Mesh Wicks and Hot spots

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Ahh ok.... I really think that you nailed it on the head before. I am running dual coil set up on the Origen V2....and that atty is really prone to heating up. I am slowly cooking/caramelizing the juice.

It is an extreme build....dual coil 12 wraps each. But I really want to use 26g wire. MyIPV2 and my IPV mini only boosts above 4.0 volts so I need a lot of wraps or it will vape too hot. But it is running perfect in my drilled out Kraken....not so good in the Origen v2. Probably will have to use 28g wire and do another build in the Origen....something that wont make the atty so hot.
 

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I am running my genesis atomizer with mesh wicks again. The vape is tremendous. The only complaint I have is that once I set up a wick and it is working perfectly (meaning all the coils are glowing perfectly evenly) it will last at most a day before I have to dry burn and glow the coils again and pulse out the hot spots that have developed. I use the Petar K method where I make the coil first and insert the wick afterwards. I am using a jig to wrap perfect coils using 26g wire. All the wraps are touching. I am doing flexible hollow wicks that are lightly torched. Once I insert the wick in less than 30 seconds I pulse out the coils and everything is perfect....the coils are glowing from middle out. The only problem is after about a day of use I can hear the juice popping really loud. Every time I check I see that either there is a hot spot or only one coil is glowing. What could I do to make the build more stable? Having to pulse out hot spots everyday is a PITA.
right here dude doesnt get any easier, exactly how i do it, unless i bump it, or run the tank dry or try to take a huge drag on a fresh battery i have no more hotspots, (ignoring the once in a while bad wrapping job)



i run 28g around .7-.9 ohms on a mech once I am done I usually slip a syringe into the wick to tighten it up against the coil just a touch reducing spaces in the wraps even further.
I don't even pull it just a quick dryburn every couple days and a poke at the coils if they need it for spacing.
 
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Hi Trasher...I remember you from back in the day....both of us were using a Cobra back then. Thanks for the advice and the video link. I am too used to vaping with RDAs and doing micro coils.....I wanted my gennies to replicate the vape I get from my RDAs. I do the same extreme set ups in my gennies that I do in my RDAs. I have three genesis set up now.... 1) single 12 wraps 26g, 2)dual coil 12 wraps each 26g and 3)dual coil 13 wraps each 28g. They vape like a beast on a VW/VV device. I use a coil jig to make the wraps perfect and then do the original Petar K method. It works perfect now that I got the feel of how tight the wick needs to be in the coils. Also using a very flexible wick solved my problems. I can get my coils glowing evenly on my dual coil set ups in no time since I started using a flexible wick. Also my builds have been super stable as well. I don't know why we were using the solid nail like wicks back in the day, but they offer no advantages over a very loosely rolled wick.
 

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a 3/4 wrap 28g .8 ohm coil how much more do you really need from a geni lol
 

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Just a thought....

Is it possible that - when you are done with your setup - you keep vaping with the same battery you did the setup with? If so, chances are your setup will not handle the full load of a fully charged battery. I always swap batteries as the last part of sorting hotspots.

My earlier points about 'angle' was poorly worded. Maybe this will be, too. I think was thinking of 'incline'. If you wrap your coils at a steep incline, they wraps will lose contact with the wick if you flatten them out when sorting hotspots or spacing.

Picture a spring. If squash it, the diameter increases slightly as the coils flatten. Strech it - coil angle increase and diameter decrease.
 

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Yea i noticed this too i try to even the coils befor setting the screws. Then just do minor adjustments.
if the angles are too drastic as the coils heat up they will move and lose contact in spots

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just did up my kraken b4 I go in my storage
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Since the wick is a bit smaller dia then my megi im right at .7 ohms on 3/4 wrap.
 
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Just a thought....

Is it possible that - when you are done with your setup - you keep vaping with the same battery you did the setup with? If so, chances are your setup will not handle the full load of a fully charged battery. I always swap batteries as the last part of sorting hotspots.

My earlier points about 'angle' was poorly worded. Maybe this will be, too. I think was thinking of 'incline'. If you wrap your coils at a steep incline, they wraps will lose contact with the wick if you flatten them out when sorting hotspots or spacing.

Picture a spring. If squash it, the diameter increases slightly as the coils flatten. Strech it - coil angle increase and diameter decrease.

My setups are weird but they are working perfect for me now that I started using loosely rapped wicks (cinnawicks). I do the same set ups that I do in my genesis atomizers that I do in my RDAs. 12 Wraps of 26g wire all touching. There is literally no angle/incline of the wraps to speak of. When I was using solid wicks I had hell of time getting rid of the hot spots and the set up weren't stable. With the cinnawick it takes me less than a 30 seconds to get evenly glowing coils and the build is super stable...I never had to adjust them again. I am so impressed now with my genesis atomizers that my RDAs are gathering dust.

P.S. The type of set ups I do you need a lot of air flow. I drilled out all my genesis atomizers....Kraken both air holes 2.8mm, Origen V2 same 2.8mm, Rsst single air hole 3.2mm.
 
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