest opinions please!

[PeteMcArthur]

Hi All,
I'm considering getting a Janty Kissbox classic but I have a few caveats about it, so any opinions from owners would be welcome.

1: It is fiendishly expensive, is it really worth three times as much as a pen style?

2: For all it's cost I still seem to read about failures, is it reliable?

3: Whats the battery life like?

 

[leaford]

1: Your call. With the manual switch it is more reliable and produces more vapor than a generic RN4072 or DSE-801 penstyle. (But, with the auto switch, it produces less than a generic, and has a long auto-cutoff.) The batteries last longer. It has a much easier draw. Many people think they can taste flavors better with it than others. The USB cable is very useful. ANd don't forget it has a 6 month warranty. All in all, I definitly think it's better but enough better to be worth it? That's your call.

2: A good unit is extremely reliable, one of the most reliable e-cigs on the e-market, imo. All brands have failures, and need replacements. The first few batches of KISSboxes had pretty bad bugs, but by batch 4 they had those worked out. These days thier part failure rate isn't worse than anyone else's. ANd when parts do go bad, their customer service takes care of it painlessly, and give you bonus cartridges to make up for it.

3: I had trouble doing a consistant puff count on them (they don't have automatic 5 second cutoffs so my puff lengths were too inconsistant), so I don't have hard numbers, but in general they last longer than a typical penstyle, around 8 hours instead of around 6. That's with the manual switch.

 

[smoking gnu]

Hi lads. I only just got my kissbox classic. And I can honestly recommend it. The manual switch and the usb are great. I’m getting lots of vapour with carts and dripping. They may be a little expensive, but I think once you try one you will think its worth it. I personally don’t think the batteries and the switches are that expensive. And as an added bonus the switch with the batteries is compatible with my diva atomizers. Vapour on demand is my idea of e smoking, and that’s what you get. I’m also getting as much vapour with the usb as with the batteries.Happy days.

 

[trog100]

1: It is fiendishly expensive, is it really worth three times as much as a pen style?

some penstyes can cost more than the product being mentioned.. this is more a "brand" thing than a type thing..

things have changed over my short time in e smoking.. what used to be considered "cheap rubbish" is now called a "generic" and the arguement of which "brand" is "best" has moved to should i buy a "brand" at all.. will a good generic do..

a good generic will do okay..

if u want a "name" buy one.. but many would say its no longer the best option..

to be specific..

1: It is fiendishly expensive, is it really worth three times as much as a pen style?... no it isnt..

2: For all it's cost I still seem to read about failures, is it reliable?... no it isnt..

3: Whats the battery life like?... not very good like most e cig batteries..

trog

 

[leaford]

Says the man who has never owned one.

Pete, Trog always bashes the name brands, bashes all guarantees as rubbish, and usually bashes anyone who disagrees. Just thought you should know when you judge his opinion.

And, Trog, what's happened is that the cheap rubbish, like e-cig.com, dealsextreme, and many of the e-bay stores (not all, Heavens Gift is good) have been seperated from the good generic sellers, like Pillbox and Jane. ALso, more good generic sellers have joined the game, like Smokester, Puresmoker, etc.

But it's still true that some brands outperform the generic e-cigs, like Sedansa and Janty. ANd still true that a warranty will save money on replacement costs over time.

 

[smoking gnu]

If you can put a manual switch on a generic that would be great. As for batteries , both mine for the Janty were flat this morning because I forgot to charge them yesterday. So I just used the usb no problems. don’t know if you can get the usb for a generic? The cost for a janty classic battery is 10.95 euros a manual switch is 11.95 euros even with the postage on top thats not that much more than generic spares.You pay your money and you make your choice. And I’m very very pleased with my branded e cigs.

 

[Kate]

Hi Pete.

I started esmoking with a generic RN4072 classic and thought it was pretty good. I didn't see the point in paying a lot for a brand name. After reading some reviews I decided to see if I was missing something. I'm glad I did because I really like my Kissbox, I think it's a better vaping experience and I think that Janty atomisers might be more durable, giving better vapour for longer. The USB batteries and manual switches are great additions.

You can compare the cost of different devices if you have a look at this thread - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/2452-value-money.html I miscalculated the guarantee period for Janty on the first post so you have to read into the thread to get more accurate costings.

 

[trog100]

and u leaford always bash me.. bless u.. he he

i now smoke my own design e cig dude.. it uses some generic components cos it has too.. i cant make atomizers..

but i have now given up on all of them.. brand name or otherwise.. my alternative and currently chosen option..

e cig e cigarette electronic smoking the screwdriver on eBay, also, Quitting Smoking, Health Care, Health Beauty (end time 09-Oct-08 01:00:56 BST)

and if u havnt twigged on yet leaford.. i bash e cigs as they currently exist in general.. not just the expensive brand names.. he he..

i simply find it easier to pay less (while finding out) for a product that isnt up to scratch than pay more.. pretty simple logic..

as for that "honest opinion".. the last place thats gonna come from is from a guy/gal thats already made up their mind and forked out the big bucks for a given product.. not many will be honest.. admitting they made the wrong choice dosnt come easy.. it usually works the other way.. he he he

trog

 

[smoking gnu]

Hay trog I want your screwdriver device, but I think the final price for that will be far greater than any branded e cig. LOL. I’ve had two bids on it already with no luck, but I will keep trying. Does it come with a 1 or 5 year guarantee. LOL

 

[Kate]

"as for that "honest opinion".. the last place thats gonna come from is from a guy/gal thats already made up their mind and forked out the big bucks for a given product.."

Are you implying that I am in some way being dishonest in order to sell Janty products?

