Lip pressure or bite switch

[Vapinginjapan]

It would seem that the manual switches are the way to go with e-cigs. However, a manual switch that seamlessly integrates with the smoking experience, in my opinion, would be a lip pressure or a bite switch.

If you had a switch on the mouthpiece sensitive to higher than normal lip pressure, you could create an e-cig that had the benefits on a manual switch, that ran with some of what I feel to be the natural motions of smoking.

If i'm not mistaken, most people apply more lip pressure when sucking on something, no? I'm not sure how hard it would be to engineer, but it certainley seems like it would be worthwhile.

 

[Skad]

It wouldn't be hard to create a membrane switch, but since most models have the cart as the mouthpiece, it would make carts more expensive, as the switch would have to be integrated and somehow connected to the atomizer.

 

[ritalee76]

I've developed the habit of holding the e-cig in between my teeth while needing both hands....

 

[Vapinginjapan]

You could run the switch wiring from the mouth piece down the body, to a contact on the body.

 

[entropic]

i do the same thing ritalee, though frankly it's just easier to learn to drive with your knees

 

[firdaddy]

as good as an idea as that is, there's two problems
1. it would be a pain to engineer, and would make carts more expensive.. they'd most likely be close to a atomizer in price...
2. its more stuff to go wrong frankly.. the more complicated something is the larger of a chance there is for something to go wrong... drop your pv once and boom there goes your cart, abother 5- 10 bucks down the drain

i'm not trying to be uber critical, frankly i do like the idea

 

[Vapinginjapan]

The cartridge itself wouldn't have to be expensive. Just the mouthpieces.

The two aren't necessarily combined, no?

 

[ISAWHIM]

I have to agree that the idea is good, as a concept, but it does add undesired complication to the device.

The distance from the power/control is rather long, and would require multiple male/female connectors to communicate through each break in the multi-segmented device. Perhaps a long push-rod, which would run through the length of the device would be possible. However, that too complicates the twist/screw joining, and requires a lever to convert bite-pressure into push-pressure.

Having a non-replaceable part that is always in contact with your mouth, would require constant cleaning or expensive replacement. Germs build fast on things you salivate on, and things where dead-skin and food debris build-up on the surface.

Saliva would demand that any electrical switch was sealed, and the voltage/amps would have to be safely reduced. (Enough power to light a heat element, is enough power to burn your lips.)

Perhaps if it used a duck-bill style mouth-piece, that pushed all the innards down into the tube, with the switch near the battery, activated when the coil presses back against the switch. Though, that could still complicate things. It would require a second outer shell that was stationary to the battery, with the innards joined in segments. However, it would promote people not to keep it in their mouth, drawing less attention to the device.

There is also the issue with... are you sucking yet? No air flow equals heat-build-up. This is why they detect the air-flow, and only after air is flowing, the power is sent to the coil. (That ensures there is air to help cool the coil, if fluid is not abundant enough.)

 

[Menolly]

Ooops, wrong thread.

 

[tilfrie]

Oooh watch out, when I've been drunk I've dropped my ecig down the toilet like this... But maybe you're more sensible. The manuals stop me dropping it I must say.
p.s. I know I'm going of topic but does it annoy anyone else when the battery cuts completely when dead (my old one died slowly and you could squeeze the last dregs of battery out) I'd like to see a design that warned you better before you ran dry

 

[tilfrie]

I've developed the habit of holding the e-cig in between my teeth while needing both hands....

Oooh watch out, when I've been drunk I've dropped my ecig down the toilet like this... But maybe you're more sensible. The manuals stop me dropping it I must say.
p.s. I know I'm going of topic but does it annoy anyone else when the battery cuts completely when dead (my old one died slowly and you could squeeze the last dregs of battery out) I'd like to see a design that warned you better before you ran dry

 

[imsewsure]

p.s. I know I'm going of topic but does it annoy anyone else when the battery cuts completely when dead (my old one died slowly and you could squeeze the last dregs of battery out) I'd like to see a design that warned you better before you ran dry

Yesss...I was thinking this exact thing today. Once it starts blinking, that's it. If I let mine sit for, like, 5 minutes, I might be able to get 1 partial hit off it but it'll start blinking again...GRRRR, so frustrating.

 

[muldrick]

If you had a switch on the mouthpiece sensitive to higher than normal lip pressure, you could create an e-cig that had the benefits on a manual switch, that ran with some of what I feel to be the natural motions of smoking.

If i'm not mistaken, most people apply more lip pressure when sucking on something, no? I'm not sure how hard it would be to engineer, but it certainley seems like it would be worthwhile.

I was thinking along the same lines. The closest thing I came up with is THIS.
When you push on the cart/atty it "turns on".

 

[happily]

I don't know if anyone has realized this but there is already a switch on the market that does this. It is called an automatic battery and most of us have used them

 

[Antebellum]

I know I'm going of topic but does it annoy anyone else when the battery cuts completely when dead (my old one died slowly and you could squeeze the last dregs of battery out) I'd like to see a design that warned you better before you ran dry

Exactly! They need some sort of fuel gauge or even some kind of warning flash like --- ... --- to let you know that the battery will need recharging soon, sort of like the low fuel warning light in a car. A car doesn't sputter to the side of the road when the light first goes on.

What also bites is how the cartridges give out all at once. Be happily vaping along with great clouds and suddenly, scorched! Sucking burnt filling. Yuk!

We may now return this thread to the original topic.