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Ipv5 has been flawless for me so far.

How long have you had it? Is it the only P4Y mod you have used? I loved my ipv 2S, it worked out great for me, I just dropped it one too many times:sleep:. I just felt a little betrayed with the D2 after a great experience with the 2S, so I have been hesitant to give P4Y another shot.
 

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Definitely NOT the 213! Thinking about waiting for the IPV 6X, but I don't have much confidence in Pioneer4you since the IPV D2 (No step down, utterly useless temp control. Add to the fact that with in an obscenely short time period P4Y dropped about ~4 versions of the same mod)

What other options are out there that:

1- Wont break the bank
2- Compact 2x 18650
3- Reliable TC (specifically for SS as I have no interest in Ni or Ti)
4- Software updatable (Preferably, but not a deal breaker)

Thanks in advance!
Have 2 D2's and for those Not expecting step down, understanding Stepdown is available in TC mods to 50w or able to build to Mod Specs, they work great, never a problem.
As to Version releases, trying to keep up with consumer demands - something many manufacturers have not been concerned with.

Never understood busting on mods due to Personal preferences and poor pre-purchasing research :ohmy:

My recommendation is if not satisfied with availability either contact a manufacturer with Expectations and Hope or BYO(build your own:D)

2x18650+Processor board, can only get so small. o_O
 
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Have 2 D2's and for those Not expecting step down, understanding Stepdown is available in TC mods to 50w or able to build to Mod Specs, they work great, never a problem.
As to Version releases, trying to keep up with consumer demands - something many manufacturers have not been concerned with.

Never understood busting on mods due to Personal preferences and poor pre-purchasing research :ohmy:

My recommendation is if not satisfied with availability either contact a manufacturer with Expectations and Hope or BYO(build your own:D)

2x18650+Processor board, can only get so small. o_O

Inconsistent ohm readings, misfires, inconsistent TC... Those don't seem like personal preferences to me. Sure I may have jumped the gun and not read up on the D2 not having step down, just assumed it was a given to have step down as it is important for my style of vaping. Who knows, maybe I got a defective unit, either way, my D2 was a huge let down.

BYO is not really an option for me, unfortunately. I lack the equipment, time and most importantly skills to tackle that challenge.

Didn't think my request for a 2x 18650 that is compact was unreasonable. I mean, the 213 and 6X for factors seem about perfect. Just wanted to know if there was anything out there in the same style I was not aware of.
 
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Love my D2's. Never 1 issue. Skipped the D3 because it was redundant for me. Just added the "step down".
I only use ss in tc on my 5's and it works well.

I really love the form factor of the D2/D3. Fits in the hand very nicely, and feels solid. Agreed that the D3 was redundant. I just didn't like that very shortly after I purchased my D2, the "step down" versions hits the market! Ha ha ha, that's life. Might have to hold out a bit longer and see what peoples experience are with the 6X.
 
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I like if you don't hold the opinion of somebody else you either own stock or are an :censored:. People that do not own the mod bash it, so ask yourself who has the axe to grind.

Those with G.E.D.s would be wise to note this is social media and as such everyone's opinions counts.

I have never had problems with any mods I own and I own 9 regulated mods and 2 unregulated mods, all box mods. Been vaping since Sept 2015, which is not a lot of time, yet, no issues with any of my mods.
 

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What about a joytech cuboid or a eleaf istick 100w?

I'm just concerned with Joytech's 510. My RX suffers from the shallow 510 and from what I've gathered, so do the cuboids. In all honesty, I like the chip set. Heard nothing but great things about it. Have you had any problems getting attys/tanks with long 510's to sit flush?

If you're not totally sour on yihi chips,, try a 450q class. I hate the dual battery form factor. Not the q..

