Lots of Vapor - you get what you pay for

[DiNet]

About a month.

Not defending them. They don't ship internationally, so there's no way for me to try out them
Just from experience, took me some time till I started to taste things for what they are.
And issues with "equipment", got one drip tip in boiling water as I'm writing this post. Saturated with tobacco taste from HHV juice, washed tank, changed wick and filled vivi with white rabbit and still was getting strong hints from serendipity
I'm on white rabbit now for a week and can assure you that after cleaning clearo I'm not always getting flavor out of the juice. Sometimes half a tank, sometimes it's good right away. Sometimes battery...

 

[DavidOck]

So here's the test run results for the flavors I tried from lotsofvapor.com:
Raspberry - the closest thing I can compare this one to is what burning raspberry scented plastic must taste like

Uh, what kind of hardware are you using? Might you be having a problem with too high a voltage or too low a resistance? I know that with my Spinner I can radically change the taste of any juice in the clearo by changing the voltage.

 

[vsummer1]

So here's the test run results for the flavors I tried from lotsofvapor.com:
Raspberry - the closest thing I can compare this one to is what burning raspberry scented plastic must taste like

Uh, what kind of hardware are you using? Might you be having a problem with too high a voltage or too low a resistance? I know that with my Spinner I can radically change the taste of any juice in the clearo by changing the voltage.

I agree with that! If you are using things like clearos, you aren't going to get a good clean flavor compared to dripping or RBA's. Equipment and watts matter. So do individual taste and steeping time. There are so many variables! The same juice in a clearo vs. an RBA is a completely different juice. There are some vendors whose "base" I just don't like, while others there are only one or two in the entire line I like. This is exactly why I don't listen to juice reviews, no one has my taste buds burning juice on the same equipment with the same watts.

You really need to try a few more vendors before judgement, and then you need to include equipment and settings along with steep time. Who knows? It may be operator error on your part giving you the plastic taste. Also, what tastes like poop to me may be your favorite, and vice versa. There is a tab at the top of this forum with vendors who have been found to deal fairly. There is also a section here for you to complain that you are missing a quarter of a ml of juice in your bottles. There is also a section where you can find coupon codes and deals so you don't have to pay so much. There are also contests where you can win free juice.

 

[Lethalp]

Mount Baker Vapor also has great prices and super fast shipping, plus they offer flavor shots for .25¢ each. Loads of Flavors, good reviews and an ecf discount.

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[TBPlayer2112]

I'll second another recommendation for EC Blend. I've ordered from them a few times in the last 2 months and their juice is quality stuff at a VERY reasonable price. I'm fairly new to vaping but they're one of the 3 vendors I'm using atm. Just gotta let the juice steep cause they make most everything to order. They're also close to ya in south west Oregon.

 

[Khilbron]

I order all my e-liquid from USA Made Vapor Renu : Electronic Cigarettes Refill Cartridges : Candy Flavorings : E Cig Liquid Nicotine : Cartomizer Refills : Menthol E-Liquid : Flavoring Oils : E Cigarette Refills.
30ml for $7.50 and they let you customize it anyway you want.
Here are some of the extra's they will add to your liquid
Ginko Biloba Leaf Extract (.81mL)
Ginseng (.11mL)
Green Tea Extract (.07mL)
Milk Thistle (.06mL)
Papaya Leaf Extract (.15mL)
Vitamin B12 (.29mL)
Vitamin C (.66mL)

They even do Caffeine, so you can get a tank solely for that burst of energy when needed.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

. I'll let the pics speak for themselves. Let's just say I won't be ordering from them again. Oh, and here's the kicker. Their online FAQs state that they do indeed include 5ml but in a 7ml bottle and that is why the liquid is not filled to the top. Well, on the very right and left you will see what I received from The Vapor Spot. The middle bottles, with the needle points, are from lotsofvapor dot com. The bottles are the same width, the same circumference, so the levels should, at the least, be the same.
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Actually, Back to the OP's original complaint.....

Those 4 bottles with the needle caps, do indeed have "approximately" 5ml of liquid in them, as any juice DIY'er that uses 5ml bottles of that type can tell you. The 2 end bottles, from those pics, appear to be the 5ml glass bottles, and while they may have the same width and circumference, they do not have the same shoulder height. Also, if they are indeed glass, they will not have the same inside diameter also. Those factors, Shoulder height and material (glass) can make the outer 2 bottles appear to be "brimming" full and leave the other bottles appear lacking.

