Mods that you don't have to remove battery to charge
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There are lots out there, started with the custom mod and now main stream mass production models. I just bought a MPV2 to see if it can be converted to a DNA30 device.
Out of curiosity, from one who is actually interested in getting an eVic, what's wrong with it that you don't want one? I've read somewhere that despite its solid looks, it's actually fairly fragile around the screen, and liable to come apart if you abuse it too much. Is that what worries you?
I wouldn't consider a mod that needs a separate charger either: USB ports are ubiquitous, and I'd rather plug my mods into that than having to carry a specialized charger everywhere. I've stopped buying small electronics that doesn't charge on USB a long time ago.
I have two eVics. I use a separate charger to charge.
While being able to charge from the usb port like a pass through device is handy it also leaves you tethered to your usb port of choice while it charges. It also takes longer to charge via the usb port.
I do keep a cable in my car to use the eVic like a pass through for long trips.
I keep my eVic in a pouch on a lanyard around my neck so I can't offer any opinion on how well it would survive a fall or abuse. My first eVic cost $78.99 so I try very hard not to abuse it. I have not used the second one yet, I bought it just to have a back up in case I ever break the first one.
While being able to charge from the usb port like a pass through device is handy it also leaves you tethered to your usb port of choice while it charges. It also takes longer to charge via the usb port.
I do keep a cable in my car to use the eVic like a pass through for long trips.
I keep my eVic in a pouch on a lanyard around my neck so I can't offer any opinion on how well it would survive a fall or abuse. My first eVic cost $78.99 so I try very hard not to abuse it. I have not used the second one yet, I bought it just to have a back up in case I ever break the first one.
So what are you going to do when your battery is dead and you can't just pop in a new one? That in and of itself is reason enough for me to never buy a mod with an internally wired battery.
The eVic takes a real beating on here, but it is not a bad device. The output signal from the eVic is really second only to a Provari, making it a really decent VV/VW device. It may be a 100Hz chip, but it's buffer really leads to a smooth output, less than .5 volt variance when charged, and when the battery is low the boost feature actually keeps it just about as flat as a Provari. It is a great way to get an understanding of how things work, from battery life, to reading how the voltage is affected by different heads when wattage matters to you (and contrary to what most will tell you, we tend to be interested in wattage, not voltage).
My job is harsh, in rough conditions. I have had no issues with my eVic. With that said, I treat everything I own as if it were priceless. I tend to keep things WAY beyond their expected lifespan. Most of my stuff still looks like brand new, and I still have owner's manuals from my first cordless phone from the mid 80s. The first run of eVics had glued controlled heads and it was fragile. The newer heads use 2 screws and posts and are better built.
I am happy with my eVic purchase. I am sure I will keep it for a long time. I am expending my collection right now, but I don't see my eVic being retired any time soon.
Current eVic owner here. I've used mine since August of last year and no qualms. 20k+ "puffs" on the device, so it's gotten some use.
Overall very solid, although pretty lightweight compared to even other VW/VV mods. I'd definitely recommend it as an "out-and-about" mod, something comfy to keep in your pocket. 18350 tubes definitely great for work.
Charging off the cable is time consuming but I love using it as a passthrough device at my pc.
Only TRUE complaint is the max wattage allowed is 11 watts. This keeps me pawing for my mech mods at home, but does great on the road. Also once it's got a bit of gunk on it from everyday use the little selector ring can get wobbley. I just give it a good wipedown with some Q-Tips and microfiber cloth and it miraculously seems to tighten right back up.
Overall very solid, although pretty lightweight compared to even other VW/VV mods. I'd definitely recommend it as an "out-and-about" mod, something comfy to keep in your pocket. 18350 tubes definitely great for work.
Charging off the cable is time consuming but I love using it as a passthrough device at my pc.
Only TRUE complaint is the max wattage allowed is 11 watts. This keeps me pawing for my mech mods at home, but does great on the road. Also once it's got a bit of gunk on it from everyday use the little selector ring can get wobbley. I just give it a good wipedown with some Q-Tips and microfiber cloth and it miraculously seems to tighten right back up.
