Mechanical Mods and What to Vape With

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SnuffBegins

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Hello all,

My first proper post here so apologies if it's not in the right format or doesn't quite make sense.

I've been vaping for a while but not really advanced in terms of the hardware I'm using. Started off with an eGo adjustable voltage device and now I am using an MVP V2, which I like.

I have just ordered a Hammer Clone and I wanted to get a new Clearomizer/Atomiser to go with it, but I'm clueless on what to get.

So far I have only used some of the cheapo ones and have a couple of Kanger Aerotanks and Protanks but I wanted something a bit different and maybe the next step up in terms of customisation. My problem is I don't know what's compatible with the Hammer. All I know is it's a 510 thread.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance,
SB
 

SnuffBegins

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Snuff, check out the nautilus aspire mini.. this thing vapes like a champ

Nice one, will it work well with the Hammer?

I am enjoying the mini, but for a mech check into a kayfun cline possibly too if you want to get into rebuilding.

Ah ok I saw that one whilst browsing this evening. Do they normally come with everything you need or would I have to pick up extra consumables?
 

dubliquid

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Can't see any reason why it wouldn't work on the hammer. 510 connection should fit a 510 thread. Unless of course the equipment is manufactured cheaply. I suggest you pop into a vape shop before you purchase or buy both online from a reputable ecig retailer. Message then first and double check, that way you avoid any headaches. I can't see any reason why the mini wouldn't fit the Hammer though.
 
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SnuffBegins

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cant see any reason why it wouldn't work on the hammer. 510 connection should fit a 510 thread. maybe try pop into a vape shop before you purchase or buy both online from a reputable retailer and message then first to double check that way you avoid any headaches. i cant see any reason why the mini wouldn't fit the Hammer.

Brilliant, having no experience with mechanicals I just wanted to check. Many thanks.
 

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Hey Snuff, I also recommend the kayfun. Buy some 28ga kanthal and some cotton and you can build/rebuild to the perfect vape, and it's fun to try new builds. It's super easy once you get the hang of it, just read up and watch some vids. Oh, an ohm meter is a must! I just picked up my second kayfun today so I can have 2 flavors going at one time. The nautilus is definitely a superb machine as well, just a little less flexibility in the long run if you want to change the way it vapes. Good luck and vape safe!
 
If you're thinking rebuildable I would also recommend looking into a squape. I started with a kayfun and don't get me wrong they are quality all the way around, I have two I still use, but I wish sometimes I had started off with something a little easier and for me that's the squape. It's got a bigger deck and bigger screws and it's a little more forgiving than the kayfun for newbies. Also it's good to make sure that whatever device you're using with your new rebuildable that it has some kind of built in short protection until you're comfortable with your builds.
 
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Ok.. I came in late on this post... but here's a link you should read: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-discussion-safety-battery-info-warnings.html

Not saying you're going to "sub-ohm", but chances are, you will... even if it's not "extreme". There are some warnings etc that you need to be aware of.

That being said, here's some additional things you'll need to get with just one recommendation on where to get each.

Kayfun or Kayfun Lite... these are all over the net.
28 gauge kanthal for starters. Later, you can experiment with higher/lower gauge, but this is a good starting baseline.
An Ohm meter. Necessary for checking for shorts.
Organic Cotton Balls. Sold at your local drug store.
a good pair of tweezers to make a good coil.
small phillips head screwdriver.
sharp pair of scissors.
Patience.

Do plenty of research on coil building and know what you're getting into first. As long as the videos are, they do a lot of talking. When you get the hang of it, it goes much faster than what you see here. I just got through recoiling three atomizers in 30 minutes. Once you build a coil, it's good for a month or so. A bit of tinkering, and you'll get a very good vape experience.. more than with a protank or nautilus. However, it does have a learning curve.
 

SnuffBegins

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Ok.. I came in late on this post... but here's a link you should read: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-discussion-safety-battery-info-warnings.html

Not saying you're going to "sub-ohm", but chances are, you will... even if it's not "extreme". There are some warnings etc that you need to be aware of.

That being said, here's some additional things you'll need to get with just one recommendation on where to get each.

Kayfun or Kayfun Lite... these are all over the net.
28 gauge kanthal for starters. Later, you can experiment with higher/lower gauge, but this is a good starting baseline.
An Ohm meter. Necessary for checking for shorts.
Organic Cotton Balls. Sold at your local drug store.
a good pair of tweezers to make a good coil.
small phillips head screwdriver.
sharp pair of scissors.
Patience.

Do plenty of research on coil building and know what you're getting into first. As long as the videos are, they do a lot of talking. When you get the hang of it, it goes much faster than what you see here. I just got through recoiling three atomizers in 30 minutes. Once you build a coil, it's good for a month or so. A bit of tinkering, and you'll get a very good vape experience.. more than with a protank or nautilus. However, it does have a learning curve.

Brilliant, thanks for he indepth response. I've got some learnin' to do :)
 

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One thing to keep in mind when using a tank on a mech mod...there is no voltage regulation, meaning as you vape and the battery drains, your vape quality will decrease. Mechs shine with rba's and rda's, bit you may find you like the tanks best on your MVP. Take em both with you :p
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Brilliant, thanks for he indepth response. I've got some learnin' to do :)

fairly easy once you get the general idea. Pretty much in a nutshell, batteries have a maximum input/output amperage. Too much output (or too fast of a charging) and you will overload and cause the battery to get hot. do not exceed the maximum limits of the battery or it could "vent". Most of the videos I've seen where they vent a "safe chemistry" battery show a minimal and small "fizz" of noxious fumes comming out of the battery when pushed past their limit. However, I have seen some videos/pictures of the EGO type batteries actually building up pressure and shooting like a bottle rocket off their charger. All these are due to overstressing the battery. So, it's just a good idea to stay within the limits of the battery. If you don't know what the amperage of the battery is, then I'd get one that you do know of... and get one that has a high amp discharge rating.