YiHi chips have gotten a good amount of praise, heard nothing but great things about the Q class. Wasn't considering it till now because of the price point. Basically, I'm going to save up more cash and in the mean time see how the 6X pans out. If it doesn't seem impressive, Q class here I come!:thumbs:
 
DefinLikeitely NOT the 213! Thinking about waiting for the IPV 6X, but I don't have much confidence in Pioneer4you since the IPV D2 (No step down, utterly useless temp control. Add to the fact that with in an obscenely short time periodP4Y dropped about ~4 versions of the same mod)

What other options are out there that:

1- Wont break the bank
2- Compact 2x 18650
3- Reliable TC (specifically for SS as I have no interest in Ni or Ti)
4- Software updatable (Preferably, but not a deal breaker)

Thanks in advance!

Like my Cuboid a lot. My Kanger Topbox eats batteries like crazy; it's in the closet. Review of the new Fuchi showed they did not fix the Sigeli temp fails.
 
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I'm just concerned with Joytech's 510. My RX suffers from the shallow 510 and from what I've gathered, so do the cuboids. In all honesty, I like the chip set. Heard nothing but great things about it. Have you had any problems getting attys/tanks with long 510's to sit flush?

I just picked mine up from a friend second hand, she did mention that some tanks have problems fitting. I run a arctic horizon and you have to make sure its fully on, but it works fine. Is the problem the tanks being too shallow and the connection in the device too long. If so just my macgyver thinking, you could always put a little copper wafer in there to buffer the connection. And ive even seen some tanks come with a set screw in the bottom of the 510 connection and it allows your to adjust the depth of the connection. Other then that its great. and you can get them from online shops for about $60, your looking to pay about $90 in a shop, especially up here in canada. And if you get the 150w version, there is a firmware update to make it a 200w unit. just some food for thought.
 
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Definitely NOT the 213! Thinking about waiting for the IPV 6X, but I don't have much confidence in Pioneer4you since the IPV D2 (No step down, utterly useless temp control. Add to the fact that with in an obscenely short time period P4Y dropped about ~4 versions of the same mod)

What other options are out there that:

1- Wont break the bank
2- Compact 2x 18650
3- Reliable TC (specifically for SS as I have no interest in Ni or Ti)
4- Software updatable (Preferably, but not a deal breaker)

Thanks in advance!

Gotta love the never ending search for "the perfect mod." If anybody were to write a dissertation on the pros and cons of all the mods, the results might challenge the 499 page deeming regs monstrosity. So I'll keep this short as it relates to the information/requirements asked/provided:

Since #4 is "not a deal breaker", I'll just ignore it until for now and perhaps for good unless it comes down to a final choice.

As far as "breaking the bank?" I guess that depends on how much it takes to "break the bank". Over $50, $250, or somewhere in between? My first thought is, depending on what that amount is, is there a need to find just one mod that does the trick. Looks to me like most responses indicate posters have multiple mods, a situation I find myself in as I too have not been able to find that one "perfect mod." So I would suggest, if it fits within your budget, take you two most important "needs" and find the mods that best perform each. Sounds like your first is "compact dual 18650" and second is "reliable TC."

I know you totally want to disregard the Sig and Fuchai 213, but I must say from my own experience, I don't know of any other mod that matches it in size, weight, and battery life. I've run mine 17 hours straight in power mode from 30 to 85 watts and still had battery left at the end of the day. For me, and adding in what I like in aesthetics, it is my closest thing to "the perfect mod." Ah, but the TC! Yep, it has some problems, but.....

I do not do a lot of TC vaping, just one titanium and a SS. And it is a pain switching between the two with the 213. But I have managed to dial in the 213 for my TFV4 mini with the Ti coil quite nicely. Since you only use SS, you might be able to do the same with that. But what I have found for my best solution is that I also have a Lavabox DNA200 that no other TC mod I have or tried can match the quality of the TC vape. As far as the TCR/TFR stuff, I currently don't use/need that, so can't won't comment other then say it seems some have made it work and some say not.

(498 1/2 pages to go! :oops:) Sorry for the length, but it is there now, so.........

