libertystix vs SmokeStickUSA - Who to believe

[LeXeR]

Both claim to be made in the US...

libertystix
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/10655-libertystix-2.html


SmokeStickUSA
https://www.smokestikusa.com/index.htm
Press Relese after FDA findings.
https://www.smokestikusa.com/smokestik release.pdf


SmokeStik has released the following statement:
[FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]"As a company that is categorized in the 'e-cigarette' industry, Smokestik is both aware and concerned about the FDA's findings released yesterday regarding electronic cigarettes. While we cannot speak specifically to the components of njoy or Smoking Everywhere's cartridges, we do understand from public sources that these cartridges are imported from China. As many of our distributors are aware, as of last month, SmokeStik’s cartridges are now made domestically. Moreover, all of the ingredients in Smokestik’s cartridges are certified by independent laboratories and most importantly; do NOT contain any of the carcinogens referenced in the Final Report on FDA Analyses. SmokeStik has always presented its products as an 'alternative' for responsible, adult smokers, and not as a smoking cessation product. SmokeStik has NEVER sold flavored cartridges such as those referenced in the FDA's Report. As a company, we oppose this type of marketing and discourage teenagers from using our products." [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]alexis@efgpr.com or 310.432.0020. [/FONT]

They look like the same products to me... re-branded 501?

Can we not believeany of our suppliers any more.
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[vjnnc]

I would say that it's quite possible to have something "look" identical, yet still be completely different.

Legally, I don't believe a company can claim that a product imported is in fact produced domestically - however, the components to produce the item may very well be imported.

 

[LeXeR]

I would say that it's quite possible to have something "look" identical, yet still be completely different.

Legally, I don't believe a company can claim that a product imported is in fact produced domestically - however, the components to produce the item may very well be imported.

my point is that they both claim to have carts that are made and filled in the US.

 

[SudokuGal]

Since I have dealt with a local SmokeStik distributor (ByByButts), I tend to believe the statement. Crystal didn't start out planning to be a distributor. She had bought her first e-cig at a local mall at a much higher price than the ST. Then she stumbled across SmokeStik...and liked that they fill their cartridges in a pharma setting. (Their hardware components may be foreign.) That's the main reason she hooked up with them. I'd guess that ST can provide proof.

 

[Sebastian]

LS cartridge liquid is made, mixed, filled, plugged, bagged and boxed in the US by US companies.

Electronic components are still from China.

Sebastian

 

[vconrad]

I started out with SmokeStikUSa because it was made in In the USA. I always try to buy American products if at all possible. I know the parts and sometimes the entire products are manufactured in other countries but I still try to always support our economy whenever possible. Just wish they had more models.

 

[Two-A-T]

Both claim to be made in the US...

SmokeStik HARDWARE (ie - batteries, atomizers, chargers, etc) are made in China as are 99% of the "standard mini" PV's on the market as far as I know. But, Their cartridges are now made in the US as of the date given in the notice posted on their website (which was also sent out to customers via email).

[FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]They look like the same products to me... re-branded 501?[/FONT]

Libertystix do NOT look like the same thing as SmokeStik (different charger, packaging, etc) so it could possibly be a 501. Someone with more experience with 501's would have to confirm or deny that for you.

My wife and I both personally use SmokeStik (they were our first and still our primary PV's although we refill our cartridges now instead of buying new ones to save money) and I can confirm that they (all 3 models) are RN-4081's, not 501's.

 

[sevryn999]

I originally wanted to buy from them but I read some mixed reviews. Anyone have a good experience with smokestickusa?

 

[acezzz]

smokestik is great as long as you dont want nicotine. all of their carts are 100% nic free now. of course you can refill them with your own nic juice. i have recently purchased 3 containers of their carts only to find most of them almost dry. The hardware is great but the carts suck.