Personally, it looks to me that lotsofvapor gave you what you wanted, in a professional looking container that you can reuse for mixing yourself, while the items from Vapor Spot look like something I would do for myself or my wife and never try to sell.. The look makes me question the quality, and thus, the quality control put into the juices, just from the pics presented.

I won't even go into the prices you paid...

 

[mmikee]

you could always try ecblend. they are US based. i ordered 13 5ml bottles i'm waiting to steep..the couple i tried so far have been pretty good.

ECBlend E-Liquids - Something Better
4 oz (125 ml) $35.00
50 ml $14.65
30 ml $8.99
15 ml $5.95
5 ml $2.50

there is a 5% off code as well and they have excellent presentation (lots of documentation and extras that come with your order)...i will definitely order from them again.

There is actually a 20 % coupon..."10020"

 

[lilkillachris]

MADVAPES! 50ml 13.89 Iv used them for Cherry tobacco for over year

 

[purplecat001]

Actually, Back to the OP's original complaint.....
Those 4 bottles with the needle caps, do indeed have "approximately" 5ml of liquid in them, as any juice DIY'er that uses 5ml bottles of that type can tell you. The 2 end bottles, from those pics, appear to be the 5ml glass bottles, and while they may have the same width and circumference, they do not have the same shoulder height. Also, if they are indeed glass, they will not have the same inside diameter also. Those factors, Shoulder height and material (glass) can make the outer 2 bottles appear to be "brimming" full and leave the other bottles appear lacking.
Personally, it looks to me that lotsofvapor gave you what you wanted, in a professional looking container that you can reuse for mixing yourself, while the items from Vapor Spot look like something I would do for myself or my wife and never try to sell.. The look makes me question the quality, and thus, the quality control put into the juices, just from the pics presented.
I won't even go into the prices you paid...

No, they are ALL plastic bottles. And yes, as I previously stated, the prices paid for VS were ridiculously overpriced and the prices paid for LOV were low, but junk juice. The reason I posted here was so that others would know what they might be getting. I do NOT dislike all vaping juices as I wrote, just the juices I received from LOV. The entire line I received from LOV tasted horrible. This is on an eGo-C twist and I tried them on every voltage. Be my guest to tell me otherwise once you've tried them.
This is a review of MY experience with them. I posted the photos purposefully, and that is to give a factual representation. If you see nothing wrong, then that is your right. But I have determined for myself they are not something I want to put into my body. And trust me, I kept trying to like LOV's e-juice.
FYI, the hand-written labels are from a vapor bar where they mix the juice then and there after you try and determine your choice. I personally could care less about what the labels look like and more about the juice itself. But again, that is personal preference.

As a new member, I was only permitted to post here, so that is where I posted.

As for everyone else, I just want to thank you again for your help in directing me to more reputable dealers. I'm looking at Velvet Vapors. I don't mind paying a little more if its true quality (just preferably not more than $1 per ml shipped). And the natural flavoring offered by VV has me intrigued. Any more thoughts on them or any others you've tried who do natural flavoring?

 

[Khilbron]

I'm looking at Velvet Vapors. I don't mind paying a little more if its true quality (just preferably not more than $1 per ml shipped). And the natural flavoring offered by VV has me intrigued. Any more thoughts on them or any others you've tried who do natural flavoring?

As long as it isnt harmful I say give it a shot, just don't get Raspberry "Natural Flavoring", Raspberry Natural Flavoring is made using Castoreum which is harvested from the scent glands of a Beaver, which as unfortunately located in their rear. Personally I don't want to smoke Beaver ...

 

[SupplyDaddy]

Please don't take my comments offensively Purplecat. I was merely going off your initial post, which didn't state anything obvious other than your impressed thought that you didn't get your 5ml of liquid. As for the taste, which you posted later, well.. I can send you a 250ml bottle of cherry tobacco that I Loved for a week.. BLAH !! ( and the chocolate I just hated and was going to throw out is now my mainstay!)

I can suggest Halo..just about any flavor! Yumm!! I think it's pricy at $21.95 for 30ml but it's Good.. btw I DIY my own now so any flavor I don't like is my own fault!!

 

[purplecat001]

Please don't take my comments offensively Purplecat. I was merely going off your initial post, which didn't state anything obvious other than your impressed thought that you didn't get your 5ml of liquid. As for the taste, which you posted later, well.. I can send you a 250ml bottle of cherry tobacco that I Loved for a week.. BLAH !! ( and the chocolate I just hated and was going to throw out is now my mainstay!)

I can suggest Halo..just about any flavor! Yumm!! I think it's pricy at $21.95 for 30ml but it's Good.. btw I DIY my own now so any flavor I don't like is my own fault!!

