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Looking for decently priced 1100mah EVOD kit

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djsvapour

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Now I don't see a Spinner kit on myepack but the mini protank kit for £19.99 includes

Pyrex Glass tank , 1.5ml Capacity Ego Threading
All Parts are replaceable
1 x Stainless Steel 650 mah Evod Battery
5 x Spare Coil Heads 2.2ohm
1 x USB charger

So that's all fine except for the 650mah battery. I assume the iclear16 clearomisers replace the pyrex glass tank (it's not specified that the iclear 16 clearomisers are glass, so can you confirm that?) and the heads come in 1.5ohm or 2.1ohm, which I have no idea what difference that makes but as the ones with the kit are 2.2ohm I assume I'd need the 2.1ohm?

There isn't a Spinner kit. Pity.

You shouldn't worry about the 650 battery, you're hardly paying anything for it anyway (effectively) and it's good. I used mine yesterday for a day out with family.

iClear16s are not glass (pyrex) clearomisers, they are plastic. I buy the 2.1 ohm ones, yes.

Keep asking. :)

Are you already vaping?
 

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doveman, I think you said you only smoke about 10 ciggies a day? if so, a 650 mAh battery should last you for most of the day.

Re buying from ebay - believe it or not, but ebay banned the sale of e-cigarettes over 4 years ago! Therefore, any seller selling e-cigs are breaking ebay rules & could be banned at any time & that would mean you would have a heck of a problem if you ended up with any faulty goods.
 

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doveman, I think you said you only smoke about 10 ciggies a day? if so, a 650 mAh battery should last you for most of the day.

Re buying from ebay - believe it or not, but ebay banned the sale of e-cigarettes over 4 years ago! Therefore, any seller selling e-cigs are breaking ebay rules & could be banned at any time & that would mean you would have a heck of a problem if you ended up with any faulty goods.

OK, I don't really know what 10 cigs/day translates into in terms of battery, or liquid strength, etc so maybe a 650mah battery will be enough for me, although I suppose I might enjoy vaping so much I increase my usage, even if it's only flavoured, nicotine free, liquids ;)

I find it very surprising that e-bay have banned e-cigs as there's so many on there. I know nicotine products aren't allowed, so are you sure it's not just those disposable e-cigs that contain nicotine that are banned?
 

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There isn't a Spinner kit. Pity.

You shouldn't worry about the 650 battery, you're hardly paying anything for it anyway (effectively) and it's good. I used mine yesterday for a day out with family.

iClear16s are not glass (pyrex) clearomisers, they are plastic. I buy the 2.1 ohm ones, yes.

Keep asking. :)

Are you already vaping?

Nope, not vaping yet. I've read/been advised to only use glass clearomisers though, due to the plastic ones having issues with some liquids. Are EVOD clearomisers glass and if not, what's the difference between them and the iClear16s?

Considering what Chrissie said, maybe a 650mah will be OK for me but then again, I'll probably want a variable anyway and won't use the non-variable that comes with a kit, so I'm still not convinced getting a kit with parts I don't want is the way to go when I can get a better deal buying the parts I do want separately :)
 

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OK, I don't really know what 10 cigs/day translates into in terms of battery, or liquid strength, etc so maybe a 650mah battery will be enough for me, although I suppose I might enjoy vaping so much I increase my usage, even if it's only flavoured, nicotine free, liquids ;)

I find it very surprising that e-bay have banned e-cigs as there's so many on there. I know nicotine products aren't allowed, so are you sure it's not just those disposable e-cigs that contain nicotine that are banned?

Hi again.

650mAh is plenty for a 10 a day smoker. Easy-peasy. 2 of them and bingo, off you go. This makes all the decisions much easier, I promise you.

