Little bit of help

[mcuthb37]

Hey everyone, I'll give you a bit of a back story so you know where I'm at. My buddy got me into vaping about a month ago, but I was around it with other friends. So I got the Chi You clone mod, 28 kanthal wire, I had the nimbus atomizer but long story short, it's gone and now I have the patriot. I love vaping, but I moved away from where I knew everybody to ask them questions when I had them and now I don't have too many options to go around school, so I need some help.

1. The connecting screw that the battery touches is always loose and falls off all the time, is there something I can do to prevent that? I have the sony lithium 18650 3.7 volt battery, which is the biggest battery I can use, but unless that screw is really lose, the battery cannot touch it. I have also tried loosing the screw that the connecting screw goes into, but that won't even get my vape to fire up.

2. I am definitely a cloud chaser, so how can I get the puffiest clouds? I've made 5 or 6 ring coils, but I don't know if that effects the clouds. I also have been trying out different PG/VG levels and think I like the 60/40 level, but have yet to try 80/20. Is that a big difference maker?

3. I am nervous about the vape blowing up or catching something on fire, and I realize accidents happen but I am normally very careful with the vape. Are there any ways to test out all the components while they are on to make it safer? I have an ohm reader, which I try to get to read about .4, but that is about as much safety as I know for the vape.

If somebody has some answers or suggestions or anything to chime in, I would appreciate it a whole lot, thanks!

 

[Baditude]

Oh, lord. Another noob using a setup recommended only for advanced vapers: a mechanical mod and RDA built for sub-ohm builds. (shakes head unapprovingly).

You are in over your head. I'd ditch the mechanical mod for the time being and get something safer and more beginner-friendly. Either a common regulated variable voltage mod or a 20 - 30 watt DNA-type regulated mod (if you must have the clouds).

With a mechanical mod, there are no safety features built-into the mod -- its just you, the battery holder, and the battery. Being an inexperienced vaper you don't know what things to look out for which could cause a short and result in a badly vented battery. You are already having issues with your mech mod which could have catastrophic consequences. Don't be like the fool who had a mechanical mod explode like a grenade at Vape Blast a couple of weekends ago. Vape Blast mod explodes in crowd of people


All that's left

With a regulated mod, the microprocessor has built-in protection circuitry so if a short is detected the mod will refuse to fire and give an error code. I can not stress how important this is for a new vaper. Once you've been vaping and picked up all the little things you learn through experience and research, then consider a mechanical mod.

 

[Kaezziel]

I stand behind Bad, 100,000%
For a self-professed "cloud chaser" you do not have the knowledge or experience to handle your gear. Add to that fact that the mod is faulty. Make no mistake about this statement... if you have loose parts that you cannot tighten, because if you do the mod will not fire, then you are firing a mod that isn't properly put together. This is a combination of things that come out to an accident waiting to happen... no matter how careful you may think you are being.

We are not trying to be mean to you, mcuthb37, we just know exactly what kind of predicament that you are in... and it isn't a good one. Do as Bad suggests and get a good regulated mod. You can still use your RDA on it. You can still get good clouds from it. Clouds depend on coil building skills much more than they do on what mod you use. It also depends on what juice you are using. In cloud competitions, they typically use 100% undiluted VG. So the closer you are to that, the more dense your vape will be.

Please, please take our advice to heart. Start with a regulated mod and get used to how everything works together... then upgrade your mod... even get a GOOD mechanical mod if you want. But get the basics and safety aspects down FIRST... stick around here a while... read as much as you can. Listen to the experienced vapers (such as Baditude and myself among MANY, MANY others here). Ignore the wannabe cloud chasers and youtube vids. We'll get you where you want to be, but you need to learn the "Wax on, Wax off" before you go into full on Karate Kid mode, okay?

 

[Baditude]

Just one more example of an exploding mod, in case the above incident wasn't enough.

 

[Kaezziel]

Looks like those pics didn't work, Bad...

 

[edyle]

Hey everyone, I'll give you a bit of a back story so you know where I'm at. My buddy got me into vaping about a month ago, but I was around it with other friends. So I got the Chi You clone mod, 28 kanthal wire, I had the nimbus atomizer but long story short, it's gone and now I have the patriot. I love vaping, but I moved away from where I knew everybody to ask them questions when I had them and now I don't have too many options to go around school, so I need some help.

1. The connecting screw that the battery touches is always loose and falls off all the time, is there something I can do to prevent that? I have the sony lithium 18650 3.7 volt battery, which is the biggest battery I can use, but unless that screw is really lose, the battery cannot touch it. I have also tried loosing the screw that the connecting screw goes into, but that won't even get my vape to fire up.

2. I am definitely a cloud chaser, so how can I get the puffiest clouds? I've made 5 or 6 ring coils, but I don't know if that effects the clouds. I also have been trying out different PG/VG levels and think I like the 60/40 level, but have yet to try 80/20. Is that a big difference maker?

3. I am nervous about the vape blowing up or catching something on fire, and I realize accidents happen but I am normally very careful with the vape. Are there any ways to test out all the components while they are on to make it safer? I have an ohm reader, which I try to get to read about .4, but that is about as much safety as I know for the vape.

If somebody has some answers or suggestions or anything to chime in, I would appreciate it a whole lot, thanks!