IMHO, it comes down to, if you only do SS TC, see how the IPV 6X turns out. If you split between power and TC, consider two mods if it fits in your budget.....and the 213 does fulfill your "compact 2x18650 mod" title. And if you find a mod as compact/aesthetic/long battery life as the 213 that does great/perfect TC, let me know. I'll jump on it in a second regardless of price. Well, almost regardless.
 

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Inconsistent ohm readings, misfires, inconsistent TC... Those don't seem like personal preferences to me. Sure I may have jumped the gun and not read up on the D2 not having step down, just assumed it was a given to have step down as it is important for my style of vaping. Who knows, maybe I got a defective unit, either way, my D2 was a huge let down.

BYO is not really an option for me, unfortunately. I lack the equipment, time and most importantly skills to tackle that challenge.

Didn't think my request for a 2x 18650 that is compact was unreasonable. I mean, the 213 and 6X for factors seem about perfect. Just wanted to know if there was anything out there in the same style I was not aware of.

I understand your personal complaints as I have read post on almost every Regulated mod that someone has had issues with.
I am simply stating mine do not display those traits.
Are you referring to Changing Ohm in TC mode? this is a given - the Display is reading true shift, which has nothing to do with calculating Temp.
I have found, through testing Several TC mods - Room Temp will effect proper Lock/Output.
A mod left in a room which experiences a noted temperature drop will preform weak. on the flip side a rise in base temperature can cause False Dry Wick/No Liquid warnings.

Like you, I'd like a nice Compact Dual 18650 Regulated. At this point, I am sold on Yiha Chips......but not so much on P4Y themselves. Considering an SX due to overall Quality differences. But that darn Price point:ohmy:

............says the guy that just bought a Reo P67:glare:
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I have nothing bad to say about the IPVs that I bought. I only use power mode though so my experience with the IPVs is somewhat limited. The only thing about the IPVs is the Yihi chips. It made me graduate to the SX Mini M, then ML then Q class. That made things heavier on my wallet but overall I am a happy camper.
 

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Actually just came across this. It looks like its just a housing for two batteries and the atomizer is held on the side making it very compact. And it's only about 30 bucks for 100w.

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Actually just came across this. It looks like its just a housing for two batteries and the atomizer is held on the side making it very compact. And it's only about 30 bucks for 100w.

tesla-stealth-mod.jpg

The Tesla Stealth is an internal 2200mah LiPo with a 120watt max output, no adjusting though it is regulated like its brother the Tesla 2, reads the resistance and adjusts itself accordingly for what resistances it supports and what outputs for each. Only difference is the stealth allows to carry the tank recessed in its housing. Nice mod, and a great "Stealth" and compact unit, got one myself and love it for out and about where I need to be discreet with a Russian 91% or Kayfun Lite Plus V2. Still handles my OBS Crius and UD Bellus quite well at sub-ohm also.
 
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Gotta love the never ending search for "the perfect mod." If anybody were to write a dissertation on the pros and cons of all the mods, the results might challenge the 499 page deeming regs monstrosity. So I'll keep this short as it relates to the information/requirements asked/provided:

Since #4 is "not a deal breaker", I'll just ignore it until for now and perhaps for good unless it comes down to a final choice.

As far as "breaking the bank?" I guess that depends on how much it takes to "break the bank". Over $50, $250, or somewhere in between? My first thought is, depending on what that amount is, is there a need to find just one mod that does the trick. Looks to me like most responses indicate posters have multiple mods, a situation I find myself in as I too have not been able to find that one "perfect mod." So I would suggest, if it fits within your budget, take you two most important "needs" and find the mods that best perform each. Sounds like your first is "compact dual 18650" and second is "reliable TC."

I know you totally want to disregard the Sig and Fuchai 213, but I must say from my own experience, I don't know of any other mod that matches it in size, weight, and battery life. I've run mine 17 hours straight in power mode from 30 to 85 watts and still had battery left at the end of the day. For me, and adding in what I like in aesthetics, it is my closest thing to "the perfect mod." Ah, but the TC! Yep, it has some problems, but.....

