[/QUOTE]@HK-47 - Thanks for the recommendation man, but something about the length of the tubes that come with that kit sets me off - they look too thin and fragile. [/QUOTE]
Almost all of these type of units have some elements of fragility to them. I suspect mostly what you were looking at was the tank on top of the unit that holds the liquid.
Essentially there are 3 types of liquid storage units. 1) Cartomizers = metal tube with polyfill batting that holds the liquid and an atomizer 2) Clearomizers = wicking system that draws the juice to the atomizer (can be top or bottom coil = where it heats, each have advantages) and 3) Tanks. Tanks often are basically a cartomizer surrounded by a 'tank' that stores the juice. As you draw the juice is pulled via suction into the cartomizer and then vaporized. Out of the 3, cartomizers are the 'strongest' as in not very easy to damage. A clearomizer or a tank attached to ANY vaporizer will need to be treated with some measure of care and you'll certainly not want to handle the unit by the tank or clearo except when removing it for cleaning or filling.
[/QUOTE]@Baditude - You're awesome man, that's some really useful information. I'm interested in tanks more than I am a direct burning atmoizer, I think it was called? I'll be honest, for my starting kit, I'm looking for it to be as hassle-free as possible, so I have no excuses to buy a pack of bogies. Ideally, I'd like a decent size tank I can fill, screw in, smoke, and refill as many times as possible without worrying about possibly screwing it up too much. As for the battery, I'm not sure of the difference between the spinner and the twist, is there any? [/QUOTE]
There are all kinds of tanks available, some of them with metal rings and glass tanks or some are solid metals. Most people tend to use (at the start) plastic tanks because they're cheap and somewhat disposable. There is a learning curve to using tanks, so I strongly recommend you read Bad's blog about how to maintain and work them. The Twist and the Spinner are essentially the same unit with slightly different battery ratings, and small features but are functionally pretty much identical.
[/QUOTE]Also, if it helps, I'm looking for something I can rip (pull on) fairly hard - I'm a deep-inhale smoker, and want whatever will allow me heavier clouds and better throat-hits.[/QUOTE]
3 factors go into that mainly, and this is one reason why you'd probably actually want a variable voltage device, even a cheap one like the Twist or Spinner.
1) Vapor production and throat hit are primarily affected by the liquid itself that you are using. Propylene glycol heavy bases (PG) are known for being thinner liquid that has a stronger flavor and a heavier throat hit. Less vapor than VG (vegetable glycerine). VG is a thicker liquid that is known for being smoother and creating more vapor but with less throat hit. Much of this is taste/feel subjective and that just requires experimentation to figure out what you like.
2) Battery power. If you're a heavy hitter, you WANT a higher end battery. Yes that means it's going to be taller and thicker, but if you buy a tiny guy and pull on it hard, you'll be very disappointed with how long the battery will last. 100 mAh = 1 hour of vaping is a kind of guide for how long batteries might last but that's also at 'moderate vaping.' You will want and/or need multiple batteries.
3) Device voltage and other specs. The reason why a lot of people recommend the Twists and Spinners as a starter kit is because you can, to a certain point, customize your vaping experience by varying the voltage. You'll have to do your own homework on what voltages are safe to use with what resistance atomizers and things like that. The short version is, the twist/spinner has a dial on the bottom you can turn to raise or lower the voltage. Raising the voltage leads to a hotter vape, and with a long draw should create a nice big cloud of satisfyingly warm vapor. Lower voltage makes this less powerful. Since you specified that you are a heavy hitter and deep dragger, you actually probably want to be able to dial in your voltage settings for the best, most satisfying experience. The Twist/Spinner is a cost-effective way to start, and a lot of long-time vapers keep and still use them even when they've moved on to bigger models.
Almost all of these type of units have some elements of fragility to them. I suspect mostly what you were looking at was the tank on top of the unit that holds the liquid.
Essentially there are 3 types of liquid storage units. 1) Cartomizers = metal tube with polyfill batting that holds the liquid and an atomizer 2) Clearomizers = wicking system that draws the juice to the atomizer (can be top or bottom coil = where it heats, each have advantages) and 3) Tanks. Tanks often are basically a cartomizer surrounded by a 'tank' that stores the juice. As you draw the juice is pulled via suction into the cartomizer and then vaporized. Out of the 3, cartomizers are the 'strongest' as in not very easy to damage. A clearomizer or a tank attached to ANY vaporizer will need to be treated with some measure of care and you'll certainly not want to handle the unit by the tank or clearo except when removing it for cleaning or filling.
[/QUOTE]@Baditude - You're awesome man, that's some really useful information. I'm interested in tanks more than I am a direct burning atmoizer, I think it was called? I'll be honest, for my starting kit, I'm looking for it to be as hassle-free as possible, so I have no excuses to buy a pack of bogies. Ideally, I'd like a decent size tank I can fill, screw in, smoke, and refill as many times as possible without worrying about possibly screwing it up too much. As for the battery, I'm not sure of the difference between the spinner and the twist, is there any? [/QUOTE]
There are all kinds of tanks available, some of them with metal rings and glass tanks or some are solid metals. Most people tend to use (at the start) plastic tanks because they're cheap and somewhat disposable. There is a learning curve to using tanks, so I strongly recommend you read Bad's blog about how to maintain and work them. The Twist and the Spinner are essentially the same unit with slightly different battery ratings, and small features but are functionally pretty much identical.
[/QUOTE]Also, if it helps, I'm looking for something I can rip (pull on) fairly hard - I'm a deep-inhale smoker, and want whatever will allow me heavier clouds and better throat-hits.[/QUOTE]
3 factors go into that mainly, and this is one reason why you'd probably actually want a variable voltage device, even a cheap one like the Twist or Spinner.
1) Vapor production and throat hit are primarily affected by the liquid itself that you are using. Propylene glycol heavy bases (PG) are known for being thinner liquid that has a stronger flavor and a heavier throat hit. Less vapor than VG (vegetable glycerine). VG is a thicker liquid that is known for being smoother and creating more vapor but with less throat hit. Much of this is taste/feel subjective and that just requires experimentation to figure out what you like.
2) Battery power. If you're a heavy hitter, you WANT a higher end battery. Yes that means it's going to be taller and thicker, but if you buy a tiny guy and pull on it hard, you'll be very disappointed with how long the battery will last. 100 mAh = 1 hour of vaping is a kind of guide for how long batteries might last but that's also at 'moderate vaping.' You will want and/or need multiple batteries.
3) Device voltage and other specs. The reason why a lot of people recommend the Twists and Spinners as a starter kit is because you can, to a certain point, customize your vaping experience by varying the voltage. You'll have to do your own homework on what voltages are safe to use with what resistance atomizers and things like that. The short version is, the twist/spinner has a dial on the bottom you can turn to raise or lower the voltage. Raising the voltage leads to a hotter vape, and with a long draw should create a nice big cloud of satisfyingly warm vapor. Lower voltage makes this less powerful. Since you specified that you are a heavy hitter and deep dragger, you actually probably want to be able to dial in your voltage settings for the best, most satisfying experience. The Twist/Spinner is a cost-effective way to start, and a lot of long-time vapers keep and still use them even when they've moved on to bigger models.
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See, Tracer? Everyone's in complete agreement about what your best choice is.
