Long-time vaper looking for a new lease on vaping...help!

[Tracer13ullet]

I've browsed the e-cigarette forum before, and I've tried various means of vaping since I was about 19 years old, but up until now I couldn't seem to find a flavor, cartridge, or battery that would convince me to drop smoking for vaping.

That changed a little over a month ago when I bought an njoy King - the flavor was amazing, the nicotine strength was great, and oh my God, I coulda swore it was a cigarette by the look/feel! Too bad the damn thing barely last me two hours before it died...bought another, same problem. However, it had served a purpose - it had gotten me interested.

An online friend suggested I try the V2 e-cig, so I bought a starter kit and some spare carts. Though not nearly as cigarette-like as an NJoy King, it was still quite good, and the ability to recharge it and the fact that cartridges lasted a decent amount of time was a plus.

Then I saw that the offered special "LiquiMax" cartridges that allowed you to fill it with liquid and vape that - well, the flavor was OKAY on the V2 cartridges, but I thought I could do better. I lurked around this forums, looking for recommendations, and saw both here and on other locations online that the Patriot range of TotallyWicked was a great pick - I bought 3 30ml bottles and 3 LiquiMax cartridges, excited to try the new flavors.

Now, I started encountering issues - though the flavor was AMAZING compared to any liquid or cartridge I had tried before, the vapor production just felt off...Sure, I was getting decent clouds, but only pulling very hard on the e-cig, and even then I wasn't getting the clouds or throat-hit I've seen and heard other users describe.

Which brings me to my current dilemma - I can not go back to smoking. Just about to turn 23 and already suffering from the effects of smoking, and certainly no longer enjoying the hit to my wallet or my health, I'm ready to drop some money I've had saved for the right model of e-cig, but I have no idea where to start, and a lot of the terminology on this site is just too much for me to understand when I've already got tons of legal cases to be studying and papers to be writing.

So, E-Cigarette-Forum, I've found the liquid I like, but I need the right battery/cartridge to use it with - please help!

TL;DR: Long-time vaper recently found a new lease on vaping, really enjoying the TotallyWicked Patriot range of liquids, but needs the right E-Cigarette to use it with!

 

[jazon1]

get yourself a ego spinner or twist and a vivi nova tank and you will be in vaping bliss they are mush better then any cigalike out there the battery will last you all day and the vivinovas hit great and are easy to clean and fill and they have replaceable heads for them so they are cheep to maintain.

 

[Baditude]

Hi, Tracer.

Need to know a ball park figure of what you are willing to put into a complete setup.

Consider you are going to need a battery device, charger, multiple juice delivery devices, and e-liquid.

Are you interested in cigarette-size devices, the intermediate-sized eGo system, or the advanced PV's that use removeable-rechargeable batteries?

What size can the e-cig be? Larger batteries allow better performance, longer time of use, and more options in juice delivery devices.

size comparison: cigarette; 2 cigarette size batteries; 3 sizes of eGo batteries

an ego battery with a tank juice delivery device

a Provari, an advanced personal vaporizer or mod that uses replaceable-rechargeable batteries

 

[Tracer13ullet]

Hey Baditude and Jazon, thanks for the quick responses.

Ideally, the right size for the e-cig (if that's what the full units are called, I don't know official terminology) would be between a Cigar and a Cigarette - at least decently portable, though I mostly use it in front of my desk so I don't mind it being a bit hefty if it means higher quality / longer time between charges.

As for complete setup, maybe $120? Hopefully this would include at least a month or two's worth of liquid, though that's a non-issue.

Also, I've heard some people on the livechat say that TotallyWicked isn't all that great, are there any liquid manufacturers you'd highly endorse?

EDIT: Didn't see your pics the first time - I'd say somewhere around the larger sizes in the first picture or the 2nd picture.

 

[Baditude]

at least decently portable, though I mostly use it in front of my desk so I don't mind it being a bit hefty if it means higher quality / longer time between charges.

As for complete setup, maybe $120? Hopefully this would include at least a month or two's worth of liquid, though that's a non-issue.

That's a workable total for a nice setup. Like Jason recommended, you can get an eGo setup and some juice for that amount. We can work with that. Give me a second.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi and welcome to the forum!

The lack of, ummm, recommendation I guess you'd call it for Totally Wicked isn't due to the quality of their products - it's their prices and some other things that a little Googling will bring to light. It's hard to find good flavors, so if you like it, by all means go for it!

Twists & Spinners, which are similar and both very popular, are about the thickness of a cigar, but longer. This is what a 1000mAh eGo Twist looks like next to a cat:



ETA: I posted this just to illustrate the length of the battery. It's sitting in a vase, so it wouldn't fall over. I was actually shooting pictures of the drip tip, which is a one-of-a-kind glass tip I got for my 100th tobacco-free day. The tank is a 19mm XL glass tank from IBTanked.

