I have a did clone. The cov gen 1. When building the coil I ran a lighter under the wire to burn the excess oil. I set it up. No hot spots 2.3 ohm coil. I filled it up and metallic taste from hell. So I thought maybe you had to beak it In and vapes 4 ml through it and it has not gotten better at all. What is going on.
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heat the rolled wick 2 more times, with the quenching. maybe you need a little more ox.
Also, don't forget to juice-burn the wick 2 or 3 times to finish it off after heating it as stated by vapdivrr.
skip the juice burn unless you cant get rid of a hotspot. i usually notice this if i get a short or just a few coils glowing or hotspot
just saying, they dont "just taste bad" for no reason, it could be the wick is not working properly and is burning.
could be the material it is made out of also some use chrome plating, and you might be tasting this as well.
I would pull the juice out and go in a dark room and check the coil. you would be surprised at how often ther is a problem with the coil we cannot see under normal light, the coil should glow evenly and most/all of the coils should light up pretty much at the same time. i know uneven burning coils taste nasty to me.
could be the material it is made out of also some use chrome plating, and you might be tasting this as well.
I would pull the juice out and go in a dark room and check the coil. you would be surprised at how often ther is a problem with the coil we cannot see under normal light, the coil should glow evenly and most/all of the coils should light up pretty much at the same time. i know uneven burning coils taste nasty to me.
Having the same problem with mine. Coil burns pretty much evenly until its in the tank.
Then when the wick is soaked in juice in the tank there is a single hotspot from the coil leading to the positive post. But i guess thats normal right? Its not on the wick hence the kanthal wire gets hot? And i get that weird metallic taste with the flavour. Should i let it burn in more and see if its still there?
First time it happened i threw the wick away. Rolled a new mesh made sure this one was oxidized (did the whole process about 7-8 times - find it hard to believe its still not oxidized properly), and then coiled it (i did flame the coil too) and put it on did clone. Still getting the same problem now.
By the way, is that taste just something you won't like or is it actually dangerous? (vaping metallic fumes?
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On a side note my first attempt brought about a 1.6ohms set up. The second is 1.0 ohms
Then when the wick is soaked in juice in the tank there is a single hotspot from the coil leading to the positive post. But i guess thats normal right? Its not on the wick hence the kanthal wire gets hot? And i get that weird metallic taste with the flavour. Should i let it burn in more and see if its still there?
First time it happened i threw the wick away. Rolled a new mesh made sure this one was oxidized (did the whole process about 7-8 times - find it hard to believe its still not oxidized properly), and then coiled it (i did flame the coil too) and put it on did clone. Still getting the same problem now.
By the way, is that taste just something you won't like or is it actually dangerous? (vaping metallic fumes?
).On a side note my first attempt brought about a 1.6ohms set up. The second is 1.0 ohms
Is the wick touching any posts at the top or is it touching the bottom of the tank?
its just nasty taste, if it changes to a hotspot once full of juice take a toothpick or something and try moving the coils around and see if you can get vapor coming from the whole coil area. sometimes i actually have to start around the middle.
some of the problem is we poke and prod the coils on one side of the wick but they are still uneven on the other side of the wick
its worse now. after prodding and such now it just keeps shorting. the wick has bent inward and is touching the center post inside the tank.
im guessing thats a short circuit right? probably will have to make a new wick.
by the way does the silicon ring at the base of the nuts make any difference? i lost mine
im guessing thats a short circuit right? probably will have to make a new wick.
by the way does the silicon ring at the base of the nuts make any difference? i lost mine
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not sure how you could bend the wick, but you should be able to grab it and turn it and maybe get the coil off the shorting spot as well. if its shorting out then there is def a problem with the oxidation layer.
almost always the top leg getting hot first is wire tension problems. maybe you might want to try using the drillbit method to wrap your coils.
almost always the top leg getting hot first is wire tension problems. maybe you might want to try using the drillbit method to wrap your coils.
there is such a method? i'd love to know how, i spent an hour trying roll the wick into something that could fit the hole. even then its spiralled and bent by then. probably why the wick is bent inward when in the tank also.
Tight in the wickhole ... there is your short and the top leg probably hot spotting. You can test this by pulling the wick, temporarily insulating it by wrapping cotton from a Q-Tip where the wick touches the metal in the wickhole, making sure the wick does not touch the bottom of the tank or the tank's center post either. Some Genny's come with a plastic type of insulator just for this reason.
I don't oxidize my mesh, and I don't get dirty juices running back into the tank either which often in my opinion have a bit of a metallic taste, but then my tastes may be a bit funny.
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recoiled it and got it to work without shorting, now at 1.2 ohms. so its normal for genesis to taste abit funny? maybe im too used to my stardust ce5. i dont see any dirty liquid in the tank either, just that taste.
Ah, so many different ways, so many different practices ... everyone has their own preference and what works best for them ... and that's the neat thing about Gennys ... like Wendys, you can have it your own way. (Not the very best analogy ... lol)
I don't like oxidizing my mesh, and find ways around it, others like it that way though. Its probably by accident that I noticed that my juice was not turning that dark anymore after the tank was near empty when I postulated it must have something to do with the lack of oxidization ... but I'm not yet 100% sure on that, since other variables still exist.
Are you sure that its just a nasty taste? I'm pretty sure its fumes from the mesh. Because whenever I had a hot spot and fired my PV I would smell nasty metal fumes and I could see the coil literally burn through the mesh and create holes in it. I don't think that's very safe to vape IMHO. Also its the reason why I won't use mesh. Your setup might be perfect but hot spots can develop after a few min or from a hard knock and then you're inhaling those fumes unknowingly.
all i can say is, then you havent used a lot of steel mesh. any difference in heating instantly releases the bad taste and trust me you will not continue to vape it. when excessively heating the same short you are def melting the steel, but any mesh veteran will tell you thats usually doesnt happen as it is not pleasant and you will want to stop vaping and fix it asap. its not like a silica wick in a nova where you think "oh dry hit taste kinds burned" its full dead on nasty.
most of the problems with steel mesh can be canceled out with proper setup.
this has a lot to do with it, i do still notice some darkness with an aged wick but usually a rinsing of the crud in the top will stop it for a while.
i also advocate unoxidized. while it makes set up a little more demanding, i notice that the juice stays clean. the vapor tastes better, the wicking works better. and if done correctly the worries of shorts from touching the sides and bottom become a myth.
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I've read threads where people say "I vaped a tank and still have a metallic taste" plenty of times. And I used mesh for a while and don't believe its healthy. Just because my opinions different doesnt mean i'm inexperienced. Whether or not you continue to vape it you just inhaled stainless steel fumes. I think most people that start using gennies don't know how to set them up correctly and end up inhaling a decent amount tainted vapor. The fact that its even possible to inhale toxic fumes isn't good IMO.
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