Marlboro Man to market e-cig product

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Altria Group Inc., owner of the nation's biggest cigarette maker, Philip Morris USA, announced in late April that its NuMark subsidiary plans to introduce an electronic cigarette during the second half of the year, making it the last of the major domestic tobacco companies to enter the growing category.
Reynolds American Inc., owner of the second-biggest U.S. cigarette maker, has begun limited distribution of its first electronic cigarette under the Vuse brand and Lorillard Inc., the nation's third-biggest tobacco company, acquired e-cigarette maker Blu Ecigs in April 2012

I know this is old news to most but I was thinking / hoping that with Big Tobacco companies jumping on the e-cig band wagon, With their Big Tobacco Money, this might help our cause. They have the money and still some power left to fight or persuade the law makers.

But then again will it hurt vaping?
I mean here in Pennsylvania they came out with them roll your own cigarette machines, first off the state wouldn't let tobacco stores own one, you had to rent it from the state for $20,000. Don't think it lasted a year, State was losing to much tax money so they seized them all back. Not sure if they gave the stores their money back.

But my point if these Big company's see the DIY is costing them money they might try to stop them. One way is to pass a law you have to have either a pharmacies license, or a state license to sale nicotine.
Again in Pa only the state can sale alcohol. A private own store can sale Beer, but Wine, whiskey, champagne are all sold by State Owned and Run stores. Basically if it has a certain percentage of alcohol in it they sale it.
So I wouldn't be surprised if my State would pass a law that only they can sale nicotine or even PG.

So I just wanted to know what others thoughts and opinions on this was?
 
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It doesn't look good for BT to be marketing e-cigs, and I agree, having them associated with vaping isn't good either, but think down the road a ways. Might it be that some day they will produce *only* e-cigs? Might their business model eventually focus on taking the market share of the vaping business away from China? Perhaps someday they will be making mechs, RBA's, RDA's, and regulated mods. After all they are in business to make money, that being the whole point of business, and if the market demands a change smart businessmen go with the change.
 

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Marlboro sends me gifts all the time, plus Birthday and X-Mas gifts every year, mostly coupons, but I have gotten lighters, cases, and pocket ashtrays.
Be kinda cool to have a Marlboro Mod. I picture a box mod :) The Marlboro Vape Box, Old fashion stainless with fancy engraving :vapor:

I am new so maybe this is noob thinking, but I always assumed since the Cigarette companies owned a lot of the Tobacco plantations that they would make money of the sale of any nicotine?
 
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Marlboro sends me gifts all the time, plus Birthday and X-Mas gifts every year, mostly coupons, but I have gotten lighters, cases, and pocket ashtrays.
Be kinda cool to have a Marlboro Mod. I picture a box mod :) The Marlboro Vape Box, Old fashion stainless with fancy engraving :vapor:

I am new so maybe this is noob thinking, but I always assumed since the Cigarette companies owned a lot of the Tobacco plantations that they would make money of the sale of any nicotine?

As someone who chased the 'perfect' tobacco vape for quite a while and seeing the various USA mixes come up a lot (Marlborough imitations) I suppose they might actually be able to produce a decently realistic tobacco vape, better placed to do it than anyone I suppose.

When I smoked cigs I smoked Marlborough. I've vaped a lot of stuff but always return to the tobacco type flavours, not because I miss cigs but mainly because all the fruity dessert and wacky flavours aren't something I want to vape.
 

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There's no way that big tobacco getting any piece of the vaping pie will help the cause. Now it will bring it more to the forefront of being "mainstream" but IMO that's not what vaping is all about. Vaping to me is a lifestyle change and choice that gives me a hobby and a much healthier lifestyle without having to be "mainstream". The only thing that big tobacco will bring to the table is the label of cigarette. And eventually regulations, then buyouts, then crushing the smaller companies . It's bad news all around.
 

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As someone who chased the 'perfect' tobacco vape for quite a while and seeing the various USA mixes come up a lot (Marlborough imitations) I suppose they might actually be able to produce a decently realistic tobacco vape, better placed to do it than anyone I suppose.

When I smoked cigs I smoked Marlborough. I've vaped a lot of stuff but always return to the tobacco type flavours, not because I miss cigs but mainly because all the fruity dessert and wacky flavours aren't something I want to vape.

This is why I quit analogs. A couple of years back they made these Dreams analogs you could get them in cherry, vanilla, chocolate and clove. Once I vaped analogs tasted like crap. I loved the Dreams they where spendy but I would treat myself once in a while. Now they changed them to cigars because it was to appealing to minors.
 

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Back when I was smoking I tried to find any way to get coupons to lower the price. Since I have been vaping I get coupons all the time and haven't asked for them.

I know the e-cig shops just throw the coupons to you. I have this one place that will take 15% of anything you buy in that store. And when you leave they throw more coupons in the bag! LOL (I am not going to say no!)
 

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this is not good news ... BT will convince the FDA they are the only ones capable to distribute regulated eliquid ... they will then jack the price to be on par with smoking and force the amazing juice makers we have now into an illegal bootleg situation ... purchasing nic base for DIY will be next to impossible to obtain.

Then to make a bad situation worse ... they will start adding some of the 4,000 chemicals that are already in cigarettes into their ejuice.

Like any smart business ... they will adjust their business strategy to stay ahead of the game ... there is no way they will let people quit smoking at the rate we are seeing with vaping.

Vaping is the most successful smoking cessation society has ever seen ... and BT already knows this.
 

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Google 'Bills sponsored by RJ Reynolds' and just skim through the results. I don't think their intent is to make healthier choices with the product, not only RJ Reynolds but all of the big tobacco companies. They want the money and they want it all and they want to get it by crushing the competition. I won't buy their e-cigs, I will never trust what they say about anything but especially what they put in them...because BT would never lie to us. Would they?
 

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this is not good news ... BT will convince the FDA they are the only ones capable to distribute regulated eliquid ... they will then jack the price to be on par with smoking and force the amazing juice makers we have now into an illegal bootleg situation ... purchasing nic base for DIY will be next to impossible to obtain.

Then to make a bad situation worse ... they will start adding some of the 4,000 chemicals that are already in cigarettes into their ejuice.

Like any smart business ... they will adjust their business strategy to stay ahead of the game ... there is no way they will let people quit smoking at the rate we are seeing with vaping.

Vaping is the most successful smoking cessation society has ever seen ... and BT already knows this.

Nvm, this kinda answered my first post.
 

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I agree that BT is bad news for vaping but Marlboro's first entry doesn't look like much more than a stepping stone.

Product Facts:

MarkTen™ e-cigarettes come in two varieties, classic and menthol.
Each MarkTen™ e-cigarette cartridge contains approximately 1.5% nicotine by weight. The amount of nicotine an adult consumer receives depends on how the consumer uses it. The amount of nicotine in MarkTen™ cartridges is within the range found in similar types of e-cigarettes on the market today.
MarkTen™ is currently distributed in Indiana and beginning in December 2013 will be distributed in Arizona.
MarkTen™ e-cigarettes are manufactured in China by an established manufacturer. The e-liquid is produced in the U.S. by an affiliate of Nu Mark.

from: Nu Mark LLC
 
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