Once you know the amp limit, the next thing is just to build the coil(s) that you like. I like to use a .8 to 1 ohm coil in a Kayfun using 28 gauge. I use that on my mechanical mods. The Kayfun offers a nice build and taste quality and is easy to setup. Most people gauge their coils by how many "wraps" they use, but I tend to stick with just an ohm rating. I have gavitated to using a rather small coil. I wrap mine around a tiny screwdriver for the most part. When I wrap dual coils, I usually end up wrapping my coils around round toothpicks since I can keep the coil wound while I screw them into the posts. Once wrapped, and screwed into the posts, I take it out of whatever I wound it around and test the ohms with the meter. When the ohms are satisfactory, I put the base of the kayfun on the mod and fire it. I have ceramic tweezers, so I tighten my coils while they're red hot. but if you don't have ceramic tweezers, you get them hot, then squeeze them while they are cooling down being careful not to fire your mod while your tweezers are on the coil. Once the coil is compressed, I usually insert what I wound it around just to make sure the coil is still in line.

Now, for the cotton, you'll be amazed at how little cotton is needed. I tried to use silica, but for some reason, silica is actually harder to replace than cotton. I was first a nay sayer of cotton, thinking that it wil burn too often, but if taken care of, it will last quite a bit and is easy to replace.. and cheap. The ammount of cotton varies with the atomizer or how I want it to wick. The best thing to do is trial and error for yoru first time. Take a little off the ball, and shape it into a "tube" that will fit into the coil. Pull it through the coil until you get some "resistance" between the cotton and coil, then snip the edges. Wet the wick with juice then test fire it. Tuck the moist wick down the side of the kayfun platform then assemble the kayfun and fill it halfway, then vape for a bit. The reason I said fill it halfway, is if you did the wick wrong, you'll have to empty the tank before you can re-wick it. The catch 22, is the more the tank is filled, the less vaccum it can hold, so it might leak for a bit. but until you ge the hang of it, it's what you have to do. IF it gurgles a lot, that means you have too thin of a wick, or the wick is too long... snip it a bit. If it gets dry hits, that means you probably have too much cotton or it's not long enough.

One atomizer I recommend for beginners, is the Squape or a Squape clone.. It is by far the easiest mod to rebuld and work on. After I wrap the coil around a toothpick, I insert the toothpick into a slot and tighten the posts. I compress the coil then insert the cotton. The cotton should be as long as that slot.. no longer. If I make a mistake, the coil/wick can be taken out without having to empty the tank.

anyways, just thought I'd be a bit more informative.
 

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One atomizer I recommend for beginners, is the Squape or a Squape clone.. It is by far the easiest mod to rebuld and work on. After I wrap the coil around a toothpick, I insert the toothpick into a slot and tighten the posts. I compress the coil then insert the cotton. The cotton should be as long as that slot.. no longer. If I make a mistake, the coil/wick can be taken out without having to empty the tank.

Having purchased more tanks, clearomizers, etc. then I care to remember, the one purchase which my only regret is not having purchased it sooner, is the Squape R.

Fantastic device, very forgiving, easy to replace coil or wick without the hassle of having to remove whatever juice remains in your tank... and believe me, there is ALWAYS juice remaining in your tank, when you're ready to change the coil or wick!

Also love my Nautilus mini, but for great taste, no gurgling and no leaks whatsoever, nothing beats my Squape!
 
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Having purchased more tanks, clearomizers, etc. then I care to remember, the one purchase which my only regret is not having purchased it soon, is the Squape R.

Fantastic device, very forgiving, easy to replace coil or wick without the hassle of having to remove whatever juice remains in your tank... and believe me, there is ALWAYS juice remaining in your tank, when you're ready to change the coil or wick!

Also love my Nautilus mini, but for great taste, no gurgling and no leaks whatsoever, nothing beats my Squape!

Yes, it is by far my best atomizer to build upon. the ONLY thing I don't like about it, is the airflow comming from the 510 connector and the "porthole" look to it. Those are minor gripes though, and the Squape and fogger V4 have become my main atomizers.
 

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Yes, it is by far my best atomizer to build upon. the ONLY thing I don't like about it, is the airflow comming from the 510 connector and the "porthole" look to it. Those are minor gripes though, and the Squape and fogger V4 have become my main atomizers.

The new Squape Reloaded now has adjustable air flow, with hole openings that go from 0.9, 1.1, 1.4, 1.8, 2.2 and 3.1mm! They've also changed the look of the port holes... some may prefer them, others may not, but I think it's a very nice, excellently built tank.

StattQualm has changed what was a negative (air flow coming from the 510 pin) to a big positive, with air flow control and the ability to open it up as large as 3.1mm!

They've also added glass so users no longer have to worry about certain juices that can crack or ruin plastic.

Overall a great improvement over the original, which was already a very nice tank.

There are clones of the original which come with glass, but lack the AFC.
 
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