So the 5 carts i got with my RN4081 from SE Gold ruined the taste of analogs for me, in fact, I really really liked the taste of the SE Gold regular Tob carts.....Anyone know of a juice that is close to that? Cant stand the idea of paying the out of control prices for SE products to get more carts. If you havent tried the SE gold reg tob carts before, you should....it's divine.