1: how many tubes on your chiyou? is it just 2 tubes or 3? if there's 3, then the short one which is about 15mm long is for when you use a drop in kick module. If you are not using a kick, then take out the short tube.

2: more VG makes more cloud. I recommend spending some time on 50/50. Flooding/too wet wick affects cloud also, so experience is important.

3: You nervousness is your healthy sense of self preservation; I'd pay close attention to it. Get a kick module for your mech; For safety's sake try to stay above 1 ohm while you are still new; 0.4 ohms is on the low side

You did not mention what battery you are using; the battery is the critical piece when you use low ohms.

 

[GinnyTx]

Mcuth these folks aren't wrong...

the guy that hooked me up for my very first vape did so on a rebuildable and he did me a disservice. Almost three and half months later I think I've got an iota of a clue, not even a whole clue about rebuildables, YouTube is your friend, and read read read, just about every question I google'd led me here so I read some more and YouTubed some more.

the danger is VERY real, I've seen some kids with some nasty wounds. I hear you ...you love clouds, but at this point you need to read a little, you'd know then that the VG is the cloud maker, and KNOW what you're consuming and doing before doing it. It won't take long, start googling your questions, ask your friend, get a good B&M (Brick and Mortar) shop that you can cater that has a sampling bar where you can figure out what flavors you like before purchasing, etc.

a good little set up for an intermediate to beginner has variable volt and wattage you can adjust is the Vision type eGo spinners and we use an Innokin MVP you'll find that each juice has it's "sweet spot" for vv and ww; and play around with PG/VG ratios to see what's best for you in flavor and vapor.

you'll get there and fast, especially if you've got a friend showing you things like you'll use a lower nicotine when dripping (found that out the hard way, it made my ears ring *lol* )and all kinds of fun stuff that goes with any new thing.

your tastes change and you progress through the different kinds of juice and hardware, patience has never been my virtue, but I"m a pretty technically savvy chick and I was in way over my head with that rebuildable when I was a brand new vaper, heck I still and and it's at my kiddo's for now, I can't be trusted near it *lol*

It's like anything you don't jump into drivers Ed in a Maserati..you'd kill yourself..get my drift?

good luck to you!!

 

[mcuthb37]

I appreciate everyone's responses and help. I probably will stay away from the mod for the time being to learn up more. Unfortunately, I cannot find anybody around here who knows about mechanical mods to teach me more, and it would be nice to see what they are doing in person, but I will keep reading up and watching videos. I already have an itaste mvp but I did not like having a lot of nicotine in those and without the nicotine, they did nothing to make me stop smoking cigs, which is why a friends friend directed me in the atomizer way. I was always nervous about getting one but he seemed to tell me everything I needed to know and said it wasn't too hard to figure anything out, but now I'm finding more out about these vapes and nobody to turn to.

 

[Baditude]

I feel bad for ya, bro. I don't know enough about the bottom-firing mechanicals to give ya any help. As much as I would prefer you use a regulated mod, perhaps as safer (IMHO) mechanical that won't have the issues of a bottom-firing mod (autofiring) would be in line. I recommend the Silver Bullet.

It has a recessed side-firing button, so it won't have the issues you're having now. A side-fire is more natural ergonomically, and doesn't need a locking switch. Wired switch, so that limits you to 0.5 ohm coils and higher. Made in Ohio, so in the rare event it should break down, it can be repaired by AltSmoke.

I still highly recommend that you research about Ohm's Law calculations and battery safety.

Inexpensive Mechanical Mod/RDA Setup

Explain it to the dumb noob: Ohms Law calculations

 

[Zach CC]

Learn from my mistakes man...I wrecked 4 VTC5's by using a faulty Stillare clone. I essentially welded the firing pin to the batteries because I didn't have an ohm reader and I still don't know if there was a short in my build or if the RDA itself was having issues. Just read up a little bit on safety and consider buying a cheap mod, perhaps a Kamry K101 (about $30). I wouldn't necessarily ditch mechanicals, just get one that's built better than your messed up Chi You. Good luck, be safe.

 

[Wraith504]

I like my mechs to have vent holes, now I am no expert, a battery venting and going into thermal runaway is one thing, but as far as pipe bomb goes... Where is the compression? If you make a pipe bomb (ATF please ignore this because yes i have done it.) It needs to be sealed that way the expansion of gas and air fights the compression of the tube. I just dont see that happening if the mod has vent holes.

 

[AshMPWrites]

Where are you located in IL? Near the city? Down south? The burbs?

Even if you're not buying at a B&M, it never hurts to have a place to go to learn more. There are a ton of great shops popping up nearly constantly that offer mods for beginners (the rv/rw) or kits (I saw the Kamry today someone mentioned above, it's really nice and pretty complete to start with) and the people working tend to have the patience of a saint and will take the time to go step by step to get you where you want to be on a product that is very safe.

 

[krobeson]

My first mod was that MVP2 you just mention and they are pretty good! You can even get a higher resistance RDA build to fire on it!! I've now moved up to a tatroe Atlas and I also have a few mech mods (Akuma clone and Caravela) and I still fall back to my regulated device over them and the tatroe goes up to 50W so I get my clouds too!! What is nice about it is that I can pop my nautilus on for my daily vape and then strap on my RDA to blow clouds!! Win/win