 

[Rapture]

Hey Baditude and Jazon, thanks for the quick responses.

Ideally, the right size for the e-cig (if that's what the full units are called, I don't know official terminology) would be between a Cigar and a Cigarette - at least decently portable, though I mostly use it in front of my desk so I don't mind it being a bit hefty if it means higher quality / longer time between charges.

As for complete setup, maybe $120? Hopefully this would include at least a month or two's worth of liquid, though that's a non-issue.

Also, I've heard some people on the livechat say that TotallyWicked isn't all that great, are there any liquid manufacturers you'd highly endorse?

EDIT: Didn't see your pics the first time - I'd say somewhere around the larger sizes in the first picture or the 2nd picture.

as far as juice goes I would highly reccommend Mt Baker Vapor. 30ml for like 8 bucks. I never order anything less thank 30mls now, because if i love the juice 10 mls runs out quick. Ive tried about 20 different flavors from there and they are all really good. I think you can get 10mls for like 4 or 5 bucks. They always send free samples too. Also you could try Vapedudes. They are slightly more expensive but taste really good as well. Both vendors offer a HUGE selection. good luck

 

[zapped]

I beleive you can get a passthru for a twist and if not a I know you can get a 900mah Ego passthru for use at the pc.

 

[Baditude]

Recommended ego battery and juice delivery device vaping setup: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3706-4-good-starters-setup-beginning-vapor.html

A picture dictionary of popular and commonly found juice delivery devices: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

I have written several articles to help new vapors get started, which are in my blog. I've linked the ones that you would want to read immediately before making a decision on purchasing anything. Unfortunately, new members are not able to gain blog access until they have successfully posted 5 posts and allow the forums' system reset (less than an hour). These articles are too large to copy and past here, so make some additional conversation here and you will be able to see what is in the above links soon.

 

[Baditude]

 

[Tracer13ullet]

I keep seeing eGo and Twists being brought up, but I'm confused because when I search eGo on google a thousand possible hits come up, and I'm confused which one is official and which one has the "Twists" model.

@Ocelot - that looks like a nice piece, but something about it screams glassware to me... for anyone else this isn't an issue, but as a recovering alcoholic/addict I try to avoid things that remind me of using, so while some of the e-cig models look sleek and techy and don't set off my alarm bells, something about the pictured one seems both the right size and appearance to make me uncomfortable. Sorry for being so picky!

@Rapture - Thanks, I appreciate the recommendations. I was kind of hasty when I bought the V2/TotallyWicked stuff and didn't do enough research, and apparently I paid for it lol. I was just anxious to try and quit smoking. I've smoked maybe a pack since I bought this stuff, which was in the past 2 weeks, as compared to a pack a day, so it's certainly an improvement, but I'd like to cut the number of analogs (I think that's the term you use here) to 0.

@Baditude - I actually really liked the look of the ego battery combination you posted in the second picture you linked, any more info on that combination/something like it?

Again, thanks for all your help so quickly - thought it would take a week or more to get this much advice!

 

[HK-47]

http://www.vaporbeast.com/category_s/1845.htm?searching=Y&sort=13&cat=1845&show=10&page=2

This isn't a bad place to start, most likely. I actually just ordered one myself. I was hemming and hawing about springing for the more expensive mods such as a VAMO or Provari or whatever. I probably will....but later.

This kit gives you the chargers you need, 2 batteries, 2 tanks, drip tip etc. Even if you move on to something else, most vapers agree that smaller units like the eGo have their uses and work well for going out and about or trying new flavors and such.

Basically, this should serve you well for quite some time and work well as backups or to pass on to someone else who is just starting.

 

[chefdaddy903]

PROVARI, its worth the price for a perfect vape Evey time and a well made American made product.

 

[Tracer13ullet]

@HK-47 - Thanks for the recommendation man, but something about the length of the tubes that come with that kit sets me off - they look too thin and fragile.

@Baditude - You're awesome man, that's some really useful information. I'm interested in tanks more than I am a direct burning atmoizer, I think it was called? I'll be honest, for my starting kit, I'm looking for it to be as hassle-free as possible, so I have no excuses to buy a pack of bogies. Ideally, I'd like a decent size tank I can fill, screw in, smoke, and refill as many times as possible without worrying about possibly screwing it up too much. As for the battery, I'm not sure of the difference between the spinner and the twist, is there any?

Also, if it helps, I'm looking for something I can rip (pull on) fairly hard - I'm a deep-inhale smoker, and want whatever will allow me heavier clouds and better throat-hits.