No idea whether these are worthwhile, but the Vapeonly vPower regulated mod looks pretty interesting. Both models, 18650 and 18500,
use regular Li-Ion batteries, and can be recharged by hooking up the power adapter to the eGo/510 connector.
They're VV but not VW. I vaguely recall that they have a built-in oHm reader. I saw one at a vape shop, the their relatively small, for a regulated mod. Vapeonly vPower 18650 Express Mod Kit
I tried to find out more, but there's not a lot of info on the web, and no English-language reviews that I could find.
-- Glenn
use regular Li-Ion batteries, and can be recharged by hooking up the power adapter to the eGo/510 connector.
They're VV but not VW. I vaguely recall that they have a built-in oHm reader. I saw one at a vape shop, the their relatively small, for a regulated mod. Vapeonly vPower 18650 Express Mod Kit
I tried to find out more, but there's not a lot of info on the web, and no English-language reviews that I could find.
-- Glenn
I dunno, I guess I just find charging through a cord less of a hassle for me. I like my iTaste MVP and iTaste VV3 a lot because I can use my Android charger, which I have one in almost every room in the house as well as my car. I do not like having to carry batteries around and using a big bulky battery charger and putting the batteries in the device and taking them out everytime to charge. I'm sure it's no problem for most people, but for me, it is a hassle.
But with the Evic, a friend recently got into vaping and showed me her device, which was an Evic, to which I asked her why she got such an advanced device for someone who knows almost nothing about vaping. She said it was given to her by a customer at work, and she thought it was broken and asked me to look at it, in which I just clicked the fire button a few times to turn it on and saw that it wasn't broken, she just didn't know that you could do that to turn it on and off. She doesn't understand vaping at different watts/voltages and has a very leaky Protank 1 that was given to her with it. It's a really big device (too big for me) but I do like that it can charge with a cord.
But with the Evic, a friend recently got into vaping and showed me her device, which was an Evic, to which I asked her why she got such an advanced device for someone who knows almost nothing about vaping. She said it was given to her by a customer at work, and she thought it was broken and asked me to look at it, in which I just clicked the fire button a few times to turn it on and saw that it wasn't broken, she just didn't know that you could do that to turn it on and off. She doesn't understand vaping at different watts/voltages and has a very leaky Protank 1 that was given to her with it. It's a really big device (too big for me) but I do like that it can charge with a cord.
That is very confusing; at first it sounded like it only plugs in like a passthrough but shuts off to recharge;
then the next line seems to say it works in passthrough mode when you are i the car.
So does evic work as a passthrough or not?
What I'd like to have is where if you battery is dead and you take it out, you can plug in to usb and vape away.
For all the money you pay from these boxes, you might as well have some sort of hard bypass manual override option in case your battery dies.
For all the money you pay from these boxes, you might as well have some sort of hard bypass manual override option in case your battery dies.
Just my quick 
you might want to reconsider. I'm sure there are high quality mods out there with internal batteries.. But an internal battery is just adding a liability. If that battery becomes a bust (or simply just loses its juice over too many recharges) you can't really do so much about it as far as I know. It's very convenient to be able to carry a backup battery in your pocket for when your current one loses its power. I also considered finding a mod with an internal battery, I'm very glad I ended up going with one that doesn't though.
Just something to keep in mind!
you might want to reconsider. I'm sure there are high quality mods out there with internal batteries.. But an internal battery is just adding a liability. If that battery becomes a bust (or simply just loses its juice over too many recharges) you can't really do so much about it as far as I know. It's very convenient to be able to carry a backup battery in your pocket for when your current one loses its power. I also considered finding a mod with an internal battery, I'm very glad I ended up going with one that doesn't though.Just something to keep in mind!
Just my quick
Just something to keep in mind!
What is an internal battery?
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"Internal battery" means "disposable".