In regard to the ebay issue. Chrissie (amongst other things) was an early pioneer of ecig discussion on ebay (I hope that's right Chrissie)
Every item on ebay will be listed as "Shisha" or "e-shisha" or simply eGo + CE4, evod, whatever.
ebay are turning blind eye to it all. Anything stating e-cig will not last more than 48 hours, and anything saying nicotine will not make even 2-3 hours, from what I have seen. There are posh "mod" e-cigs and all sorts of eGos on ebay. Everything you could wish for.
However, 95% of the standard ego battery and clearomisers etc. will be the lowest of the low from a clone factory in China.

I found an item on ebay for £19.99. I bought the same thing direct for £3.19. The ebay sellers are way ahead of the game, they know how to sell "unknown" products for more profit than a UK vendor makes on proper branded Kanger/Innokin/Vision equipment.
i.e. battery on ebay £7.99 bought from back of beyond for £2.
battery on a vendor £10.99 bought from Kanger or Vision for £6.00.

I would not take my chances with a £2 battery. The battery/mod is the most important bit of vaping, hence why we have a few and back-ups too.

That's it. I'm away now for a few days.

(I'll be on AAEC off and on until Monday lunchtime....on my phone, probably....)
 

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Here you go Doveman - link to ebay policy -

Tobacco policy

And as you will see, under items not allowed "Electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) and components"

As djsvapour says, I was an early pioneer of discussing e-cigs on the ebay forums. As there was a lot of interest among the ebay community for more info about them, I set up an ebay group (over 5 years ago) called All About E-cigarettes. Within just a few months, the group had over 600 members. However, when ebay banned the sale of e-cigarettes, I was given 24 hours to remove all links to e-cigs posted in the group. As you can imagine, that made the group as good as useless so we more or less just deleted everything & I set up AAE-C UK via a Proboard.
 

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Here you go Doveman - link to ebay policy -

Tobacco policy

And as you will see, under items not allowed "Electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) and components"

As djsvapour says, I was an early pioneer of discussing e-cigs on the ebay forums. As there was a lot of interest among the ebay community for more info about them, I set up an ebay group (over 5 years ago) called All About E-cigarettes. Within just a few months, the group had over 600 members. However, when ebay banned the sale of e-cigarettes, I was given 24 hours to remove all links to e-cigs posted in the group. As you can imagine, that made the group as good as useless so we more or less just deleted everything & I set up AAE-C UK via a Proboard.

Thanks for the info Chrissie, seems like they don't police it very actively considering the number of listings I saw. I guess they wait until someone reports a listing.

I didn't even realise e-cigs had been around for 5 years as I've only just heard of them and vaping :)
 

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As far as I know, all Evod clearomisers are plastic. For glass/pyrex, you need to look at something like the Protanks.

Yep, e-cigs have been around for over 5 years - as per my signature, I got my first one in July 2008. There wasn't much choice back then & you could only buy tiny prefilled cartridges.
 

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As far as I know, all Evod clearomisers are plastic. For glass/pyrex, you need to look at something like the Protanks.

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Yes, Evod clearomisers are plastic. Kanger T3S are also plastic but bigger and possibly better i.m.o. The Pyrex ones are the Mini Protanks.

I have 3 evods (don't use them at all) and 4 mini Protanks. Virtually identical vape, but the metal and glass minis are not great in cold weather.... so I'm using T3S instead.
 

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As far as I know, all Evod clearomisers are plastic. For glass/pyrex, you need to look at something like the Protanks.

OK, now I'm confused again as I understood that plastic clearomisers had problems with certain liquids but I've had a lot of recommendations for the EVOD. The Protanks seem to cost about three times the EVODs, so if that's what I need it's obviously going to increase my running costs quite a bit (how long would a EVOD or Protank be likely to last me anyway?) but there's no point saving money and getting the EVODs if I'm going to have problems with them.
 

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OK, now I'm confused again as I understood that plastic clearomisers had problems with certain liquids but I've had a lot of recommendations for the EVOD. The Protanks seem to cost about three times the EVODs, so if that's what I need it's obviously going to increase my running costs quite a bit (how long would a EVOD or Protank be likely to last me anyway?) but there's no point saving money and getting the EVODs if I'm going to have problems with them.

