anyone try it yet? i just found out after i bought a lot of normal 510 atmy... is there a huge differece?where can i get the cheapest LR? just want to get one and try it out..
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anyone try it yet? i just found out after i bought a lot of normal 510 atmy... is there a huge differece?where can i get the cheapest LR? just want to get one and try it out..
I have 3 that I purchased from Totally Wicked that I've been using heavily for about a month now and no sign of quitting on me yet!
I have had mine from NHaler for a month and a half now and only burned out one and it was my fault, my mod went off in my pocket, the trick is keeping these LR's wet, they burn much hotter using 2 amps instead of 1 amp like A regular 510 does, I keep mine pretty soaking wet and also use a dripping tip they give a way fuller taste on the juice as well on every vape, keep em wet they last, dry = dead Atty for sure.!!! There are also 2 different LR'S currently being sold 1.5 ohm & 1.7 ohm the 1.5 runs a bit hotter and the 1.7ohm has a bit better of taste on the juice in my opinion and gives pleanty of vapor. The difference in vapor is night and day between regular 510 & LR510
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I would say using many of them that the vapor is better on the LR, but the taste to me is better on a reg 510..
The thing I have found, at least on the ones I have used in this last month, that is after a few days I no longer get the vape I did when they are new.
The reg joye 510s seem to be much more consistent in the taste and vapor dept.. Just my 2 cents,,
... you will need to try them for an accurate comparison. They have their place but are not the second coming of Christ neither. They do not perform the same with all liquids, neither do the other attys for that sake.
They were designed to produce a 5V vape on a 3.7 V device, and they do that.
I have recently experienced 6V and XHV and must say that I am not fussy with XHV but do like HV during the evenings. Some folks like HV all the time, not me.
I had bought the LR for those "special" cravings, and it did what it was supposed to do, whipped the demon. It is all about your expectations, not the fanfare.
Do you really want to be confused further, not all 3.7V batteries are created equal.
There is a lot of variables involved with regards to vaping satisfaction, from atomisers, to devices, to liquids PG or VG, to PG/VG ratios and to batteries. I have come to find out, one size does not fit all.
What works for some, may not necessarily work for you. If you are able to decipher the wheat from the chaff, with all the hype that surrounds vaping, then and only then will you be able to make an educated decision/guess on what to do.
I am fortunate I am retired and provided with the luxury of unlimited research available, and even I find it difficult at times.
They were designed to produce a 5V vape on a 3.7 V device, and they do that.
I have recently experienced 6V and XHV and must say that I am not fussy with XHV but do like HV during the evenings. Some folks like HV all the time, not me.
I had bought the LR for those "special" cravings, and it did what it was supposed to do, whipped the demon. It is all about your expectations, not the fanfare.
Do you really want to be confused further, not all 3.7V batteries are created equal.
There is a lot of variables involved with regards to vaping satisfaction, from atomisers, to devices, to liquids PG or VG, to PG/VG ratios and to batteries. I have come to find out, one size does not fit all.
What works for some, may not necessarily work for you. If you are able to decipher the wheat from the chaff, with all the hype that surrounds vaping, then and only then will you be able to make an educated decision/guess on what to do.
I am fortunate I am retired and provided with the luxury of unlimited research available, and even I find it difficult at times.
where can i get the cheapest LR? just want to get one and try it out..
I picked some up from both TW and Clouds of Vapor and yes there is a difference but in my opinion not enough to justify the extra cost.
I do like their performance better on my Ego's than on my GGTS with an 18650 battery.
I will probably buy more in the future but only when the prices fall in line with the regular versions.
Don't use the LR atties on the normal batteries because they can't support the discharge rate. I accidentally put an LR on a normal 510 battery once and it drained it in just a minute. I think the battery needs to be at least 440 mAh iirc.
As mentioned by different poster, at the end of the day it all depends on expectation/value AND watts.
No doubts that the LR attys give a “stronger” hit, sometimes compromising the flavor and/or the life of the atty.
In my experience, using a true 3.7V box will kill the atty quicker than a regular one but using it in a Stick V3 is a “perfect” sweet spot for me; the reason is simple, the 10400 battery is not a real 3.7V; it may start like that but degrade fast giving you an average of 3.1V to 3.4V.
Now, not all attys are the same. Resistance vary (which will give you different watts). I think the most common LR attys are 1.5; Levy at Xtremevaping will have them but at 1.7 which will give longer life and help with the flavor.
Take in consideration that this is true in regular attys. While the Joye are about 2.2, many people don’t like the SLB rated at about 2.5 but that could make a big difference when using a 5V mod.
Remember Watts = (Volts^2)/Ohms
Many claim 10 watts is the “best experience”. You have to try it to see if that’s what you like. I personally prefer somewhere about 8.
So, using a LR atty, say 1.5 in a true 3.7V box, you have W=(3.7^2)/1.5=9.12
If you use a 1.7 atty then W=(3.7^2)/1.7=8.05
No doubts that the LR attys give a “stronger” hit, sometimes compromising the flavor and/or the life of the atty.
In my experience, using a true 3.7V box will kill the atty quicker than a regular one but using it in a Stick V3 is a “perfect” sweet spot for me; the reason is simple, the 10400 battery is not a real 3.7V; it may start like that but degrade fast giving you an average of 3.1V to 3.4V.
Now, not all attys are the same. Resistance vary (which will give you different watts). I think the most common LR attys are 1.5; Levy at Xtremevaping will have them but at 1.7 which will give longer life and help with the flavor.
Take in consideration that this is true in regular attys. While the Joye are about 2.2, many people don’t like the SLB rated at about 2.5 but that could make a big difference when using a 5V mod.