Its cool. I totally understand what you are saying I'll try them again in a week after they have steeped a bit. It's just that the artificial taste makes me weary of what I am vaping. WOW! 250ml is A LOT of juice!

I'm sick of smoking cigarettes and really want this to work out. (crossing my fingers)

I will definitely check out Halo too. Thank you for the tips!

 

[purplecat001]

As long as it isnt harmful I say give it a shot, just don't get Raspberry "Natural Flavoring", Raspberry Natural Flavoring is made using Castoreum which is harvested from the scent glands of a Beaver, which as unfortunately located in their rear. Personally I don't want to smoke Beaver ...

Eww. Just plain eww.

 

[KraKsX]

Try
eLiquid Access

And

15ml Weekender

Both very good, and very inexpensive

(btw, a B&M store by me, eCig are not there main business, sells for $2ml, yes a 5ml bottle is $10! I'm thinking of going back to them and showing them what $10 shipped buys me (30ml bottle))

 

[readmermaid]

You might check out TastyVapor.us. They've been around for a long time & I've been ordering from them a long time, lol. 30 ml for $15.50 is reasonable, in my opinion. But your real savings come with their 'Doublers'. Once you find flavors you like, you can order their Doubler, which is 0 nicotine flavored, then mix to your mg. Since I vape at a very low mg - 9.6 - it cuts my cost by more than 1/2, to about $7 per 30 ml. Plus, your liquid is fully customizable & made to order.

Of course, everyone's opinion, taste, & mileage varies....

 

[Khilbron]

I absolutely love the flavors from USA Made Vapor Renu : Electronic Cigarettes Refill Cartridges : Candy Flavorings : E Cig Liquid Nicotine : Cartomizer Refills : Menthol E-Liquid : Flavoring Oils : E Cigarette Refills, they are located on the east coast, and I have probably ordered 15+ 30ml bottles from them of varying flavors, their shipping is extremely reliable, and a 30ml bottle will only set you back $7.50, just make sure you select Nu-Juice Refill to customize your own juice.

 

[HoinkDouglas]

take advantage of real b&m shops in SoCal. We are fortunate enough to live in the most densely populated vape area in the world.

suggestions with juice is so subjective its best not to continue to get burned by vendors you dont like even if others swear by em, being able to go sit at a "bar" and sample a 40-100 flavors to find something you like is much more convenient and you can always go find that flavor online for a little less the next time.

The Vapor Loft in Orange, Ca - takes me about 45 mins from Santa Monica and worth the drive. Paul and his wife are great, the place is decked out in couches and ipads, they carry a lot of popular juice like fuzion and aiv. Very approachable.

Vape Revolution in Cerritos, Ca - roughly the same distance from Santa Monica. This place is kinda indescribable, at pretty much all times the shop is a vape meet. tons of people and amazing decor. I'd probably say its the biggest B&M in the country in terms of usable space. They carry everything period. I wouldn't call the place all that approachable as they do have a ton of people in there at all times so its best to make sure you write your name on the sign up sheet and try to be a ninja with eye contact when you see a free employee.

 

[Khilbron]

take advantage of real b&m shops in SoCal. We are fortunate enough to live in the most densely populated vape area in the world.

suggestions with juice is so subjective its best not to continue to get burned by vendors you dont like even if others swear by em, being able to go sit at a "bar" and sample a 40-100 flavors to find something you like is much more convenient and you can always go find that flavor online for a little less the next time.

The Vapor Loft in Orange, Ca - takes me about 45 mins from Santa Monica and worth the drive. Paul and his wife are great, the place is decked out in couches and ipads, they carry a lot of popular juice like fuzion and aiv. Very approachable.

Vape Revolution in Cerritos, Ca - roughly the same distance from Santa Monica. This place is kinda indescribable, at pretty much all times the shop is a vape meet. tons of people and amazing decor. I'd probably say its the biggest B&M in the country in terms of usable space. They carry everything period. I wouldn't call the place all that approachable as they do have a ton of people in there at all times so its best to make sure you write your name on the sign up sheet and try to be a ninja with eye contact when you see a free employee.

Unfortunately, there aren't any here in the Nashville, TN area, so I have to resort to online retailers.

 

[DavidOck]

Hey Khilbron, you might look here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ying-hello-looking-nashville-e-cig-store.html

Or you might just have to resort to surfing around a few on-line shops and trying a variety of flavors (and shops!), which, as mentioned, isn't ideal...

Good luck - it can be done.

And as I think has also been mentioned in this thread - what you like today may not be what you like next week, anyway!