If cost is an issue, go with the evods. £3.49 or something. I prefer the T3S, but only because it's bigger and you can see how much liquid you have....it's entirely clear.
The cheapest mini Protank is more expensive, clearly. The replacement heads are the same price.
E-liquid CAN crack a plastic tank, sure. However, it is very rare. I make all the "known" liquids (homemade citrus and/or cinnamon flavours) and not cracked one yet.
My evods are a year old (?) and my mini Protanks 3-6 months. Nothing is really expensive over those periods of time.
The running costs are in the replacement atomiser heads.
 

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If cost is an issue, go with the evods. £3.49 or something. I prefer the T3S, but only because it's bigger and you can see how much liquid you have....it's entirely clear.
The cheapest mini Protank is more expensive, clearly. The replacement heads are the same price.
E-liquid CAN crack a plastic tank, sure. However, it is very rare. I make all the "known" liquids (homemade citrus and/or cinnamon flavours) and not cracked one yet.
My evods are a year old (?) and my mini Protanks 3-6 months. Nothing is really expensive over those periods of time.
The running costs are in the replacement atomiser heads.

OK, if they last that long then I don't really have to worry about the extra cost so might as well get the mini Protank to be safe :)
 

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:)

Yes, Evod clearomisers are plastic. Kanger T3S are also plastic but bigger and possibly better i.m.o. The Pyrex ones are the Mini Protanks.

I have 3 evods (don't use them at all) and 4 mini Protanks. Virtually identical vape, but the metal and glass minis are not great in cold weather.... so I'm using T3S instead.

Hmm, what happens with the mini Protank in cold weather then?
 

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Hmm, what happens with the mini Protank in cold weather then?

It gets really cold and doesn't vape as well. :)

Hot vapour out of a cold tube....not ideal. I've been off them now for a month. I will go back though...they are excellent.
I'm using T3S ones out and about on my travels.
 

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It gets really cold and doesn't vape as well. :)

Hot vapour out of a cold tube....not ideal. I've been off them now for a month. I will go back though...they are excellent.
I'm using T3S ones out and about on my travels.

Ah, makes sense. It's a bit tricky then being in a cold country as it means we have to get plastic and take the risk of it cracking or glass and have it not vape so well. Or get plastic and limit what liquids we use. I appreciate you've never had a plastic tank crack on you but knowing that they are vulnerable is a bit worrying and I'd rather not risk it.
 

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Thinking about it, knowing that a 650mah battery will last me all day doesn't help that much as I want to get a variable voltage one and they only seem to come in 1000mah (EVOD twist) or 1300mah (Vision Spinner) for £14.99 or £17.99 respectively (from myepack).

So I could just get one of those, which should last me all day and I'll charge it overnight, along with a mini Protank v2 (I think I read that v1 used glue which wasn't good with certain liquids) and/or T3S, a charger and some heads.

EDIT: Is it the Protank 2 or the Protank 2 v2 that has had the glue problem fixed?

EDIT2: I'm also still baffled by the ohm ratings of the heads and don't have any idea which I should get for use with a Protank and Spinner battery or T3S and Spinner battery. Do Protank heads fit in the Protank 2 and 2 v2? I presume so as I can't see any heads specifically for those on the site.
 
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Yes, you could go with a single battery....but, it's a big risk, so back it up with something (anything) to make sure.

I vaped the other day with an evod 650, it was great. No problem at all. You could even pick up spares as you go along.

I tend to use 1.8ohm heads, as they work on everything. However, a 2.0/2.1/2.5 etc would be good on a Spinner. Protank heads fit protanks (both sizes) evods etc. Kanger are moving to a universal replacment head, but I order T3S heads for the T3S.

If you want more help on Kanger stuff and myepack generally, why not ask on AAEC-UK. There are loads of people on there who can help.
 
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