If the Evic is too big for you, just order an 18350 or 18500 tube for it. The 18350 tube makes it no longer than a 900 to 1000mah eGo battery which makes it very pocketable. I'm a guy, but I'm short, and I have small hands. I hate 18650 sized tube mods. I can do 18650 sized box mods, because they just don't feel long in my hands, but 18650 tube mods are just too long for me.
The Evic is not a TRUE passthrough. You can't take the battery out and vape from the head plugged into a wall USB port or your computer's USB port. It doesn't work like that. But you CAN vape from your evic while the battery is charging. This means that if you completely drain your battery to the point where it won't vape anymore, you can plug it in, wait 3-5 minutes, and you can take vapes from your Evic while it is charging the battery. This is convenient, especially in the car. But no, it is not a true passthrough head.
The Evic does best with low resistance coils. It only goes up to 5 volts, so a 1.5 to 2ohm coil is best. I love mine with a 1.4 ohm coil on any rebuildable atomizer. I have an 18500 tube for mine, which makes it much shorter than the 18650 tube. The Evic is manufactured by one of the most well-known e-cig companies in the industry. This basically means that you'll be able to buy replacement parts easily. If you drop your evic and the bottom cap cracks, you can order a new Evic bottom cap that night and have it in your mailbox It also means that the modders have a solid mod that they can work with, that they know won't go out of style, or production. This means that you can order aftermarket parts for the evic! You can buy a whole stainless steel body to plug your evic control head into, which effectively turns your Evic into a tank! A solid vaping machine, on par with the Provari's build quality. You can also find flat top caps for the evic which look great with rebuildable atomizers, clearomizer tanks, and genesis atomizers.
The Evic also has the ability to check your battery's voltage & to check the ohms of your atomizer which is great for rebuilders. Even if you roll your coil at too low a resistance, the evic will still check & display the resistance of your coil (even if it won't fire that coil) If you get the 18350 and 18500 tubes for your evic, you can check any battery you'd like. This basically means that you can check all of your batteries as you take them fresh off the charger for voltage drop. If they test any lower than 4.2 volts, you'll know that they are beginning their descent into being unusable. This is very valuable info to know so that you can plan to buy new bats when 1 tests bad.
The Evic also gives you the ability to program every second of your vape. You can make the 1st second vape at 5 volts, the 2nd second vape at 4 volts, the 3rd and 4th second vape at 4 volts, and so on and so on... This is beneficial to people using clearomizers with a particular head that is either not wicking well, or flooding.
The Evic also greets you with your name, can store your contact information, so if you do put down your Evic while trying to get that package of discounted toilette paper off the top shelf, & an employee of the shop picks it up after it has turned off... With any luck, they will naturally start pressing the fire button repeatedly, which will turn it on and display your name. Which will give you a better chance of getting your Evic back after having lost it.
Beat that!
The Evic is not a TRUE passthrough. You can't take the battery out and vape from the head plugged into a wall USB port or your computer's USB port. It doesn't work like that. But you CAN vape from your evic while the battery is charging. This means that if you completely drain your battery to the point where it won't vape anymore, you can plug it in, wait 3-5 minutes, and you can take vapes from your Evic while it is charging the battery. This is convenient, especially in the car. But no, it is not a true passthrough head.
The Evic does best with low resistance coils. It only goes up to 5 volts, so a 1.5 to 2ohm coil is best. I love mine with a 1.4 ohm coil on any rebuildable atomizer. I have an 18500 tube for mine, which makes it much shorter than the 18650 tube. The Evic is manufactured by one of the most well-known e-cig companies in the industry. This basically means that you'll be able to buy replacement parts easily. If you drop your evic and the bottom cap cracks, you can order a new Evic bottom cap that night and have it in your mailbox
It also means that the modders have a solid mod that they can work with, that they know won't go out of style, or production. This means that you can order aftermarket parts for the evic! You can buy a whole stainless steel body to plug your evic control head into, which effectively turns your Evic into a tank! A solid vaping machine, on par with the Provari's build quality. You can also find flat top caps for the evic which look great with rebuildable atomizers, clearomizer tanks, and genesis atomizers. The Evic also has the ability to check your battery's voltage & to check the ohms of your atomizer which is great for rebuilders. Even if you roll your coil at too low a resistance, the evic will still check & display the resistance of your coil (even if it won't fire that coil) If you get the 18350 and 18500 tubes for your evic, you can check any battery you'd like. This basically means that you can check all of your batteries as you take them fresh off the charger for voltage drop. If they test any lower than 4.2 volts, you'll know that they are beginning their descent into being unusable. This is very valuable info to know so that you can plan to buy new bats when 1 tests bad.
