Lung pain

[Bawn]

Started smoking my joye 510-t last night while I was drinking. Today I feel pretty bad pain in my chest. Feels like my lungs are burning and have a pressure on them. Not sure if it's the booze or the nicotine. Feels like I smoked 2 packs of analogs last night.

 

[RedZone]

You would need to provide more info than that.
Did you just begin vaping last night for the first time? What juice are you using? NIC strength?
Were you smoking analogs right up until you started vaping? Etc, etc etc?

 

[leftfeild]

If in doubt, consult a doctor.

Possible reactions to vaping can be as you described, like a heavy feeling in your lungs. It can be too much pg (which can be an irritant) or too much vg (whih is heavier than pg and can irritate the lungs and make them feel heavy as a result). One of the bigger aspects I suppose would be the nicotine level itself as nicotine is definately an irritant.

If you have any difficulties breathing or swelling it could be an allergic reaction.

All "it could be-s" aside, it's likely you're not used to vaping yet. It's like getting into a sauna straight from the cold to the overly humid hot steam room that hits your throat. When you smoked some of the chemicals were to numb your throat and make the inhale easier. You no longer have that with ecigs and can really feel it.

Dehydration can be an issue as pg is a humectant (draws water to itself) so you need to keep your h2o levels up.

Try out lowering your nic level and/or altering your pg and vg levels if you're happy to keep going with vaping. And if there's any doubt, I'd see a doctor about it, especially if it gets worse.

 

[Bawn]

The bottle doesn't tell me what vg and pg levels are and it's 24mg of nicotine. I have not smoked a analog since last Saturday and yea just started vaping last night

 

[Boodle]

+1 for Leftfield. My guesses are about the same:

You were vaping high VG. It creates a heavy 'I smoked too much' feeling for me also when I vape a lot of it
Your lungs don't like PG or VG or it could be the flavor you were vaping (what was the flavor and PG/VG ratio?). How long have you been vaping?
You're dehydrated. The alcohol plus the vaping used up your water onboard - you need to drink water like a camel crossing the desert.

Are you coughing up any clear stuff? That could be VG clearing your lungs.

The 'burning' lungs you describe is worrysome. You're getting guesses from non-medical trained vapers. Prolly need to see your doc if it doesn't subside quickly.

 

[RedZone]

Wow, you went almost a week between quitting analogs and starting vaping! Very rare!
How much did you smoke analogs? What brand? How long?

When you quit smoking analogs, the tar and crud that has been building up on the cilia lining of your lungs immediately starts to break up and expel. The cilia are normally used by the body to help move crap out of your lungs to keep from getting congested. BUT, tar from cigarettes and other chemicals basically clog up the cilia, and that's why smokers are constantly fighting congestion issues.

So, I imagine over the last week you coughed up a bunch of nasty stuff in the first couple of days.

So, now the lining of your lungs is already returning to pre-smoking condition (Though it takes several months to return to normal)... Then you start vaping, and your lungs get hit with vapor.

Are you getting good flavor with your Ego-T? No burnt taste? Because if your Ego-T wasn't wicking well, and you continually dry hit (Semi burnt taste), I could imagine how that could irritate the lungs.

 

[Bawn]

Burning was the wrong word to use. My lungs feel more heavy and it feels like I have heartburn it's that kind of feeling I don't smoke much during the week I smoked usually on the weekends socially. I do my very best to not smoke during the week I do not buy cigarettes for that purpose during the week. As soon as alcohol all comes into play I need to smoke

 

[RedZone]

24MG may be a bit heavy on the NIC for you, as you were a weekend smoker.

Boodle's comment on the hydration though, is spot on! The combo of vaping and alcohol could dry you like a prune!
I would hit the water hard today, hydrate until your stomach says "No Mas"...

There are so many possibilities, and again as Boodle's mentioned, none of us have medical degrees. Though many of us have gone through the process of moving from analogs -> vaping. Everyone's experience is different.

Hope you recover quickly!