Remember Watts = (Volts^2)/Ohms
Many claim 10 watts is the “best experience”. You have to try it to see if that’s what you like. I personally prefer somewhere about 8.
So, using a LR atty, say 1.5 in a true 3.7V box, you have W=(3.7^2)/1.5=9.12
If you use a 1.7 atty then W=(3.7^2)/1.7=8.05
Interesting observations but the perspective is skewed with the use of inaccurate numbers. The only accuracy presented in your post belongs to a battery 10440. Sorry!
In the numbers I showed, where is the inaccuracy?
Do you agree the following?
W = E x I
I = E/R then W = E x (E/R) = (E^2)/R
W = power (watts); E = voltage (volts); I = current (amperes); R = resistance (Ohms)
Where is the problem?
What does the 10440 battery takes place in my numerical examples?
It is true that batteries can (and in fact do) change the performance. The 10440 nominal voltage is 3.7 as well as the 14500. The later performs better and holds the voltage constant and longer but that has nothing to do with the formulas. The same is true with a new and veru used batteries being the same model. No?
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only partially true. Yes the 3.7V box mod will be killing it quicker, but you will find that all JoyE products run a 3.1V regardless of device. So this observation is only partially true and has really nothing to do with the 10440 perse. Although the drop curve on the 10440 is indeed quite drastic.
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Now the eGo utilizes pulse modualtion at 3.1V, that link is a long read and I was tired by the time I was done. This modualtiojn is an inherebnt part of the PCB onboard the eGo batt. Whether it is in all batts, that I am unsure of. I don't believe it is because no other device vapes like the eGo. That is a pretty bold statement yes, but true nonetheless. I and many can't really explain it. Is it pulse modualtion or battery mAh. We do know that the eGo batt just dies. It doesn't trail off perse like many other batts.
... and that is also a problem. The LR atty that originally came out was fabricated to a resistance of 1.5 Ohms. Now we are seing them at all kinds of variances that IMHO are confusing folks because as you stated, there will be a difference in vaping. e.g. some are being sold at 1.5 Ohms +/- 0.3 Ohms. Man that is a large deflection considering that resistance wire (forget the name now) is a constant resistance per inch.
My experience with stock 510 JoyE is that they meter at 2.5 Ohms whilst the JoyE atty that comes with the EGo (wide band) meters at 2.2 Ohms, and yes there will and is a markeable difference.
SLBs OTOH I have had them at anywhere from 3-3.5 the norm rotating around 3.2-3.3 Ohms, although they suck at 3.7V they do perform like a stock 510 vaping on a 5V (box mod)
To really throw a monkey wrench into things, before the LR atty hit the scene a little while back, there was always an LR atty. It was made by Saelbo and metered at 2.5 Ohms what we deem as stock these days. That being said they will be coming out with a 2 Ohm atty the LLR. Are we confused yet, I am.
FWIW the SLBs when utilized at the proper voltage outlast the JoyE IMHO. Well it has been my experience anyway. The key, the proper voltage and yes using Ohms law to extract the max out of any set up.
On the brighter side, although this is getting more confusing as days go by. These innovations only increases our vaping pleasures
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Folks have been using them with stock batts as well. If you have a 1.5 Ohm atty even on the mega batt, your batt life between recharges as been reduced almost by half. So you might get 1 hr 1.5 hr at most. Because these batts were not intended to be used under these large current draws, it will shorten the life of the battery accordingly. They are not High Drain batteries. A metaphor to explain this. If you constantly red line your engine, sooner or later it will blow, hence a pre-mature engine failure. IOW your battery will not last as long. You can make a 3.7V box mod cheaper than you can buy another battery.
I tried mine on the eGo (only device I had at the time with 440 mAh or better), to see what it was like. Since I have only been using them on LI Ion batts or box mods. Didn't want to ruin a proprietary battery on an LR atty.
I tried mine on the eGo (only device I had at the time with 440 mAh or better), to see what it was like. Since I have only been using them on LI Ion batts or box mods. Didn't want to ruin a proprietary battery on an LR atty.
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Switched;
So I was not that wrong… yes, too many variables and in real life we’re dealing with “pleasure” which can’t be measured or tagged in numbers.
I got a couple LR’s fronm nhaler and TW and I like them, but in my 3.7V box (with 14500 battery) they die soon, heat like crazy and get rid of the juice too quickly while in the V3 (as stated is a real 3.1V) they perform pretty good.
I got a couple SLB for price only, and in the 3.7V box, they’re ok but in my 5V GLV those are the very best for my taste.
I guess the real best advise is to try all and stick to what is bet for you. I never liked the regular 801 in the V3, but when using AC from Tasty Vapor, it is great… we need to be prepared to try everything and have different devices to find the most pleasurable vape considering all the real variables we face.
Jddehoff, I haven’t try it, but certainly my V3 and Tornado are affected when using LR attys; not a huge difference but I can notice shorter vape cessions.
So I was not that wrong… yes, too many variables and in real life we’re dealing with “pleasure” which can’t be measured or tagged in numbers.
I got a couple LR’s fronm nhaler and TW and I like them, but in my 3.7V box (with 14500 battery) they die soon, heat like crazy and get rid of the juice too quickly while in the V3 (as stated is a real 3.1V) they perform pretty good.
I got a couple SLB for price only, and in the 3.7V box, they’re ok but in my 5V GLV those are the very best for my taste.
I guess the real best advise is to try all and stick to what is bet for you. I never liked the regular 801 in the V3, but when using AC from Tasty Vapor, it is great… we need to be prepared to try everything and have different devices to find the most pleasurable vape considering all the real variables we face.
Jddehoff, I haven’t try it, but certainly my V3 and Tornado are affected when using LR attys; not a huge difference but I can notice shorter vape cessions.
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