 

[Baditude]

I keep seeing eGo and Twists being brought up, but I'm confused because when I search eGo on google a thousand possible hits come up, and I'm confused which one is official and which one has the "Twists" model.


@Baditude - I actually really liked the look of the ego battery combination you posted in the second picture you linked, any more info on that combination/something like it?

The links that I provided for you will have everything you need to know, including a link to a trusted online vendor (altsmoke) that sells genuine Joytech and Vision ego products. Altsmoke has made a business agreement with those manufacturers to add their logo on the products, too.

Also the video that I posted is also in the articles I wrote. The video is of a Vision Spinner, an ego battery with variable voltage control on it. The video explains itself.

ego is actually a "class" of batteries. Vision and Joyetech are brands that make ego batteries. Perhaps that was confusing. Once you are able to read the blog articles it will start to fall more into place.

 

[Baditude]

The Spinner and Twists are both considered "ego" batteries. Both very similar. Like comparing Ford with Chevy.

For juice delivery devices, I recommend trying as many types as you can to see which best fits "your vaping style". They all work a little differently. Everyone likes one over another, so no one device can be honestly said to be better than another. Only by trying them out can you know yourself.

The ego batteries are not extremely durable. They are considered semi-disposable, as they are only made to last 250 charges.

To gain more durability, you would need to move up to the more advanced mods that use replaceable-rechargeable batteries. Like below:



These are essentially battery holders with a firing button and a connector at the top to place the delivery device. The batteries that these use last over a year, and their charge per battery can last up to an entire day. These mods can last a few years, as only the replaceable batteries need to be resupplied once they start to fail to take a charge.

 

[bigbells]

I keep seeing eGo and Twists being brought up, but I'm confused because when I search eGo on google a thousand possible hits come up, and I'm confused which one is official and which one has the "Twists" model.

@Ocelot - that looks like a nice piece, but something about it screams glassware to me... for anyone else this isn't an issue, but as a recovering alcoholic/addict I try to avoid things that remind me of using, so while some of the e-cig models look sleek and techy and don't set off my alarm bells, something about the pictured one seems both the right size and appearance to make me uncomfortable. Sorry for being so picky!

@Baditude - I actually really liked the look of the ego battery combination you posted in the second picture you linked, any more info on that combination/something like it?

Interestingly enough, the unit in Baditude's second picture and the unit in Ocelot's picture are almost the same. Ocelot's unit is sitting in a small vase or a shot glass or something that's not part of the unit, and it's got a white drip tip (mouthpiece) and a colorful battery.

Your question about "what is the genuine?" is a good one. Apparently the eGo name was invented by an outfit called Joyetech, but it's used by all kinds of manufacturers. The same thing happens with other names and nomenclatures used throughout the industry. I haven't quite figured out why there aren't copyrights that prevent that from happening.

I'm certainly not going to argue against any other recommendations being made here, but here's mine, which does NOT come with "spinner" or "twist" batteries. The batteries are fixed voltage. It's the kit I started with and I have not "moved up" to anything else and have not been tempted to do so. Ego electronic cigarette

If you should decide to order, make sure you enter the discount code "March" before you complete the order, in order to get a 19% discount. The total cost would be $57 after the discount, with fast, free shipping via First Class Mail. (The customer service people there call it "ground shipping" but it's not. It's USPS First Class Mail.)

For ejuice, simply because of the great prices coupled with very good product, I recommend Mt Baker Vapor, as I believe someone else has also done.

 

[Tracer13ullet]

@ Baditude - I'm sorry to keep bothering you, but your advice has been awesome and your articles have been really useful. Having gone over the good starter's setup, I was looking at this as an option for a beginner setup - AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | eGo-C Starter Kit - Joye. It seems to be the next step up from an eGo spinner or eGo twist, and since I already have some liquid, I figure I could at least use 2 of the atomizers/tanks with my current juice (I hope I'm correct in presuming not to mix tanks/atomizers with different liquids). 250 charges per battery should last me roughly a year, which is more than enough time for me to consider if I'd want to upgrade to an APV.

Thanks again for all your help!

 

[Baditude]

Tracer, that starter kit is actually a step backwards. It is one of the earlier juice delivery devices that most people have moved away from. I would put that delivery device at the very bottom of my choices. The Spinner and Twist batteries are the top of the line in ego technology.

250 charges will last you just under a year if you are lucky. Batteries will likely need to be charged daily. That's if the battery lasts as long as expected. Sometimes the ego batteries just die prematurely. And as they age, they lose their ability to retain a full charge like new.

 

[Tracer13ullet]

Oh wow, close shave then. Is there a more current starter kit, or am I better off buying the parts individually?