The Evic also gives you the ability to program every second of your vape. You can make the 1st second vape at 5 volts, the 2nd second vape at 4 volts, the 3rd and 4th second vape at 4 volts, and so on and so on...
This is beneficial to people using clearomizers with a particular head that is either not wicking well, or flooding. The Evic also greets you with your name, can store your contact information, so if you do put down your Evic while trying to get that package of discounted toilette paper off the top shelf, & an employee of the shop picks it up after it has turned off... With any luck, they will naturally start pressing the fire button repeatedly, which will turn it on and display your name. Which will give you a better chance of getting your Evic back after having lost it.
Beat that!
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Just something to keep in mind!
Considering that I paid less than $45.00 for my MVP 2, I don't see this as a liability at all. At 2600 mAh, I only need to charge my MVP 2 every two days. Even if I rated my charging cycles at 300 (which is extremely low, considering I rarely go below 3.8 volts when I recharge) you are looking at nearly 2 years of use.
A LiIon battery is a LiIon battery, they don't typically fail immediately. I have 2 MVP's that I rotate between and a vv3 in a pen cup at work. They are all inexpensive enough that when the battery does die eventually, I can replace it inexpensively.
The removable/non removable battery is the same debate that raged in the cell phone industry years earlier. Now it's hitting the vaping community.
High capacity mAh LiPO batteries like those in the MVP 2 should be able to provide years of service compared to 600 mAh ego-T's that needed recharging multiple times a day.
I find it kind of funny that the same people who complain about non-replaceable batteries in vape gear, think nothing of having them in their I-phone....go figure.
Most of our rechargeable batteries last 2 years before their charge life drops off, almost immediately. I've noted this happening a few times with batteries that I used exclusively, daily, for 2 years. Two of my Provari mini's batteries dropped off both at the same exact time. I used those 2 batteries every single day for 2 years exclusively. I barely ever used any other batteries. They were only 700mah 18350s. So my guess is that most batteries do drop after 2 years.
I wouldn't particularly want an internal battery mod for my ONLY mod. Just because I don't like internal batteries. I wouldn't buy an Iphone almost specifically because they have internal batteries. I have poked fun at iphone owners for this for years. I know when my HTC's battery bowed and became unchargable after having it for almost 2 years, I was damn happy I could order a new battery off of ebay for 5 dollars instead of buying a new 100 to 200 dollar smart phone.
With that said, the MVP2 is one of the nicest mods on the market for VV vaping. I wouldn't want it to be my only mod, since if the battery did die, I wouldn't be able to replace it, I'd have to replace the whole mod. But if I were to buy a new VV mod, it'd definitely be at the top of my list in competition with the Zmax V5 or, of course, the Provari if I had the money
I wouldn't particularly want an internal battery mod for my ONLY mod. Just because I don't like internal batteries. I wouldn't buy an Iphone almost specifically because they have internal batteries. I have poked fun at iphone owners for this for years. I know when my HTC's battery bowed and became unchargable after having it for almost 2 years, I was damn happy I could order a new battery off of ebay for 5 dollars instead of buying a new 100 to 200 dollar smart phone.
With that said, the MVP2 is one of the nicest mods on the market for VV vaping. I wouldn't want it to be my only mod, since if the battery did die, I wouldn't be able to replace it, I'd have to replace the whole mod. But if I were to buy a new VV mod, it'd definitely be at the top of my list in competition with the Zmax V5 or, of course, the Provari if I had the money
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