mod battery question

[neil0215]

So although I am a new member, I am not new to vaping. I've been using VV batteries with Protanks and just want to get something a little bigger with more features. I've been looking at a few mods, but I honestly don't know if I should get a flat top battery or a button top. Not sure what the difference would be other than the obvious. I'm either going to go with a Vamo 5, or an Innokin product. Also, what's the best place online to order products? I've went through myvaporstore.com and thevaporroom.net, but some of the mods on this forum I've never even heard of. Not really interested in rebuldables yet, mainly because i'm lazy and like being able to just replace a coil, refill and go.

I've visited this forum many times and finally decided to join. any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
thanks

 

[Kalaniboi81]

Well for the batteries i would suggest a flat top simply because some mods have issues with the fit if it's a button top. Also if your in the market for one i would suggest a Sony VTC4 or 5. They are an 18650 30 amp flat top battery, and they kick ..... For mods i know that the look of a mechanical mod may be more appealing than a regulated mod, but if your thinking about sticking with a tank atty you most definitely want regulated power to keep it vaping on point. If you decide to go with a regulated mod i would suggest anyone that can get up to at least 20W so that you can get that good vapor production and flavor from your tank atty. If you decide to go with a mechanical mod check to see if they can hold a kick and battery, because a lot of them cannot. I'm not an avid online shopper for vape products I've been lucky enough to have brick and mortar stores that carry everything i need so hopefully you find something, and if so please share! VAPE ON!

 

[epicdoom]

welcome to answer your battery question your most often times better to buy the flattop battery it works is everything some button tops wont fit some mods like for instance the VTR I have can only accept an flattop non protected battery. most telescoping mods can use any battery button or flattop. For me I have all flattop batteries for my vaping gear I have button tops that can work in some gear I have, but I use those for flashlights now

 

[Ace90]

I started on a Ego Twist 1300 vv with a Protank mini 3 and love it. Ive also have the Vamo5 and tried out my friends Innokin. These are all great choices. I am a huge online shopper always looking for the best deals as i'm not one that can spend oddles of money on my E-cigg products. I am a regular shopper at Smoktek.com. I've found that they have reliable and newer products (30 day warranty which is great) and they have great prices that don't break the bank. Also I agree with Epic better to buy the flattop battery as it works with everything. Hope this helped

 

[Ryedan]

So although I am a new member, I am not new to vaping. I've been using VV batteries with Protanks and just want to get something a little bigger with more features. I've been looking at a few mods, but I honestly don't know if I should get a flat top battery or a button top. Not sure what the difference would be other than the obvious. I'm either going to go with a Vamo 5, or an Innokin product. Also, what's the best place online to order products? I've went through myvaporstore.com and thevaporroom.net, but some of the mods on this forum I've never even heard of. Not really interested in rebuldables yet, mainly because i'm lazy and like being able to just replace a coil, refill and go.

I've visited this forum many times and finally decided to join. any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
thanks

The difference between button and flat top is only the obvious physical thing. There is no difference in performance. Some mods do better with one of the other, but again, it's only a matter of fit. Most mechanical mods are just fine with flat tops. The Provari requires button top. I don't have a Vamo or Innokin, so I'll leave that for people who know about them.

It's best to buy batteries form a known good vendor that does not sell counterfeits. There are a lot of counterfeit AWs out there. RTD Vapor and Illumination Supply come to mind for me immediately. There are a bunch of others, but check them out here or on one of the flashlight forums like CPF (Candle Power Forum).

You want a IMR (not protected) or hybrid batteries. AW, Sony and Panasonic all have these.

 

[neil0215]

thanks for all the great replies. I may be dumb, but what is the difference between a mechanical mod a regulated?

 

[K_Tech]

thanks for all the great replies. I may be dumb, but what is the difference between a mechanical mod a regulated?

Not a dumb question. Hell, I didn't even know what "vaping" was until a short time before I started vaping.

A mechanical is just a battery holder (usually a metal tube) with a switch and a connector for your atomizer. Hit the button, the battery connects to the atomizer, and the voltage to your atomizer is whatever the battery is putting out.

A regulated mod allows you to control how much power goes to your atomizer by adjusting its output, and it keeps the same setting unless you change it until the battery needs recharged.