 

[Bawn]

Ya I think I just over did it last night with the booze. I was pretty buzzed. I will wait until tomorrow and see how I feel. I think I am going to order something with a tad less nicotine. Maybe 12, but I need that throat hit feeling. That's my big thig. Is vg or pg bad for the body? Does it have any adverse effects? Dangerous ones? I read that it doesn't

 

[swedishfish]

Burning was the wrong word to use. My lungs feel more heavy and it feels like I have heartburn it's that kind of feeling I don't smoke much during the week I smoked usually on the weekends socially. I do my very best to not smoke during the week I do not buy cigarettes for that purpose during the week. As soon as alcohol all comes into play I need to smoke

I get that heavy feeling from too much VG. Others from PG.

I think it's a combination of vaping/smoking. Also, you don't vape the same way you smoke. It's not necessary to pull the vape directly into your lungs because it's not absorbed through your lungs the way cigarettes are.

 

[swedishfish]

Ya I think I just get did it last night with the booze. I was pretty buzzed. I will wait until tomorrow and see how I feel. I think I am going to order something with a tad less nicotine. Maybe 12, but I need that throat hit feeling. That's my big thig.

I don't really think it's the nicotine strength. Especially if your still smoking cigarettes. If you cut the nicotine even more, they won't prevent cravings.
Vaping 12 would have been a joke for me.

What kind of juice. Some juice is really harsh.

 

[RandaPandaBear]

24mg is pretty high. I was a moderate smoker and I can only handle 18mg during the day and less in the evening. A significant amount of alcohol dehydrates anyway as it is a diuretic. Drink water, and if things don't clear up see a doc.

 

[swedishfish]

It's relative. Maybe high for you isn't high for someone else. I vape 24 with no issues.

 

[RandaPandaBear]

But what kind of smoker were you? I mean you have a point but I'm asking.

 

[Bawn]

True but I need to have throat hit

 

[swedishfish]

If there is one thing I've learned being on this board and reading thousands of posts is that there is no real coorelation between nicotine strength and a past smoking habits. My mother needed 36 for the first two weeks to get off cigarettes and now vapes 6 mg.

Everyone's level of addiction is different. The MAOI's in cigarettes effect some people a great deal and others hardly at all. Light cigarettes deliver just as much nicotine to the brain as full strength cigarettes do.

Obviously something is going on if this person is still smoking too. Maybe they don't want to quit cigs completely which is fine. Then vape low nicotine because they are getting more nicotine from cigarettes than they are from vaping.

 

[leftfeild]

If there is one thing I've learned being on this board and reading thousands of posts is that there is no real coorelation between nicotine strength and a past smoking habits. My mother needed 36 for the first two weeks to get off cigarettes and now vapes 6 mg.

Everyone's level of addiction is different. The MAOI's in cigarettes effect some people a great deal and others hardly at all. Light cigarettes deliver just as much nicotine to the brain as full strength cigarettes do.

Obviously something is going on if this person is still smoking too. Maybe they don't want to quit cigs completely which is fine. Then vape low nicotine because they are getting more nicotine from cigarettes than they are from vaping.

True. I was a 20+ roll your own smoker, sometimes unfiltered and I'm now happily vaping 4 - 6mg. I've seen some people using 42mg and I know I would be floored pretty much instantly as the 18mg I started on had me going to the doctors for pretty much every classic symptom of too much nicotine. Yet, some who vape at 42mg say they could probably go higher, and just once I've seen a thread where someone claimed to use 52mg.

How much nic your body needs and can handle seems to differ greatly from person to person.

 

[johnprentoulis]

thats very worrying

 

[RedZone]

The point swedishfish is making is find what level works for you!
It's really pretty simple.
I started out with 36MG, and found that with my vaping habits 24MG works.
Who knows I may reduce the level in the future, but for now, I'm not going to try and fix what isn't broke!
I can still hit periods of Over-Vaping. I blame the fact of having a juice I like too much!
BUT, I'll still take the brief Over-NIC'd experiences over, 30 years of smoking Marb Reds!

 

[dnorf]

I switched over to vaping about 6 weeks ago, and still have an occasional analog (can't afford new juice, so bumming an analog off someone works :x), and i've been sneezing up what looks like blood and I do get some burning in my lungs. That hasn't happened in a few weeks though...I figured it's just my lungs trying to clear out.

As for you, is there any possibility that there's a PG allergy here? What kind of juice is it??