Let's talk about silica wicking properties

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hippieben

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Ok, so I will lay this post out in 2 parts. The first part I will talk about my observations, and the second part I will ask my questions. Quite simply, I am trying to find the best combination of wire and wrapping technique that will enable silica to wick optimily.

Here's what I have noticed:
When making a coil I like my vape around 1ohm. I am using 30 gauge kanthal which with my wick (2mm silica folded twice, creating 3 layers of wick in the center where the coil is and a loop on either side). With 30 gauge a 3 / 4 wrap gives me 1ohm. However, when using a 3 / 4 wrap all the wraps light up intensely, and I find that this can cause some dry hits with certain liquids. The 3 / 4 wrap is what I've been using on my mech mod. If I use a regulated device I usually do a 6 / 7 wrap which gives me 2 ohms. I can pump my voltage up to 5.2 volts to achieve the same wattage as 1 ohm on a mech mod and it seems to wick better. I've also noticed that when dry firing this 2 ohm coil the outer wraps do not light up as intensely as the inner ones. I know this this is an effect of the heat transfer between the wire and the wick. On the outer wraps heat can travel away from the coil into the loops, and the inner wraps cannot transfer heat away as well, so they light up more. My theory here is that the cooler temperatures on the outside of the coil encourage wicking into the center of the wick where the majority of the vaporization happens. This cannot happen with the 3 / 4 wrap as there's just not enough surface area to allow the heat to transfer in this way.

I am no expert on thermodynamics, these are just my observations and they seem to be backed up by the resulting wicking properties.

Now for my questions:
Is what I'm observing and assuming based in any kind of reality — does it make sense? I'm waiting on some 28 gauge wire which I'm hoping will allow me to achieve the 1 ohm goal with more wraps (I'm hoping for at least 4, ideally 5). If my assumptions are correct, this should work. I was also reading about so called "micro coils" with many wraps touching each other. Do the wraps touching each other affect the resistance of the coil? Will I be able to achieve the 1 ohm goal with more wraps of 30 gauge wire if the wraps are touching each other? If the 28 gauge wire doesn't give me many more wraps, would I be able to "fake" the heat absorption effect by placing the inner coils closer together than the outer coils?

Clearly I could be an idiot and all of this could be wrong, so I would also like to know how you guys (and gals) are achieving good wicking on low ohm coils with silica.

Please discuss :)
 

Kevin Brown

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Micro coils and wick
they make all the wick holes absolutely enormous
feed tha micro and win
less is best

the difference is huge, much more vapor and flavor
doesn't seem plausible does it -- yeah touch those coils micro that e cig--wrap the legs

it would appear the other way, huge wick-low ohm coil --
no, thats old knowledge

problem here! they are very hard to master
absolutely difficulty @ wizard level
 

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Here's what I've observed, no science involved. More wraps highlight the pattern where the center of the coil glows brightest. Microcoils and/or tightly spaced coils are also great for seeing that pattern. I never do less than 4 wraps. 5 is my favorite. Generally speaking, I use whatever gauge I need to get 5 wraps. Micro coils and silica are a tough nut, as the silica isn't good enough at wicking to keep up. Silica is good at holding juice, not so much pulling it. If I were building on silica to net 1Ω, I would do 5 wraps (touching each other) of 30 gauge on a 7/64" wick bundle. If I were wicking with nextel, cotton, or ss mesh. I would do a 1.3-1.5Ω microcoil (trust me, it will vape like one ohm). 1/16" wick ~ 11 wraps. So . . . . .there's some stuff I said. :)
 

Kevin Brown

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Here's what I've observed, no science involved. More wraps highlight the pattern where the center of the coil glows brightest. Microcoils and/or tightly spaced coils are also great for seeing that pattern. I never do less than 4 wraps. 5 is my favorite. Generally speaking, I use whatever gauge I need to get 5 wraps. Micro coils and silica are a tough nut, as the silica isn't good enough at wicking to keep up. Silica is good at holding juice, not so much pulling it. If I were building on silica to net 1Ω, I would do 5 wraps (touching each other) of 30 gauge on a 7/64" wick bundle. If I were wicking with nextel, cotton, or ss mesh. I would do a 1.3-1.5Ω microcoil (trust me, it will vape like one ohm). 1/16" wick ~ 11 wraps. So . . . . .there's some stuff I said. :)

I thank ya for that I have not tried it with silica but can see it flaws
I would show how my ss-wicks but, it then will be put in an atomizer because its badarse
but if you keep on improvising OP, theres no way you wont find it..
actually, I dont have a good enough camera to show the detail haha--

there a new atomizer out on market now i instantly thought hey thats pdib's way
but alas alike minds..

the cyclone rba and the airhole adjusting. its a very sharp rba unit
 

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I've had the best luck with around 10 wraps of a micro coil on a single strand of German silica. The German silica wicks faster than regular twisted, and keeps up with my builds no problem. I don't do sub-ohm though, so not sure if it would keep up with that.

And no, touching coils has no effect of the resistance of the coil. It will hit harder and heat up quicker with less watts though.

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