Thanks very much for info. I didn't know they use Flavor West, I asked them what percentage they use and all they could tell me is they start at 15% and no sweetner added. They could not tell me anything else. I was told by another vendor x is usally 1.5 ml so I will try this. I have wasted lots of ingredients experimenting but guess everyone does before they get it right.
LOL ... It's not a matter of what they "could" tell you ... you need to replace that word with "won't"
They are in business, and are sure not giving out any trade secrets.
Yes, getting it right is a long process, and does cost a few $$$.
I have 8 mods going at all times.
Some are new recipes I'm trying .. some are recipes that have needed a little tweaking, and a re-try, before going into
the "keeper" file or "nope" file, or the "try again" file...
Some are ones I'm trying out that were store bought ones (all about 2-8 months old)
I started DIY a few months ago, and all I do is make one 3ml test recipe after the other.
I stay well ahead of myself, so they all have steeped about 3-4 weeks, to bring out the real flavor.
I figure that by the time I finish all the store bought ones, I' have a good collection
of recipes I really like.
I already have about a dozen in the "Yummy Keeper" file.
I'm also getting better at what goes with what and the % to use.
I orginally bought a "sampler" pkg from just about everybody, and they will still be around for a while,
as I only puff up about 3-4ml's a day
I haven't "bought" any for a long time, but I do have a cupboard full of flavorings now.
There is a lot of trial and error, as the flavor's don't always turn out like the head thought they would.
But it's been fun, and I figure about 3 years from now, I'll be sitting pretty with tons of GOOD juice recipes.
Also a lot more cupboard space left when the "samplers" are all gone.
Have fun and enjoy the ride ... It's a "hobby"