Lipoma

[S Cee]

I have been doing some googling on relationship between Lipoma and vaping.
It is really nice to experience so much support in this forum and everyone is just sharing information and ideas. I started vaping about a month ago and I am eager to share and learn. Oh my GOD, I already received a like from Susan!

Thanks, I feel really welcome.

 

[catsitter]

So what have you found out so far about lipomas and vaping? Sounds interesting...

 

[S Cee]

The fact is I cannot find much correlations between the two, except that, only one very experienced member of this forum slightly mentioning it.
Any one out there have any input?

 

[Psycho67]

The fact is I cannot find much correlations between the two, except that, only one very experienced member of this forum slightly mentioning it.
Any one out there have any input?

I have what I believe to be a lipoma developing in my bicep, has been for over a year now.. I haven't been to the doc specifically for the tumor, so I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I have 95% certainty that it's a lipoma. I've been trying to think of the causes of this condition, and the only three things I can think of are vaping, heavy weight lifting, and random occurrence. Of course, it's natural to blame the "least healthy" habit on the reason behind lipoma development, or any unhealthy condition for that matter.. I'm sure if we developed skin cancer we would be wondering if vaping was to blame, but the unfortunate reality is that there is no scientific literature regarding the correlation between lipoma and vaping. It will be a long time before any reputable studies can be done regarding the long term effects of vaping.


NOW I will tell you this. Look up the chemical structure of triacylglycerol. Now look up the chemical structure of propylene glycol. Notice that the chemical structures are almost exactly the same. The only difference is that propylene glycol is missing a hydroxy group on the third carbon, with a hydrogen atom taking it's space. Note that fatty acids are stored in the body as triglycerides. Triglycerides are formed by the dehydrogenation reaction between triacylglycerol and free fatty acids. I would not be surprised if propylene glycol could undergo a similar reaction, where the two hydroxy groups of the propylene glycol of the electronic cigarette undergo dehydrogenation and fatty acids bind the propylene glycol. I'm 100% positive this reaction could happen in vitro, the only question is whether or not the body has biochemical pathways to facilitate this reaction. IF the body has mechanisms to bind fatty acids to propylene glycol, AND if the body does not have ways to metabolize fatty acids bound to propylene glycol, THEN, I would not be surprised to see cases of lipoma containing not only triglycerides with trace amounts of propylene glycol bound to fatty acids. I would love to do a biopsy on my lipoma and see if that was the case, because if it was the case, then it would mean the downfall of the vaping industry.

EDIT: I wouldn't love it because I dislike vaping... but I'd sure make a few dollars for the discovery!

 

[S Cee]

I have what I believe to be a lipoma developing in my bicep, has been for over a year now.. I haven't been to the doc specifically for the tumor, so I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I have 95% certainty that it's a lipoma. I've been trying to think of the causes of this condition, and the only three things I can think of are vaping, heavy weight lifting, and random occurrence. Of course, it's natural to blame the "least healthy" habit on the reason behind lipoma development, or any unhealthy condition for that matter.. I'm sure if we developed skin cancer we would be wondering if vaping was to blame, but the unfortunate reality is that there is no scientific literature regarding the correlation between lipoma and vaping. It will be a long time before any reputable studies can be done regarding the long term effects of vaping.


NOW I will tell you this. Look up the chemical structure of triacylglycerol. Now look up the chemical structure of propylene glycol. Notice that the chemical structures are almost exactly the same. The only difference is that propylene glycol is missing a hydroxy group on the third carbon, with a hydrogen atom taking it's space. Note that fatty acids are stored in the body as triglycerides. Triglycerides are formed by the dehydrogenation reaction between triacylglycerol and free fatty acids. I would not be surprised if propylene glycol could undergo a similar reaction, where the two hydroxy groups of the propylene glycol of the electronic cigarette undergo dehydrogenation and fatty acids bind the propylene glycol. I'm 100% positive this reaction could happen in vitro, the only question is whether or not the body has biochemical pathways to facilitate this reaction. IF the body has mechanisms to bind fatty acids to propylene glycol, AND if the body does not have ways to metabolize fatty acids bound to propylene glycol, THEN, I would not be surprised to see cases of lipoma containing not only triglycerides with trace amounts of propylene glycol bound to fatty acids. I would love to do a biopsy on my lipoma and see if that was the case, because if it was the case, then it would mean the downfall of the vaping industry.

EDIT: I wouldn't love it because I dislike vaping... but I'd sure make a few dollars for the discovery!

Thanks Psych67,
You hit many interesting and sensible points there. I have been waiting for response for the subject and hope more members will share opinion. Thank you very much.

 

[Caro123]

I have what I believe to be a lipoma developing in my bicep, has been for over a year now.. I haven't been to the doc specifically for the tumor, so I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I have 95% certainty that it's a lipoma. I've been trying to think of the causes of this condition, and the only three things I can think of are vaping, heavy weight lifting, and random occurrence. Of course, it's natural to blame the "least healthy" habit on the reason behind lipoma development, or any unhealthy condition for that matter.. I'm sure if we developed skin cancer we would be wondering if vaping was to blame, but the unfortunate reality is that there is no scientific literature regarding the correlation between lipoma and vaping. It will be a long time before any reputable studies can be done regarding the long term effects of vaping.


NOW I will tell you this. Look up the chemical structure of triacylglycerol. Now look up the chemical structure of propylene glycol. Notice that the chemical structures are almost exactly the same. The only difference is that propylene glycol is missing a hydroxy group on the third carbon, with a hydrogen atom taking it's space. Note that fatty acids are stored in the body as triglycerides. Triglycerides are formed by the dehydrogenation reaction between triacylglycerol and free fatty acids. I would not be surprised if propylene glycol could undergo a similar reaction, where the two hydroxy groups of the propylene glycol of the electronic cigarette undergo dehydrogenation and fatty acids bind the propylene glycol. I'm 100% positive this reaction could happen in vitro, the only question is whether or not the body has biochemical pathways to facilitate this reaction. IF the body has mechanisms to bind fatty acids to propylene glycol, AND if the body does not have ways to metabolize fatty acids bound to propylene glycol, THEN, I would not be surprised to see cases of lipoma containing not only triglycerides with trace amounts of propylene glycol bound to fatty acids. I would love to do a biopsy on my lipoma and see if that was the case, because if it was the case, then it would mean the downfall of the vaping industry.

EDIT: I wouldn't love it because I dislike vaping... but I'd sure make a few dollars for the discovery!

but psycho 57 how are you going to determine that the pg / vg in your vaping was the culprit when these products exist in numerous other consumable products. one would need to have a complete history regarding bacterial and viral infections and auto immune diseases and then there is the hormonal changes with some forms of weight lifting. I am far from an expert on lymphoma but causes of illness are often extremely difficult to identify and even when half as.., identified are often multidimensional in nature. -good luck with your quest though as discoveries are always interesting.

 

[Completely Average]

Given that lipoma commonly runs in families it is almost certainly a genetic condition, not one you get from vaping. In fact lipoma is often triggered by minor injuries such as a muscle pull while weightlifting, but the people who develop lipoma almost always have a family history of it. It's very rare to find someone with lipoma when no other person in their family has ever had it.