I do not do a lot of TC vaping, just one titanium and a SS. And it is a pain switching between the two with the 213. But I have managed to dial in the 213 for my TFV4 mini with the Ti coil quite nicely. Since you only use SS, you might be able to do the same with that. But what I have found for my best solution is that I also have a Lavabox DNA200 that no other TC mod I have or tried can match the quality of the TC vape. As far as the TCR/TFR stuff, I currently don't use/need that, so can't won't comment other then say it seems some have made it work and some say not.

(498 1/2 pages to go! :oops:) Sorry for the length, but it is there now, so.........

IMHO, it comes down to, if you only do SS TC, see how the IPV 6X turns out. If you split between power and TC, consider two mods if it fits in your budget.....and the 213 does fulfill your "compact 2x18650 mod" title. And if you find a mod as compact/aesthetic/long battery life as the 213 that does great/perfect TC, let me know. I'll jump on it in a second regardless of price. Well, almost regardless.

The more the merrier! My budget, initially, was about ~$100 but I am rethinking it now. DNA200 would be very nice but I feel it might be "too much mod" for me. Plus Escibe will not work with Macs and I'm not savvy enough to run whatever programs and whatnot needed to work around it. I like your idea about potentially getting 2 mods- One for TC and one for Wattage. For example, instead of buying the Q Class... Maybe the Fuchai 213 AND the IPV 6X... hmm lots to think about now:thumb:

I understand your personal complaints as I have read post on almost every Regulated mod that someone has had issues with.
I am simply stating mine do not display those traits.
Are you referring to Changing Ohm in TC mode? this is a given - the Display is reading true shift, which has nothing to do with calculating Temp.
I have found, through testing Several TC mods - Room Temp will effect proper Lock/Output.
A mod left in a room which experiences a noted temperature drop will preform weak. on the flip side a rise in base temperature can cause False Dry Wick/No Liquid warnings.

Like you, I'd like a nice Compact Dual 18650 Regulated. At this point, I am sold on Yiha Chips......but not so much on P4Y themselves. Considering an SX due to overall Quality differences. But that darn Price point:ohmy:

............says the guy that just bought a Reo P67:glare:
:glug:
:facepalm:

Very familiar with the fluctuations in ohms for TC mode. The ohm fluctuations I was referring to are in power mode. For example: Built my RDA to .35 according to my ohm reader. On my RX200 it reads .35 but on my D2 it will read .30. No big really, the problem I have is when that same coil will be at .30 one hit then literally the nest hit it reads .35 then the third hit reads .40 and so on. This happens with every build, rda, rta and subohm tank I own. Again, maybe I got a defective unit but it was a big let down for me because of the amazing experience I had with the IPV 2S.

I do agree with you about YiHi vs P4Y. I might just wait longer and save the extra cash to pick up a Q class. Still undecided, with all the input everyone has been kind enough to provide it has given me even more to think about! Ha ha ha. How is the Reo working out for you? Always wanted one but can never seem to find one on the rare occasion I have enough scratch to buy?
 

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How is the Reo working out for you? Always wanted one but can never seem to find one on the rare occasion I have enough scratch to buy?

Will let you know. I have only ever shelled out bug bucks once before. SX Mini M Class was on sale for $149(Flash sale) when they were still $199. Everything else is in the $35-$60 range and I have a boat load of Regulated mods. :ohmy:(small boat)
Caught the Reo P67 in a 5:00PM Friday Restock Listing. 5:05 they were all gone:shock:
Only got it because they have a Great Reputation and the P67 is Flat Top for 22mm RDA's. Should be killer with a well built Velocity on top.:D

I Like your 2 for 1 theory also. Done it many times, especially with Sales Deals. China has been a Shiny Junky life saver:oops:
 
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