You're the biased one here Trog, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't have a Kissbox. Not all Chinese products are cheap tat as you insist we believe. You may get cheap tat but that's all you're prepared to pay for. It costs you more in the long run and I'll put bets on the fact that your vaping experience is not as good. Brand atomisers are nicer to use and probably more durable.

Please don't call me a liar again, I don't like it. You're entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else. Your constant bias is tiring but not as bad as when you try to shut other people up.

 

[lucisac]

I have had my Kissbox Classic for over a week now, and all I can say is that the product is superb. Tastes great, consistent performance and puts you in control. The customer service is also something I find outstanding, they really look after me so as long as that continues they will have my full confidence and business.

 

[smoking gnu]

Hi Pete.

I started esmoking with a generic RN4072 classic and thought it was pretty good. I didn't see the point in paying a lot for a brand name. After reading some reviews I decided to see if I was missing something. I'm glad I did because I really like my Kissbox, I think it's a better vaping experience and I think that Janty atomisers might be more durable, giving better vapour for longer. The USB batteries and manual switches are great additions.


Personally Kate. I like the diva atomizer with the janty switch and usb, that’s nice. But if I didn’t already own the sedana , I would happily settle for the janty. Sedansa atomizers are expensive, but mine is coming up to 7 weeks old and is good as new, and I mean new, apart from it sounds like a duck.LOL

 

[TropicalBob]

Just .. get it.

I began e-smoking last January with a pathetic E-Cig e-pipe. I thought that little bit of vapor was the way things were supposed to be. Most unsatisfying. Then I bought an e-cigar. Wimpy vapor from the gitgo. Then a Health mini cig. Major mistake. Then a Meltrex generic pen style that worked well in vapor production but ate atomizers. Then another Health E-Pack that was defective within 12 hours.

Then the Janty Kissbox. What a huge difference. What a superb product. We can only speak from our personal experiences with models or brands, but my Kissbox is worlds apart from the junk I bought and used before now. I use the USB cord all day at the computer. I use the battery/auto switch when I go out. I use the car lighter plug-in when I drive.

This is the way it should be .. but won't be if you opt "cheap". As the old commercial said, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later." You can follow Trog's buy-crap-and-throw-it-away-in-a-week philosophy, or you can buy one quality product with the best customer service offered anywhere.

As Leaford said, it's your choice.

But dollars for crap add up.

 

[trog100]

kate.. i am simply saying how human nature works.. stop putting words in my mouth..

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gnu let me ask u an "honest" question.. nothing to do with ebay auctions.. what would u pay for the device assuming it does what its claimed to..

if we make them it does come down to what people will pay for them.. we can make them in small quantities.. but they are gonna have to cost more than the average chinese generic..

so what would u pay for one.. ???

trog

 

[Kate]

Yeah, I can't really rate the Diva atomiser Gnu because I tried it when I was a newbie and didn't get the hang of it. Putting the manual switch and USB battery on your favourite atomiser is a good combination, even if it does sound like a duck, lol. You've got a ducky Diva, very cute.

Did you get your Kissbox from Janty Europe Lucis? A while back some people were saying that they were having trouble communicating with Janty Europe but nobody has mentioned any problems recently. I've had good service from them. People from the States rate Janty USA very highly for customer service.

I agree with TBob, there is a quality difference and buying cheap adds up. I have six or so RN4075 atomisers and batteries sitting on my desk that I haven't used successfully since I got my Kissbox and Ruyan ecigar. They just don't do the job as I've become used to, although they were ok when I had nothing else. So I can't see me using those atomisers unless I'm really stuck, that's just a waste of money.

Trog, you said my opinion was not an honest one. Nobody is putting words into your mouth, it's written there in black and white. You don't understand human nature on my planet, judging everyone by your own standards is a common mistake of arrogant bigots.

 

[smoking gnu]

I would pay around £100 trog. thats what the janty cost me with all the extras. And it works perfectly well, and the diva was the same. With the added bonus of a 5 year guarantee with sedansa, . that’s if they are still around that is. I would obviously like to pay less. But when I did it was just a waste of money.

 

[trog100]

I would pay around £100 trog. thats what the janty cost me with all the extras. And it works perfectly well, and the diva was the same. With the added bonus of a 5 year guarantee with sedansa, . that’s if they are still around that is. I would obviously like to pay less. But when I did it was just a waste of money.

thanks gnu.. no five year guarantee.. i aint that full of B/S.... he he..

they would need new atomizers every so often depending on use.. i dont see any way around that.. we would fix any problems if they occur.. or mod to take another type atomize for a small charge.. a money back if they are not liked say for fourteen days.. buyer covers postage..

thanks for your input.. if u dont get the ebay one i will send u another.. let me know.. it will be within your price range.. more than 26 quid thow.. he he

the ebay thing is just to see what interest there is in it.. if there isnt any they wont get made.. not much point..

trog

 

[DeviLFisH]

to be honest ,

all e cig hardest fault is at the atomiser , this is a fact and many of us already knew this

as suppliers also knew this problem when they came out e cig , made them , research back in china.

still the atomiser is the problematic part...

next come battery .

 

[trog100]

they are both problem parts fish.. but if atomizers can be bought cheap enough and are replaced often enough they are not a problem.. simply part of the overall consumable running cost..

we create our own problems fish.. helped along by being fooled into thinking they should last longer than they do..

trog

ps.. the company the thread is about will soon one way or another make cheaper atomizers available..

 

[Kimmiegrif]

I went to ebay to see it...cool...how is the balance of it...looks a bit top heavy. Maybe show how you hold it to have it balanced in your hand...just a thought. Good luck