Looking for vendor selling nicotine diluted into organic VG

[BobbyJohn]

I'm looking for a nicotine concentrate that is diluted into a certified organic VG.

Does anyone know a company that sells this or is willing to dilute their nicotine into organic VG?

 

[FACE MEAT]

The highest concentration I've seen is 100mg/mL. I'm not aware of any companies that sell nicotine diluted in organic VG.

Might I ask why you need the VG to be organic?

 

[cags]

where do you get organic vg? I've only heard of pharma, food and (some other grade)...

 

[FACE MEAT]

I googled "organic VG" and there are places that sell it. I'm not sure what makes "organic" VG different from regular VG.

 

[Buckshot]

VG is made from lots of things all plants and animals....both organic. Kosher, that's another topic.

 

[Buckshot]

Is there any companies that sell pure nicotine and I can dilute it myself? I realize how dangerous nicotine is, please don't give the speech.

Obviously you don't.

 

[subver]

I don't think you will find pure nicotine online, and it's an incredibly terrible idea.

 

[FACE MEAT]

VG is made from lots of things all plants and animals....both organic. Kosher, that's another topic.

I think the OP is referring to a certified organic product, not a product that's produced from organic (once living) ingredients.

 

[DeeDee1234]

Will this work for you

Wizard Labs vegetable-derived Glycerin is produced using USP grade Kosher certified Glycerin with a minimum 99.7% purity. Our Vegetable Glycerin is only made from non-GMO sources of palm or other vegetable oils, and is suitable for use as a carrier base and dilutant for Wizard Labs organic Nicotine solutions.

 

[Kurt]

I don't know who sells nic in organic VG. Organic VG is generally VG from organically grown palm, and I have heard of some brands that do the hydrolysis of the vegetable oil with less toxic materials, but I cannot say who does that.

The bottom line is the VG should be USP. The actual effects of "organic" raising and producing, once USP purity is there, is largely symbolic, and not anything that has an actual benefit, as far as I know.

BTW, VG is vegetable only, and does not include animal fat sources. "Glycerin" like CVS brand can in principle have animal products, but most often it is vegetable...but is not required to be.

 

[BobbyJohn]

Might I ask why you need the VG to be organic?

Because I desire glycerin that isn't made from GMO's, potentially has residual pesticides and I am an organic farmer that believes (for myself) that it is the best thing.

where do you get organic vg? I've only heard of pharma, food and (some other grade)...

Palm-Free Organic Glycerin - FNWL

Best source I've found so far. It is USP grade as well.

Obviously you don't.

Really? The LD50 for nicotine is 1mg/1kg. And pure nicotine is 1000mg/ml. And I weigh 180lbs, which is ~81kgs. So about 1/10 of a ml would be enough to kill me 50% of the time. Any other questions? Or can you respect my request to not be lectured like a little child?

I don't know who sells nic in organic VG. Organic VG is generally VG from organically grown palm, and I have heard of some brands that do the hydrolysis of the vegetable oil with less toxic materials, but I cannot say who does that.

The bottom line is the VG should be USP. The actual effects of "organic" raising and producing, once USP purity is there, is largely symbolic, and not anything that has an actual benefit, as far as I know.

BTW, VG is vegetable only, and does not include animal fat sources. "Glycerin" like CVS brand can in principle have animal products, but most often it is vegetable...but is not required to be.

Yes, a lot of glycerin is made from palm, which some of you may know is the primary reason that orangutangs are losing all their habitat. So supporting it isn't a great idea. The glycerin I have linked is made out of soy... not my favorite crop, but I will take it.

Glycerin is very simple to make. Add methanol and sodium hydroxide (lye) to vegetable oil, separate out oil from glycerin. In fact glycerin is a waste by-product of making biodiesel.

 

[cedric212]

I'm looking for a nicotine concentrate that is diluted into a certified organic VG.

Does anyone know a company that sells this or is willing to dilute their nicotine into organic VG?

I already have organic VG. Is there any companies that sell pure nicotine and I can dilute it myself? I realize how dangerous nicotine is, please don't give the speech.

Don't know anyone selling nic in organic VG, try contacting John from WL and see if he can help you.

As to your second question, read this sticky:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ew-rules-applied-nicotine-discussion-ecf.html

 

[BobbyJohn]

Don't know anyone selling nic in organic VG, try contacting John from WL and see if he can help you.

As to your second question, read this sticky:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ew-rules-applied-nicotine-discussion-ecf.html

Gotcha, didn't see that. Will do. I have already contacted John and said he needed to talk with his distributors.

 

[Kurt]

Yes, a lot of glycerin is made from palm, which some of you may know is the primary reason that orangutangs are losing all their habitat. So supporting it isn't a great idea. The glycerin I have linked is made out of soy... not my favorite crop, but I will take it.

Glycerin is very simple to make. Add methanol and sodium hydroxide (lye) to vegetable oil, separate out oil from glycerin. In fact glycerin is a waste by-product of making biodiesel.

Nice to see someone else understand the chemistry of glycerin and biodiesel. I have made biodiesel as a teaching chemistry lab in the past, and this is precisely how we made it, separating the glycerin/methanol layer in the end. Messy lab, but the students like it, and it was how I learned about how glycerin is made, and the various sources that it can be made from.

I did not know about the eco-impact of palm. Thanks for the info. I personally am not a fan of the soy industry, just because I think it is a crop that males especially should try to avoid. We made our biodiesel from frier oil, which I am guessing is mostly canola, sunflower and corn, but I never knew exactly what the oil was.

 

[sachavaca]

the only problem with supporting soy is almost all soy seed sold in usa is from monsanto and they are not organic

Monsanto: THE BAD SEED

nice to see another organic farmer

 

[SouthernBliss]

The only fair trade organic VG I found was made from palm and it only seemed to be food grade. I guess you can't win.

 

[Kurt]

Yes, about 85% of all soy is GMO. Not a fan of any GMO, myself. At all. And while all VG is technically synthesized (from veg oil), glycerin made from smaller carbon molecules would be much more expensive.

 

[whyanon]

I think it is a crop that males especially should try to avoid.

I did some googling based on your statement. All i can say is, wow, i've never heard of this before. Very interesting revelations indeed.
I guess i won't be reaching for the wife's soy milk whenever i find myself out of reg milk for my morning coffee.
Learn something new everyday on ecf.

 

[subver]

Well damn, I should probably stop eating all these soy "chicken" nuggets... I'm not even a vegetarian but they're so good..