 

[AlwaysNaHaze]

z max mini with imr 18350 and kanger 2 got me through the quiting stage ! good luck with all your vaping ventures

 

[Kalaniboi81]

With a mechanical mod you get full unregulated power. Fully charged battery is about 4.1-4.2 volts so depending on your voltage drop your getting around 3.8 to 4.0 to the atty. Only down fall with this is since it's unregulated as your battery starts dropping off so does the quality of your vape. The weaker the battery the weaker the vape. With my build i only get about 2 hours of vape time on a fully charged Sony 18650 until it's done. With a regulated mod you get the same battery output from start to finish. So unlike your mech mod when your battery is almost dead your still getting a quality vape. They both have their pros and cons you just got to weigh the differences and make a decision that suits your needs the best. VAPE ON!

 

[PolarGoat]

most regulated devices have a battery that you cant replace. theres a few that do, like the firestone e-lvt. most regulated devices wont fire anything under 1.2 ohms as well. i started with an ego twist, then a regulated box mod, then a mech mod. for batteries, definitely go with a sony vtc 4 or 5.

 

[p7willm]

Some devices require a button top. Some regulated mods use it as a feature to stop you from inserting the battery backwards. They have an insulator that the top of the battery has to stick through.

 

[tj99959]

most regulated devices have a battery that you cant replace. theres a few that do, like the firestone e-lvt. most regulated devices wont fire anything under 1.2 ohms as well. i started with an ego twist, then a regulated box mod, then a mech mod. for batteries, definitely go with a sony vtc 4 or 5.

Ya need to get out more
You can replace the battery in everything from a Lava Tube to ZNA, and 100 different regulated PVs in between. So that simply isn't true.

The only thing that determines if a flat or button top will work best is whatever the mod manufacturer had in mind. The classic example of old was that a button top wouldn't fit in a Lava Tube, and a Provari won't fire on a flat top.

 

[Caridwen]

I'd purchase my first battery where I'm purchasing the device provided they sell good batteries. For example, I have three different sized 18350 batteries.

 

[neil0215]

I'd purchase my first battery where I'm purchasing the device provided they sell good batteries. For example, I have three different sized 18350 batteries.

now there's my problem. There isn't a store around where I live that sells anything other than a few tanks and standard batteries, so i'm stuck buying everything online. I've been considering a Vamo 5. Seems like it would be a good start. Not too expensive and decent features. But I only know of a couple good sites online to buy a mod, so any website recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Caridwen]

I don't own a VAMO V5 so I can't tell you 100% what batteries will work- I'm sure others can help though. I can't recommend suppliers.

I did find this thread-
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/504045-vamo-v5-batteries.html

And this-
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/355592-vamo-battery-thread.html

 

[K_Tech]

I don't own a VAMO V5 so I can't tell you 100% what batteries will work- I'm sure others can help though. I can't recommend suppliers.

I did find this thread-
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/504045-vamo-v5-batteries.html

And this-
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/355592-vamo-battery-thread.html

If its internal dimensions are the same as the V3, I can tell you that everything fits, from single flat or button top 18650's from several manufacturers (AW, Efest, Sony, Panasonic, LG, etc.) to stacked 18350's. Every battery I own has been in my V3 without issue.

 

[nerdlyvapist]

now there's my problem. There isn't a store around where I live that sells anything other than a few tanks and standard batteries, so i'm stuck buying everything online. I've been considering a Vamo 5. Seems like it would be a good start. Not too expensive and decent features. But I only know of a couple good sites online to buy a mod, so any website recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Actually i own a Vamo v3 and i find that the majority of flat top batteries do not work, at least the protected ones (they have the white plasticy washer on them) and had to cut them off for it to fire. I use only button top with my Vamo, and no issue

I got my vamo from fasttech, slow to ship, but cant beat the pricing (and mine came with 2 18650 batteries and a charger for under 50$)

 

[Ryedan]

Actually i own a Vamo v3 and i find that the majority of flat top batteries do not work, at least the protected ones (they have the white plasticy washer on them) and had to cut them off for it to fire. I use only button top with my Vamo, and no issue

I got my vamo from fasttech, slow to ship, but cant beat the pricing (and mine came with 2 18650 batteries and a charger for under 50$)

Welcome to ECF nerdlyvapist.

The vast majority of protected batteries use ICR chemistry. The protection pcb's make those cells longer. If the protection circuits fail they will burn when they vent. IMR and hybrid batteries don't burn.

That plastic washer is used on a lot of batteries to help isolate the positive post from the negative casing. Taking that off is not a safe practice and will make the battery easier to short.

Be careful nerdlyvapist. Modifying batteries is dangerous unless you know exactly what you're doing.

Vape safe